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[Jadebaby]

Gexora wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

It's okay OP, my Shepard chose synthesis too... I did a fanfic playthrough where my Shepard gets indoctrinated at the end.

Quick off-topic question since you are obviously not here for a discussion - why do most pro-IT people have Liara avatars? 

Because her face best conveys how I've felt since finishing Mass Effect 3. Whilst still looking good I might add.

[Taboo]

And my avatar signifies something as well.

LOL.

[Jadebaby]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Not sure what you mean. I didn't intend to offend anyone. But you must admit that comic books' usual treatment of science has always been somewhat cavalier. And the change between ME1 and ME2, when Mac Walters took over, is very noticeable in that regard.

This is about the first time i've agreed with you on something, if only that change was for the better......

[Gexora]

Taboo-XX wrote...

And my avatar signifies something as well.

LOL.

Please share the wisdom

[Jadebaby]

Taboo-XX wrote...

And my avatar signifies something as well.

LOL.

It shows that your passionate. Even if someone cut off your head you would still be running around the room frantically to Pink Floyd.
While your head, lying on the floor, suddenly - and very grotesquely - spurts "Synthesis is bad".

[Taboo]

I wouldn't take as much issue with Synthesis had Mac Walters not decided to muck around with logic. I still wouldn't choose it but I wouldn't have to point many finger at the people who support Synthesis because they believe it removes diversity.

THAT disgusts me. Ieldra's version does not. I WISH HE WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT.

[ghost9191]

well if synthesis is so good then why continue past the first game, just use your head cannon, spare saren and let the reapers win, would've saved a lot of time and have the same "pinnacle of evolution" ending

just random 2 cents

Modifié par ghost9191, 06 juin 2012 - 07:00 .

[Jadebaby]

ghost9191 wrote...

well if synthesis is so good then why continue past the first game, just use your head cannon, spare saren and let the reapers win, would've saved a lot of time and have the same "pinnacle of evolution" ending

just random 2 cents

You know what the positive thing about this is?

You still get your Red, Green, Blue ending.... And without the 50-100 extra hours of gameplay...

[Foxhound2121]

But if you choose Synthesis, how do you think the Amish are going to feel when they wake up the next morning? Such a jerk.

[Gexora]

ghost9191 wrote...

well if synthesis is so good then why continue past the first game, just use your head cannon, spare saren and let the reapers win, would've saved a lot of time and have the same "pinnacle of evolution" ending

just random 2 cents

Seriously, people, either read the OP or don't comment at all. Because you like fools when you post the argument defeated in the the very first post. 

Taboo-XX wrote...

I wouldn't take as much issue with Synthesis had Mac Walters not decided to muck around with logic. I still wouldn't choose it but I wouldn't have to point many finger at the people who support Synthesis because they believe it removes diversity.

THAT disgusts me. Ieldra's version does not. I WISH HE WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT.

You just used words "Mac Walters" and "logic" in one sentecne. That's... weird, man

Also I believe I cannot understand the bolded part. a typo, perhaps?

[Taboo]

From what I remember you aren't a native English speaker.

How can I phrase this?

Their version of Synthesis makes everyone the same. There are no more blue eyes or people with ADHD. People are no longer unique. That makes me very frustrated.

[Gexora]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

well if synthesis is so good then why continue past the first game, just use your head cannon, spare saren and let the reapers win, would've saved a lot of time and have the same "pinnacle of evolution" ending

just random 2 cents

You know what the positive thing about this is?

You still get your Red, Green, Blue ending.... And without the 50-100 extra hours of gameplay...
*snip*

MIND=BLOWN
I haven't been so shocked since I have heard "starchild" song
It all makes sense now

[Gexora]

Taboo-XX wrote...

From what I remember you aren't a native English speaker.

How can I phrase this?

Their version of Synthesis makes everyone the same. There are no more blue eyes or people with ADHD. People are no longer unique. That makes me very frustrated.

Can you please reread your post? 
Because the phrase I misunderstood looks like there are actually people who support synthesis BECAUSE it possibly removes diversity (which it doesn't, BTW ), while now you sound like you are just angry at the possibility itself
also I am sorry that my english sucks so much. I used to be quite good, but I haven't had much in the way of practice for years now

[Ieldra]

@Taboo:
There are people who support Synthesis because it removes diversity in their eyes? Ugh. That's unpleasant. Why haven't I run into those yet?

[Gexora]

Foxhound2121 wrote...
But if you choose Synthesis, how do you think the Amish are going to feel when they wake up the next morning? Such a jerk.

Some of the more radical groups of the Amish would probably burn me on sight so I am pretty cool with upsetting them

[Gexora]

Ieldra2 wrote...

@Taboo:
There are people who support Synthesis because it removes diversity in their eyes? Ugh. That's unpleasant. Why haven't I run into those yet?

SEE IT'S NOT JUST ME
Also Ieldra I hope you have seen my reply to you concerning comic books retcons. Just so we could be clear on that

[Ieldra]

No problem, Gexora. I just misunderstood what was going on.

[MisterJB]

ghost9191 wrote...

well if synthesis is so good then why continue past the first game, just use your head cannon, spare saren and let the reapers win, would've saved a lot of time and have the same "pinnacle of evolution" ending

just random 2 cents

Is it truly possible that people honestly believe that this


is the same as this?



Truly? Why?
Because it has a similar ideology? Ensure the survival of organics and achieve the "pinnacle of evolution"?
The results are quite different. Should we not judge the merits of the endings based on that?

I've seen valid reasons to dislike this ending such as the fact that it is a forced change but this comparison between Saren and Synthesis is nonsensical.

[Gexora]

MisterJB wrote...
*snip*.

You know
That was powerful
I have done my best to disrupt that ridiculous "choosing Synthesis means doing what Saren wanted' claim, but from now one I will just refer people to this thread
AND tell them how stupid it is, of course

[Gexora]

Gexora wrote...

MisterJB wrote...
*snip*.

You know
That was powerful
I have done my best to disrupt that ridiculous "choosing Synthesis means doing what Saren wanted' claim, but from now one I will just refer people to this thread
AND tell them how stupid it is, of course

Although given that some of those people use huskpictures as the means of anti-synthesis propaganda, I should not get my hopes up

[Sisterofshane]

Gexora wrote...

Gexora wrote...

MisterJB wrote...
*snip*.

You know
That was powerful
I have done my best to disrupt that ridiculous "choosing Synthesis means doing what Saren wanted' claim, but from now one I will just refer people to this thread
AND tell them how stupid it is, of course

Although given that some of those people use huskpictures as the means of anti-synthesis propaganda, I should not get my hopes up

One problem with that, though, is that the process of becoming a Reaper is not what Saren was pushing.
He viewed HIMSELF as the pinnacle of evolution, he was "synthesised".
So, no.  Becoming a Reaper is not the same thing as Synthesis.

[MisterJB]

Sisterofshane wrote...
One problem with that, though, is that the process of becoming a Reaper is not what Saren was pushing.
He viewed HIMSELF as the pinnacle of evolution, he was "synthesised".
So, no.  Becoming a Reaper is not the same thing as Synthesis.

But Saren was fooled/indocrinated by Sovereign to believe organics would achieve Synthesis rather than simply become a Reaper. We know better so people should stop suggesting the supporters of Synthesis to just let Saren win.

[Sisterofshane]

MisterJB wrote...

Sisterofshane wrote...
One problem with that, though, is that the process of becoming a Reaper is not what Saren was pushing.
He viewed HIMSELF as the pinnacle of evolution, he was "synthesised".
So, no.  Becoming a Reaper is not the same thing as Synthesis.

But Saren was fooled/indocrinated by Sovereign to believe organics would achieve Synthesis rather than simply become a Reaper. We know better so people should stop suggesting the supporters of Synthesis to just let Saren win.

And what I'm reading here is that Saren promoted Synthesis, and it is originally a Reaper idea.  You're not making the case for synthesis being the best option.

[mauro2222]

Reaper plan =/= synthesis.

Regardless of that, synthesis is still awful.

[Gexora]

Sisterofshane wrote...

Gexora wrote...

Gexora wrote...

MisterJB wrote...
*snip*.

You know
That was powerful
I have done my best to disrupt that ridiculous "choosing Synthesis means doing what Saren wanted' claim, but from now one I will just refer people to this thread
AND tell them how stupid it is, of course

Although given that some of those people use huskpictures as the means of anti-synthesis propaganda, I should not get my hopes up

One problem with that, though, is that the process of becoming a Reaper is not what Saren was pushing.
He viewed HIMSELF as the pinnacle of evolution, he was "synthesised".
So, no.  Becoming a Reaper is not the same thing as Synthesis.

Which once again showing up with a pic of a banshee and capslocking "Destroy is an only option" is not a valid argument
However, the main idea behind Saren's actions was not that synth/organic hybrid is the pinnacle of evolution (those are nonsensical words, by the way), but that we should submit to the reapers and let them upgrade us to their liking and serve them. Basically, Saren wanted us to become Collectors 2.0 if it meant survival (well, not wanted, exactly, more like brainwashed into it)