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[A Wild Snorlax]

No Snakes Alive wrote...

A Wild Snorlax wrote...

I like how no snakes alive backed down and retracted what he first said the moment someone actually tok up his challenge.

I'll play justicar by the way if you need one, and I'll probably outscore the batarian sentinel.

I didn't retract anything, but it's nice to see you're still butthurt days later lmao. In fact, I actually accepted the challenge immediately and he tried to back down from the fact that I said the Batarian could bring more to the table ON A TEAM OF CAPABLE BIOTICS

And speaking of, I'd prefer a team of CAPABLE Biotics, thank you very much, so since I consider you to be as garbage at this game as it gets, no thanks brah.

But hey, even if you DID outscore me because I detonated everything you threw out you'd be proving one of my points.

Backing down like i said. You said you could outscore a GI with a batarian, godless accepts the challenge and we're even providing you with justicars, now you're scared to show and use **** arguments like ''you're garbarge'' when you've never seen me play and I'm probably better than 98% of palyers on xbl.

[GodlessPaladin]

...So is Snakes not coming because he's trying to argue that Snorlax isn't a "capable" biotic, despite being a pretty competent player in my experience?

And then saying that *I* am backing down?

Because I'm waiting in a room ready for him with the two Asari Justicars he asked me to get together.  We all want to see you support your claim.  We just need you to, you know, actually show up.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 17 mai 2012 - 09:21 .

[A Wild Snorlax]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

...So is Snakes not coming because he's trying to argue that Snorlax isn't a "capable" biotic, despite being a pretty competent player in my experience?

We're online with your requested setup right now.

Are you coming snakes or were you just talking BS all along like I assumed?

[No Snakes Alive]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Anyways, Snorlax and Snakes, get online and we'll have our match, with two Justicars.

I should be able to later on tonight, but I'm not down to have sabotage on my team with no Quarians in sight if you catch my drift. So Snorlax is out because he's still holding a grudge over how bad I think he is.

I thought you said you didn't know any good Justicars? Get me some offensive bubbles up and some reave action going on and I'm very down for this. Not sure how we'd measure team contribution though. If the Justicars get to 75k on the strength of my detonations how exactly would you account for that? You've gotta remember my whole point was that a Batarian Sentinel could bring more to the table under the right conditions in the cooperative setting that is ME3's multiplayer. If you think running around spamming Geth Ifiltrator melees to end up with the highest score will disprove that, all I have to say is lol.

[landylan]

cmon, my batteries are dieing

[GodlessPaladin]

No Snakes Alive wrote...
I thought you said you didn't know any good Justicars?

  No, I said I couldn't pull Justicars out of my hat on a moment's notice.  Some time has passed since then.  In that time, you have repeatedly outright lied, and insulted a number of people for no particular reason, and still refuse to give out your gamertag, which would be necessary for us playing at any point, ever.  I have been nothing but courteous leading up to now, but I have only so much patience when you act so rudely in return.

You accused me of "twisting" things back when all I'd ever said was "I happen to be on Xbox.  GT:  OneWinged4ngel.  I would be really pleasantly surprised to see a genuinely effective BS that was more than just a second string Shockwave spam."

Then you accused me of "backing down" for saying "I'm afraid I can't pull competent Justicar-favoring friends out of my hat on a moment's notice.  Regardless, I'm willing to accept the terms of having two Asari Justicars on the team too.  Any volunteers to play that role?"

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 17 mai 2012 - 09:46 .

[landylan]

A capable Batarian Sentinel on a team of Justicar's can outscore a Geth Inflitrator with ease,.... pasted that.....

[No Snakes Alive]

Yo, are you ****ing kidding me? I'm at work right now...

Also, I'm not playing with the idiot who wants nothing more than to prove me wrong as my support in this alleged challenge. You guys are something else. I'll be on tonight to play.

[Maria Caliban]

Okay, snakes doesn't like snorlax.

Is there anyone on XBox who's good with a Justicar and is willing to hop on and join the game? Snakes, do you have anyone on your friend list who can join the team?

[A Wild Snorlax]

No Snakes Alive wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Anyways, Snorlax and Snakes, get online and we'll have our match, with two Justicars.

I should be able to later on tonight, but I'm not down to have sabotage on my team with no Quarians in sight if you catch my drift. So Snorlax is out because he's still holding a grudge over how bad I think he is.

I thought you said you didn't know any good Justicars? Get me some offensive bubbles up and some reave action going on and I'm very down for this. Not sure how we'd measure team contribution though. If the Justicars get to 75k on the strength of my detonations how exactly would you account for that? You've gotta remember my whole point was that a Batarian Sentinel could bring more to the table under the right conditions in the cooperative setting that is ME3's multiplayer. If you think running around spamming Geth Ifiltrator melees to end up with the highest score will disprove that, all I have to say is lol.

I'm holding a grudge because of some outlandish statement you made? Lol get over yourself. I don't know you so I have no reason to take anything you say to heart.

I would not sabotage you, I would outperform you though, but I'm guessing you're afraid of getting exposed as the bad kid you are.

[No Snakes Alive]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Okay, snakes doesn't like snorlax.

Is there anyone on XBox who's good with a Justicar and is willing to hop on and join the game? Snakes, do you have anyone on your friend list who can join the team?

Depends who's on but probably not. I usually play without a mic so I mostly do PUG's.

And again, to Snorlax, if I detonated all your explosions and shot your score up for you, wouldn't you only be proving MY point?

[GodlessPaladin]

No Snakes Alive wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Okay, snakes doesn't like snorlax.

Is there anyone on XBox who's good with a Justicar and is willing to hop on and join the game? Snakes, do you have anyone on your friend list who can join the team?

Depends who's on but probably not. I usually play without a mic so I mostly do PUG's.

And again, to Snorlax, if I detonated all your explosions and shot your score up for you, wouldn't you only be proving MY point?

No, because your statement was that you would easily outscore the Geth Infiltrator on a team of Justicars.  That is a very, very easy statement to render falsifiable as long as you are not flat out disingenuous.

[Maria Caliban]

How does a Batarian Soldier detonate a Reave anyway?

[GodlessPaladin]

Maria Caliban wrote...

How does a Batarian Soldier detonate a Reave anyway?

Batarian Sentinel.  And it has Shockwave.  The best case scenario for a BS, as I see it, is to act as a gimpy HS and be a second-string detonator.

Anyways, he's retconning his previous statements.

A capable Batarian Sentinel on a team of Justicar's can outscore a Geth
Inflitrator with ease, and assist the team to a much greater extent.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 17 mai 2012 - 09:43 .

[Arkley]

No Snakes Alive wrote...

Various useless nonsense

Modifié par Arkley, 17 mai 2012 - 09:44 .

[R0Gun13]

No Snakes Alive wrote...

R0Gun13 wrote...

No Snakes Alive wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

No Snakes Alive wrote...

I'm super down to show up. You got two Justicar friends to bring with you?

  I'm afraid I can't pull competent Justicar-favoring friends out of my hat on a moment's notice.   Then again, I don't remember that being a part of the challenge...

Perhaps you should check what I wrote again then and not twist it into some 1 vs. 1 high-score challenge?

I basically suggested that a Batarian Sentinel can bring more to the table than an Infiltrator, with the right team, and then offered to prove that claim to you on XBL. I'm still very willing to.

You kinda did say that... [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]

No Snakes Alive wrote...

They already are balanced out. You're confusing quality with ease of use. It's easier to kick ass with an Infiltrator but I guarantee I'll kick at least as much with anything from a Human Soldier to a Krogan Sentinel.

No Snakes Alive wrote...

A capable Batarian Sentinel on a team of Justicar's can outscore a Geth Inflitrator with ease, and assist the team to a much greater extent. In most players' hands, a Geth infiltrator is someone that requires revival every two seconds.

The point of this game is to survive and kill all your enemies, and sure some classes excel at either or both of those more than others but any class can get it done extremely well. If you're on xbox, I'll take my Batarian Sentinel up against your Geth Infiltrator any day to prove it. 

  

Does everyone lack basic reading comprehension skills here or what?

So what exactly was I referring to when I said I'd put my Batarian Sentinel up against his Infiltratot to prove it. To prove what? That's right, reread wht you just quoted and follow along: "A capable Batarian Sentinel ****on a team of Justicar's**** can outscore a Geth Inflitrator with ease, and assist the team to a much greater extent" and "any class can get it done extremely well."

Am I missing something here or are you?

 


How do I lack basic reading comprehension, my post was 99% your quotes.

Modifié par R0Gun13, 17 mai 2012 - 09:51 .

[FataliTensei]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

No Snakes Alive wrote...

I'm super down to show up. You got two Justicar friends to bring with you?

  I'm afraid I can't pull competent Justicar-favoring friends out of my hat on a moment's notice.   Then again, I don't remember that being a part of the challenge...

Regardless, I'm willing to accept the terms of having two Asari Justicars on the team too.  Any volunteers to play that role?

No Snakes Alive wrote...
And BTW, before this turns into some
sort of pseudo-deathmatch, I didn't issue it as a challenge to show you
up. I offered to show you Batarian Sentinels are incredibly effective
and supportive on the right team, often times even more so than an
Infiltrator is. So people need to calm down with the pay-per-view fight
attitudes lol.

I know.  I didn't take it otherwise.  Like I said, I would be happy to see the Batarian Sentinel prove to be something other than a second string Shockwave spammer.  I am, however, skeptical.

I'm a good Justicar if you need one, tag: ArcaneHunter13

[A Wild Snorlax]

No Snakes Alive wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Okay, snakes doesn't like snorlax.

Is there anyone on XBox who's good with a Justicar and is willing to hop on and join the game? Snakes, do you have anyone on your friend list who can join the team?

Depends who's on but probably not. I usually play without a mic so I mostly do PUG's.

And again, to Snorlax, if I detonated all your explosions and shot your score up for you, wouldn't you only be proving MY point?

I would only play a justicar because that was your demand. If you let me play a drell your contribution would be even less significant.

also I like how you went from saying:

A capable Batarian Sentinel on a team of Justicar's can outscore a Geth Inflitrator with ease, and assist the team to a much greater extent. In most players' hands, a Geth infiltrator is someone that requires revival every two seconds.

The point of this game is to survive and kill all your enemies, and sure some classes excel at either or both of those more than others but any class can get it done extremely well. If you're on xbox, I'll take my Batarian Sentinel up against your Geth Infiltrator any day to prove it.  

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Not sure how we'd measure team contribution though. If the Justicars get to 75k on the strength of my detonations how exactly would you account for that 

......Fail.

Modifié par A Wild Snorlax, 17 mai 2012 - 09:48 .

[GodlessPaladin]

FataliTensei wrote...

I'm a good Justicar if you need one, tag: ArcaneHunter13

Added and invited.  Get in here so we can play until Snakes gets back from work :-p

[FataliTensei]

That was fast O_O

[No Snakes Alive]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

No Snakes Alive wrote...
I thought you said you didn't know any good Justicars?

  No, I said I couldn't pull Justicars out of my hat on a moment's notice.  Some time has passed since then.  In that time, you have repeatedly outright lied, and insulted a number of people for no particular reason, and still refuse to give out your gamertag, which would be necessary for us playing at any point, ever.  I have been nothing but courteous leading up to now, but I have only so much patience when you act so rudely in return.

You accused me of "twisting" things back when all I'd ever said was "I happen to be on Xbox.  GT:  OneWinged4ngel.  I would be really
pleasantly surprised to see a genuinely effective BS that was more than
just a second string Shockwave spam."

Then you accused me of "backing down" for saying "I'm afraid I can't pull competent Justicar-favoring friends out of my
hat on a moment's notice.  Regardless, I'm willing to accept the terms of having two Asari Justicars on the team too.  Any volunteers to play that role?"

Then you said that I claimed to not know any good Justicars, even though that's clearly not what my post said.

Lol talk about twisting what I'm saying (and outright lying). All you've done this entire time is take everything I've said out of context. How does me offering to prove what a Batarian Sentinel is capable of on a team of Justicars against a Geth Infiltrator turn into this? Hell I didn't even mean on the same team at the same time initially since your Geth Infiltrator ISN'T an Asari Justicar and is therefore gimping my contributions. I initially meant that my Batarian Sentinel with three Asari could potentially outperform your Geth Infiltrator on that same team, but when you took it as "zOMG someone challenged my broken god tier build! Must outscore!" I didn't even back down. I said sure, I'm super down.

And it was all in good fun, too, but this? Now this is getting pathetic. How do you expect me to respond when I'm being antagonized by your little cronies? Your buddy Snorlax accused me of backing down so I suggested that I openly accepted the challenge initially, and YOU were the one questioning the stipulation of it, which is exactly the sort of thing that got me accused of backing down. I also QUESTIONED that you earlier stated something about not being able to bring any good Asari when I asked you to.

So get antagonistic if you'd like. The only people I insulted are those who tried to claim I backed down from questioning how we're to measure team contribution, or saying "I'm super down. Have any good Justicars you can bring?" or so on and so forth.

You realize you turned a good-natured attempt to show you that an under-utilized class can be as good as everyone's favorite broken tier infiltrator under the right conditions into some sad little fight?

Modifié par No Snakes Alive, 17 mai 2012 - 10:12 .

[GodlessPaladin]

No Snakes Alive wrote...How does me offering to prove what a Batarian Sentinel is capable of on a team of Justicars against a Geth Infiltrator turn into this?

Your own behavior might have had something to do with it.  I still would really, honestly love to see you prove your point.  I am baffled by the ugliness that has resulted from extending you a friendly invite to play a few games with you and see the truth of your statements.

I didn't even back down. I said sure, I'm super down.

I didn't say you did.

How do you expect me to respond when I'm being antagonized by your little cronies?

 "Cronies?"  Out of all the people "antagonizing" you I only know one, and only as an acquaintance I played a coupla games with.  And IIRC he only "antagonized" you by responding to you claiming that he wanted to "sabotage" you.

I also QUESTIONED that you earlier dated something about not being able to bring any good Asari when I asked you to.

No, you actually said that I "tried to back down."  The quote is right there for everyone to see.

The only people I insulted are those who tried to claim I backed down

You insulted my integrity by claiming I was "twisting your words" back when the only bloody thing I had said to you was, and I quote, "I happen to be on Xbox.  GT:  OneWinged4ngel.  I would be really pleasantly surprised to see a genuinely effective BS that was more than just a second string Shockwave spam."

Yeah, totally twisting your words there. 

Moreover, you claimed that I wanted to back down from allowing you to make your point with Justicars on the team, as I was waiting in a room for you with the two Asari Justicars you had requested.  

You realize you turned a good-natured attempt to show you that an under-utilized class can be as good as everyone's favorite broken tier infiltrator under the right conditions into some sad little fight?

So why are you having a sad little fight?  All I wanted to do is play and see if I could learn any new tricks for the Batarian Sentinel.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 17 mai 2012 - 10:41 .

[Dream-Maker]

Infiltrators are arguably very strong for single target DPS, survivability and scoring (if you think that's important). To be honest they're probably one of the greatest characters on their own, however this is a team game. One infiltrator in a team can be useful if he revives people, takes care of objectives, and eliminates dangerous targets on the field to help his teammates.

However most people don't play this ideal of team infiltrator and just concentrate on headshooting everything regardless what danger they represent for the rest of the team. In this case they just turn into invisible scoring machines who let the rest of the team take the bulk of the enemy assault while they get the fun part.

By the way 2 or more infiltrators in a team is usually a recipe for disaster, at least that's what I experienced most of the time...

I'm certain infiltrators are not as OP as everyone thinks, most people are playing the easy mode selfish kind of infiltrator that I mentioned above and probably feel like godly as such. But IMO it's not the most effective way to play it in a team, you have to pick your targets, use your cloacking to support your team when you can and learn not to cloack all the time to relieve pressure on your team when it's necessary.

[Yajuu Omoi]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

The answer is SIMPLE find someone who can use the class effectivly, i've been out scored by MANY a player while i'm a Sal. Infil on BRONZE...i was lvl 20, against a lvl 19 Krogan Sent. we were neck and neck for all 10 rounds, till extraction i had the range to get the kills.

When enemies have small HP pools, no shield gate, and little damage reduction on armor, other classes can out score an infiltrator just by being aggressive.

Either i worded it wrong or you're missing the point.
A SI can one shot most EVERYTHING on bronze cept "boss" enemies. not many other classes can.
The point is that even with such a large advantage, the KS still kept up with me, and WASN'T melee spaming either.
My point is that if someone utilizes a class to its extent then they can easily out score anyone else who isn't.
The fact that infiltrators are such simple use characters means that its easier to use them to their highest ability. (as long as you can aim a sniper or have a good shoty)

[Yajuu Omoi]

Dream-Maker wrote...

Infiltrators are arguably very strong for single target DPS, survivability and scoring (if you think that's important). To be honest they're probably one of the greatest characters on their own, however this is a team game. One infiltrator in a team can be useful if he revives people, takes care of objectives, and eliminates dangerous targets on the field to help his teammates.

However most people don't play this ideal of team infiltrator and just concentrate on headshooting everything regardless what danger they represent for the rest of the team. In this case they just turn into invisible scoring machines who let the rest of the team take the bulk of the enemy assault while they get the fun part.

By the way 2 or more infiltrators in a team is usually a recipe for disaster, at least that's what I experienced most of the time...

I'm certain infiltrators are not as OP as everyone thinks, most people are playing the easy mode selfish kind of infiltrator that I mentioned above and probably feel like godly as such. But IMO it's not the most effective way to play it in a team, you have to pick your targets, use your cloacking to support your team when you can and learn not to cloack all the time to relieve pressure on your team when it's necessary.

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