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[FatalX7.0]

That was the hardest facepalm I've ever done.

*leaves*

[OdanUrr]

dreman9999 wrote...

So no, I have no reason to trust the star child...If you do, your using flawed judgement.

If you have no reason to trust the Catalyst, if you think he's lying through his teeth, what makes you think Destroy is the "good" option? Why aren't they all simply bad options?

[Ageless Face]

dreman9999 wrote...




1. Please us some occam's razorr. We never seen Anderson implanted with any tech. He's pure organic...But for the entirity of ME3 he's on earth and has lotsof contact with reapers and reaper forces as he commands armies to fight them....It's very clear that it's indoctrination.
2. Yes, You are in denial. Untill you think of the flaws of yourc hoice, you in denial. I'm not even arguing IT with this. And even then I still see the flaw of control and Synthesis to choose if the ending is literal. If you can't see the flaws of the choice, you in denial. The entire games showed how those choices are flawed.

1. So now eveybody are indoctrinated! How nice to see that everything is making sense! Becasue there is NO way TIM is just rich and powerfull enough to create enough advanced tech to control people. Or rebuilding the dead. No, we need everything to make sense to the IT.  <_<

2. I gave you more than enough times statements that I see my choice's flaws, and the other two choices's good sides. The fact that you are ignoring them are your problem, not mine. 

Modifié par HagarIshay, 19 mai 2012 - 02:39 .

[dreman9999]

OdanUrr wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

So no, I have no reason to trust the star child...If you do, your using flawed judgement.

If you have no reason to trust the Catalyst, if you think he's lying through his teeth, what makes you think Destroy is the "good" option? Why aren't they all simply bad options?

I saidthis many times....Dostry is the only choice I see that defies the reapers. Picking theother choices work with them. It's about not submitting to them.

[FatalX7.0]

*comes back*

They submit to you in control.

*leaves again*

[hoodaticus]

OdanUrr wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

So no, I have no reason to trust the star child...If you do, your using flawed judgement.

If you have no reason to trust the Catalyst, if you think he's lying through his teeth, what makes you think Destroy is the "good" option? Why aren't they all simply bad options?

Because I can tell when I'm being manipulated, and he was swaying me towards the left.

"The wise man inclines to the right, but the fool to the left." - King Solomon the Wise, The Bible - Ecclesiates 10:2

Modifié par hoodaticus, 19 mai 2012 - 02:52 .

[dreman9999]

HagarIshay wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...




1. Please us some occam's razorr. We never seen Anderson implanted with any tech. He's pure organic...But for the entirity of ME3 he's on earth and has lotsof contact with reapers and reaper forces as he commands armies to fight them....It's very clear that it's indoctrination.
2. Yes, You are in denial. Untill you think of the flaws of yourc hoice, you in denial. I'm not even arguing IT with this. And even then I still see the flaw of control and Synthesis to choose if the ending is literal. If you can't see the flaws of the choice, you in denial. The entire games showed how those choices are flawed.

1. So now eveybody are indoctrinated! How nice to see that everything is making sense! Becasue there is NO way TIM is just rich and powerfull enough to create enough advanced tech to control people. Or rebuilding the dead. No, we need everything to make sense to the IT.  <_<

2. I gave you more than enough times statements that I see my choice's flaws, and the other two choices's good sides. The fact that you are ignoring them are your problem, not mine. 

1. No, every one with alot of contact with reaper tech is undersuspect of being in the process of indoctrination. That is logic based on the fact reapers and reaper tech indoctrinates. And as I said before,
occam's razor. TIM uses his money as resoursed to study indoctrination, seen in sactuary, and find a way to control husk with it. He also uses it to control his troops as well. In the cerberus base, we see that he has the same tech that can control husks implated in his body and we learn plans to use the crucible to control the reapers.... It not an assuption that he is using indoctrination. This is something that is shown to you based on info given.

2. Youmissing the point...It's not you giving rason why it's not flaw. It the fact that youcan't see the flwsin them...You never consider them. Thus it's denial.

Modifié par dreman9999, 19 mai 2012 - 02:53 .

[OdanUrr]

dreman9999 wrote...

I said this many times....Dostry is the only choice I see that defies the reapers. Picking the other choices work with them. It's about not submitting to them.

But if you pick any, you're ultimately taking the Catalyst's explanations of those choices at face value, aren't you?

[OdanUrr]

hoodaticus wrote...

Because I can tell when I'm being manipulated, and he was swaying me towards the left.

"The wise man inclines to the right, but the fool to the left." - King Solomon the Wise, The Bible - Ecclesiates 10:2

To my mind, he was advocating for Synthesis.

[dreman9999]

OdanUrr wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

I said this many times....Dostry is the only choice I see that defies the reapers. Picking the other choices work with them. It's about not submitting to them.

But if you pick any, you're ultimately taking the Catalyst's explanations of those choices at face value, aren't you?

But your missing the point that he really offers 2 choices. Destory isjust a recomfermation that I want to do it. Regardless, It's still about not submitting what the reapers want. Synthesis let's the reapers contol everything, and control opens up a way for them to control Shepard.

[jijeebo]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

They submit to you in control.

*leaves again*

True dat.


Harbinger is Shepards b!tch for all eternity.

[dreman9999]

OdanUrr wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...

Because I can tell when I'm being manipulated, and he was swaying me towards the left.

"The wise man inclines to the right, but the fool to the left." - King Solomon the Wise, The Bible - Ecclesiates 10:2

To my mind, he was advocating for Synthesis.

That was his point.

[FatalX7.0]

jijeebo wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

They submit to you in control.

*leaves again*

True dat.


Harbinger is Shepards b!tch for all eternity.

*comes back again*

Shepard: Don't make me come over there and Assume Direct Control.

Harbinger: This hurts me.

*leaves again*

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 19 mai 2012 - 02:58 .

[dreman9999]

jijeebo wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

They submit to you in control.

*leaves again*

True dat.


Harbinger is Shepards b!tch for all eternity.

What does"You will die. You can control us but lose everything you have."mean?

How do I control them I eventhing that makes me..."me"...Is gone?

[dreman9999]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

They submit to you in control.

*leaves again*

True dat.


Harbinger is Shepards b!tch for all eternity.

*comes back again*

Shepard: Don't make me come over there and Assume Direct Control.

Harbinger: This hurts me.

*leaves again*

What does"You will die. You can control us but lose everything you have."mean?

How do I control them I eventhing that makes me..."me"...Is gone?

[OdanUrr]

dreman9999 wrote...

But your missing the point that he really offers 2 choices. Destory isjust a recomfermation that I want to do it. Regardless, It's still about not submitting what the reapers want. Synthesis let's the reapers contol everything, and control opens up a way for them to control Shepard.

You're missing my point. If you think he's lying, what assurance do you have that Destroy will do what the Catalyst says it does?

[FatalX7.0]

dreman9999 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

They submit to you in control.

*leaves again*

True dat.


Harbinger is Shepards b!tch for all eternity.

*comes back again*

Shepard: Don't make me come over there and Assume Direct Control.

Harbinger: This hurts me.

*leaves again*

What does"You will die. You can control us but lose everything you have."mean?

How do I control them I eventhing that makes me..."me"...Is gone?

Is that English that you just tried to type?


You turn into a Reaper.

Magically, like the rest of the endings.

How does Synthesis work? Magic.

Why does Shepard walk into an explosion? Retardation.


Or Geth. Like software that gets put into a Reaper.

Or your being gets transmitted into every Reaper.

Who knows. The ending is stupid, IT doesn't make it any better.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 19 mai 2012 - 03:07 .

[dreman9999]

OdanUrr wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

But your missing the point that he really offers 2 choices. Destory isjust a recomfermation that I want to do it. Regardless, It's still about not submitting what the reapers want. Synthesis let's the reapers contol everything, and control opens up a way for them to control Shepard.

You're missing my point. If you think he's lying, what assurance do you have that Destroy will do what the Catalyst says it does?

That doesn't matter. The worst that will happen is that I die.Choosing the other options just open up more control to the reapers, a thing I will not do. It's a concept of death instead of submission.

[dreman9999]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

They submit to you in control.

*leaves again*

True dat.


Harbinger is Shepards b!tch for all eternity.

*comes back again*

Shepard: Don't make me come over there and Assume Direct Control.

Harbinger: This hurts me.

*leaves again*

What does"You will die. You can control us but lose everything you have."mean?

How do I control them I eventhing that makes me..."me"...Is gone?

Is that English that you just tried to type?


You turn into a Reaper.

Magically, like the rest of the endings.

How does Synthesis work? Magic.

Why does Shepard walk into an explosion? Retardation.

I love how you avoide the question. Did you even think that there is a limit to how much you can lose in this upload? Who is controling it and desiding what to keptof you and what is thrown away. Memory is a thing that can be easilly discarded and there is a chance that can happen in this upload. Do you trust the star kid that muchto keep everything about your will intact?
Do you understand what I mean? Losing everything means everything, incuding memories. If it's possible, then the option is a no.

[jijeebo]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

They submit to you in control.

*leaves again*

True dat.


Harbinger is Shepards b!tch for all eternity.

*comes back again*

Shepard: Don't make me come over there and Assume Direct Control.

Harbinger: This hurts me.

*leaves again*

 

Best image evar.

[FatalX7.0]

Overly analytical, avoiding edit, arrogance.

I shall facepalm yet again and leave, because you're a silly goose.

[FatalX7.0]

jijeebo wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

They submit to you in control.

*leaves again*

True dat.


Harbinger is Shepards b!tch for all eternity.

*comes back again*

Shepard: Don't make me come over there and Assume Direct Control.

Harbinger: This hurts me.

*leaves again*

 

Best image evar.

Yep.

Too bad IT ruins it with it's straw grasping and illogical logical plotholes.

[jijeebo]

dreman9999 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

They submit to you in control.

*leaves again*

True dat.


Harbinger is Shepards b!tch for all eternity.

*comes back again*

Shepard: Don't make me come over there and Assume Direct Control.

Harbinger: This hurts me.

*leaves again*

What does"You will die. You can control us but lose everything you have."mean?

How do I control them I eventhing that makes me..."me"...Is gone?

He says you'll lose everything you HAVE not everything you ARE.

Shepard stays as Shepard, minus his previous life.

[dreman9999]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

They submit to you in control.

*leaves again*

True dat.


Harbinger is Shepards b!tch for all eternity.

*comes back again*

Shepard: Don't make me come over there and Assume Direct Control.

Harbinger: This hurts me.

*leaves again*

 

Best image evar.

Yep.

Too bad IT ruins it with it's straw grasping and illogical logical plotholes.

You man with what the star kid say..."Yes you will die. You can control use but lose everything you have"?
You fault for not understand the length of that meaning.

[dreman9999]

jijeebo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

They submit to you in control.

*leaves again*

True dat.


Harbinger is Shepards b!tch for all eternity.

*comes back again*

Shepard: Don't make me come over there and Assume Direct Control.

Harbinger: This hurts me.

*leaves again*

What does"You will die. You can control us but lose everything you have."mean?

How do I control them I eventhing that makes me..."me"...Is gone?

He says you'll lose everything you HAVE not everything you ARE.

Shepard stays as Shepard, minus his previous life.

What you are is every thing you have. There is nothing stating youmemeory is intact when you upload. If that is a risk to do that thenthe choice is a no.