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ME3 Ending Report - Get your copies here!!!!!
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#126
Posté 19 mai 2012 - 07:32
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Quick bounce for folks who might not have caught this yet.
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#128
Posté 19 mai 2012 - 10:37
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..and one more bounce for a new day! Remember we're happy to take on board any comments.
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#131
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 04:20
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Napier93 wrote...
Very well done
Many thanks!
Also - if anyone wants hard copies we can do that too. Three font colours: red, green... you know the drill.
#132
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 04:24
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OP, I'm writing my senior thesis for college about the Retake Mass Effect Movement and how it's been treated in the media.
Would you mind if I referenced this? This would give me amazing insight as to the mind of the Mass Effect consumer before any qualitative analysis that I need to conduct.
Would you mind if I referenced this? This would give me amazing insight as to the mind of the Mass Effect consumer before any qualitative analysis that I need to conduct.
#134
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 09:09
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WhitW1ings - many thanks!
Not a problem - it's a public document, so stricktly speaking you don't HAVE to ask to use it as a reference, but I really appreciate that you did! Just cite as MikeC99 and Ofish, unpub.
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wantedman dan wrote...
OP, I'm writing my senior thesis for college about the Retake Mass Effect Movement and how it's been treated in the media.
Would you mind if I referenced this? This would give me amazing insight as to the mind of the Mass Effect consumer before any qualitative analysis that I need to conduct.
Not a problem - it's a public document, so stricktly speaking you don't HAVE to ask to use it as a reference, but I really appreciate that you did! Just cite as MikeC99 and Ofish, unpub.
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 09:30
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You sir, are a scholar and a gentleman!!
Well done with this and I hope the devs take the time to read it and, if not apply the information to the direction of the EC, learn from it for future releases.
It really is a wonderful effort!
Well done with this and I hope the devs take the time to read it and, if not apply the information to the direction of the EC, learn from it for future releases.
It really is a wonderful effort!
#136
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 09:45
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MrMcDoll wrote...
You sir, are a scholar and a gentleman!!
Well done with this and I hope the devs take the time to read it and, if not apply the information to the direction of the EC, learn from it for future releases.
It really is a wonderful effort!
And flattery, sir, will get you everywhere!
Two man effort - Ofish kicked this whole thing off by himself by setting up the first survey. I only answered his online plea for someone to advise on some stats analyses. The rest, as they say, is history.
I think your point re future releases is probably correct: realistically thats where the gains stand to be made.
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 02:42
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For what its worth... thanky you friend.MikeC99 wrote...
Hi all,
Took a bit longer to wrap it all up, but it's done. The Final Report for the ME3 Ending Consensus surveys is out. You can get pdf or png (image) copies as per below:
Final Report pdf: http://www.mediafire...jc5h24r2xm37rot (Please note new link - revised version; also revised via link in signature below. Nothing major.)
Final Report png files: http://imgur.com/a/Z8Lxb (The unrevised version - will update shortly)
Separate post on BSN with main body of report: http://social.biowar.../index/12128630
Electronic copy is with Chris Priestley now and he's undertaken to read it and hand it on to the team.
Ofish and I have been stressed at times over this, but in the end we're both happy with the end product. Thanks to everyone who participated. We're more than happy to take any feedback - but as for lessons for the 'next' survey ... no, I think not. We're also happy to provide the actual results as a csv file - if anyone's crazy enough to want us to!
OK - there is a tall glass of Guinness awaiting me! Now there's an ending I can take!
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 03:15
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That's amazing.
If I could give all the internets in the world, I would.
If I could give all the internets in the world, I would.
#143
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 03:32
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Interesting read, hopefully one of the more risk-taking mods will stickie this...
#144
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 08:49
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Many thanks all - much appreciate the support!
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#145
Posté 21 mai 2012 - 01:24
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I just hope bioware isnt too stubborn about this and they actually READ this and not "skim" it.MikeC99 wrote...
Many thanks all - much appreciate the support!
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#146
Posté 21 mai 2012 - 05:50
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*bump*
I checked how many times the results have been viewed on Imgur and it's already up to 33,523!
I checked how many times the results have been viewed on Imgur and it's already up to 33,523!
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#147
Posté 21 mai 2012 - 06:09
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That was very interesting. Props for putting so much work into it.
#148
Posté 21 mai 2012 - 06:14
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"A Final Note From The Authors to Bioware
Why should we care so much about the ending? Ostensibly the answers are: time and money. Players invest their time and money in games to gain an enjoyable, and they hope, worthwhile experience. But that’s not what the reactions are all about, or even arguably about at all. The reaction is based on a sense of betrayal; rightly or wrongly, this perception exists in a significant portion of the ME fanbase.
Fan reaction can be summed up as saying: We believe in the ME universe. We believe in Shepard's story. We believe in you. Right up to the point of disbelief. The ending. This sense of betrayal occurs at two levels: the personal, in‐game level; and the belief of being part of something significant beyond the immediate ‘game world’.
At a personal level, any narrative that is not rooted firmly in mundane life requires the suspension of disbelief by the participant: whether they are reading, watching, or playing. Lose that and you have lost your audience. Completely. The current ending shatters this suspension of disbelief. The higher you fly the further you fall.
At one time movies were considered a gimmick, it was widely believed that they could never reach the narrative heights that a novel could. Fast forward 100 years and video games are held in a similar regard to early cinema. Years from now the mass effect series may be seen as a turning point when both developers and fans both aspired for something more, something significant. Mass Effect may only be a game, but at one time Citizen Kane was just a movie. As fans, our issues with the narrative are not automatically less relevant due to the fact that we are talking about a video game; it is as relevant as if we were discussing any other medium.
We believe that Bioware are (or were until the current ending) on the cusp of defining a watershed moment; the one when 'games' seriously cross into the arena of 'novel', and 'movie', where well crafted serious narrative is melded with interactive entertainment into something both enjoyable and meaningful for human experience. Into art.
Sounds grandiose? Not at all. Great writing and screen play scripting does that. No single work of craft or art is flawless, and no‐one would claim that of the ME games, but despite the flaws, great works take hold of you emotionally and make you think – and bring you squarely to face what it is to be human.
At some point this watershed will be crossed, video games will be talked about in the same breath as great books, great movies. Make no mistake, It will happen and looking back, Bioware may regret letting the opportunity to lead slip away. This was – and still could be – a clear opportunity to make that definitive play here, and now. We believe that is a choice worth taking.
Mass Effect"
I hope that Casey has read this.
Why should we care so much about the ending? Ostensibly the answers are: time and money. Players invest their time and money in games to gain an enjoyable, and they hope, worthwhile experience. But that’s not what the reactions are all about, or even arguably about at all. The reaction is based on a sense of betrayal; rightly or wrongly, this perception exists in a significant portion of the ME fanbase.
Fan reaction can be summed up as saying: We believe in the ME universe. We believe in Shepard's story. We believe in you. Right up to the point of disbelief. The ending. This sense of betrayal occurs at two levels: the personal, in‐game level; and the belief of being part of something significant beyond the immediate ‘game world’.
At a personal level, any narrative that is not rooted firmly in mundane life requires the suspension of disbelief by the participant: whether they are reading, watching, or playing. Lose that and you have lost your audience. Completely. The current ending shatters this suspension of disbelief. The higher you fly the further you fall.
At one time movies were considered a gimmick, it was widely believed that they could never reach the narrative heights that a novel could. Fast forward 100 years and video games are held in a similar regard to early cinema. Years from now the mass effect series may be seen as a turning point when both developers and fans both aspired for something more, something significant. Mass Effect may only be a game, but at one time Citizen Kane was just a movie. As fans, our issues with the narrative are not automatically less relevant due to the fact that we are talking about a video game; it is as relevant as if we were discussing any other medium.
We believe that Bioware are (or were until the current ending) on the cusp of defining a watershed moment; the one when 'games' seriously cross into the arena of 'novel', and 'movie', where well crafted serious narrative is melded with interactive entertainment into something both enjoyable and meaningful for human experience. Into art.
Sounds grandiose? Not at all. Great writing and screen play scripting does that. No single work of craft or art is flawless, and no‐one would claim that of the ME games, but despite the flaws, great works take hold of you emotionally and make you think – and bring you squarely to face what it is to be human.
At some point this watershed will be crossed, video games will be talked about in the same breath as great books, great movies. Make no mistake, It will happen and looking back, Bioware may regret letting the opportunity to lead slip away. This was – and still could be – a clear opportunity to make that definitive play here, and now. We believe that is a choice worth taking.
Mass Effect"
I hope that Casey has read this.
#149
Posté 21 mai 2012 - 07:28
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Many thanks all - we really appreciate the support!
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#150
Posté 21 mai 2012 - 07:38
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Best case scenario they might take at least some of the information into consideration. Worst case scenario they're too far ahead into the dev. Either way good job.
