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[dreman9999]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Overly analytical, avoiding edit, arrogance.

I shall facepalm yet again and leave, because you're a silly goose.

You fault for not understandin what "lose everything" means.

[FatalX7.0]

dreman9999 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

They submit to you in control.

*leaves again*

True dat.


Harbinger is Shepards b!tch for all eternity.

*comes back again*

Shepard: Don't make me come over there and Assume Direct Control.

Harbinger: This hurts me.

*leaves again*

 

Best image evar.

Yep.

Too bad IT ruins it with it's straw grasping and illogical logical plotholes.

You man with what the star kid say..."Yes you will die. You can control use but lose everything you have"?
You fault for not understand the length of that meaning.

I wish I could understand the language you're trying to type.

You lose your physical being.

You have your own interpretation of what Star **** says, but for some reason, yours is right.

Yay!

[hoodaticus]

OdanUrr wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...

Because I can tell when I'm being manipulated, and he was swaying me towards the left.

"The wise man inclines to the right, but the fool to the left." - King Solomon the Wise, The Bible - Ecclesiates 10:2

To my mind, he was advocating for Synthesis.

He was gung-ho for synthesis and ambiguous about control.  Destroy he was most negative.  Trying to sway me away from it.  That is why I chose it.  But I had to pause the game for 30 minutes and think long and hard about it.

[jijeebo]

dreman9999 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

They submit to you in control.

*leaves again*

True dat.


Harbinger is Shepards b!tch for all eternity.

*comes back again*

Shepard: Don't make me come over there and Assume Direct Control.

Harbinger: This hurts me.

*leaves again*

What does"You will die. You can control us but lose everything you have."mean?

How do I control them I eventhing that makes me..."me"...Is gone?

He says you'll lose everything you HAVE not everything you ARE.

Shepard stays as Shepard, minus his previous life.

What you are is every thing you have. There is nothing stating youmemeory is intact when you upload. If that is a risk to do that thenthe choice is a no.

If you assume the Catalyst is lieing or holding out on you, every choice is a ridiculously big risk.

You take risks to win wars... We can't end the cycle by playing it safe.

[FatalX7.0]

dreman9999 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

They submit to you in control.

*leaves again*

True dat.


Harbinger is Shepards b!tch for all eternity.

*comes back again*

Shepard: Don't make me come over there and Assume Direct Control.

Harbinger: This hurts me.

*leaves again*

What does"You will die. You can control us but lose everything you have."mean?

How do I control them I eventhing that makes me..."me"...Is gone?

He says you'll lose everything you HAVE not everything you ARE.

Shepard stays as Shepard, minus his previous life.

What you are is every thing you have. There is nothing stating youmemeory is intact when you upload. If that is a risk to do that thenthe choice is a no.

Star **** never says it is or isn't.

You're assuming that it's negative, based on nothing.

Also, stop replying to all of my comments and saying the same the thing, you're wasting your own time and I'm not going to respond to two different posts about the same thing.

*leaves again*

[Ageless Face]

dreman9999 wrote...


1. No, every one with alot of contact with reaper tech is undersuspect of being in the process of indoctrination. That is logic based on the fact reapers and reaper tech indoctrinates. And as I said before,
occam's razor. TIM uses his money as resoursed to study indoctrination, seen in sactuary, and find a way to control husk with it. He also uses it to control his troops as well. In the cerberus base, we see that he has the same tech that can control husks implated in his body and we learn plans to use the crucible to control the reapers.... It not an assuption that he is using indoctrination. This is something that is shown to you based on info given.

2. Youmissing the point...It's not you giving rason why it's not flaw. It the fact that youcan't see the flwsin them...You never consider them. Thus it's denial.

1. If everyone with contact to the reapers is being indoctrinated, then all the humans on Earth are lost anyway. either that or Anderson is not indoctiranted. 

2. I told you I see control's flaws. And gave you examples. Based only on the ending, without the IT reasons to control's faults. So how do you figure I never considered the cons of it? 

On the other hand, I never saw YOU bringing the destroy faults. Did you even considered control and synthesis pros BASED ON THE ENDING? The original one? Why are you being hypocrite?

Admit it: You think i'm in denial because I don't believe the IT. That is enough to make my words false, and to think  i'm spouting nonsense. Does my opinion mean nothing?

[dreman9999]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

They submit to you in control.

*leaves again*

True dat.


Harbinger is Shepards b!tch for all eternity.

*comes back again*

Shepard: Don't make me come over there and Assume Direct Control.

Harbinger: This hurts me.

*leaves again*

 

Best image evar.

Yep.

Too bad IT ruins it with it's straw grasping and illogical logical plotholes.

You man with what the star kid say..."Yes you will die. You can control use but lose everything you have"?
You fault for not understand the length of that meaning.

I wish I could understand the language you're trying to type.

You lose your physical being.

You have your own interpretation of what Star **** says, but for some reason, yours is right.

Yay!

No, it already tells you you lose your physicl being when hesaid you will die. But he is unclear to the rests. Like Isaid before, memeory can be lost with ease.He says everything....Is there a limit to everything? That is unclear.That opens the chance of memory lost being that it's part of your everything. If there is achance of that, then control is a no.

[FatalX7.0]

*comes back*

He also says in destroy, "Even you are partly synthetic".

Which means that in destroy, there is also "a chance" that you will die. Why does that only matter in the other two endings, then?

*stays*

[Ageless Face]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

He also says in destroy, "Even you are partly synthetic".

Which means that in destroy, there is also "a chance" that you will die. Why does that only matter in the other two endings, then?

*stays*

Isn't it obvious?

To prove the IT of course! 

[FatalX7.0]

HagarIshay wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

He also says in destroy, "Even you are partly synthetic".

Which means that in destroy, there is also "a chance" that you will die. Why does that only matter in the other two endings, then?

*stays*

Isn't it obvious?

To prove the IT of course! 

Hell, you do die if your EMS isn't high enough.

[dreman9999]

HagarIshay wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...


1. No, every one with alot of contact with reaper tech is undersuspect of being in the process of indoctrination. That is logic based on the fact reapers and reaper tech indoctrinates. And as I said before,
occam's razor. TIM uses his money as resoursed to study indoctrination, seen in sactuary, and find a way to control husk with it. He also uses it to control his troops as well. In the cerberus base, we see that he has the same tech that can control husks implated in his body and we learn plans to use the crucible to control the reapers.... It not an assuption that he is using indoctrination. This is something that is shown to you based on info given.

2. Youmissing the point...It's not you giving rason why it's not flaw. It the fact that youcan't see the flwsin them...You never consider them. Thus it's denial.

1. If everyone with contact to the reapers is being indoctrinated, then all the humans on Earth are lost anyway. either that or Anderson is not indoctiranted. 

2. I told you I see control's flaws. And gave you examples. Based only on the ending, without the IT reasons to control's faults. So how do you figure I never considered the cons of it? 

On the other hand, I never saw YOU bringing the destroy faults. Did you even considered control and synthesis pros BASED ON THE ENDING? The original one? Why are you being hypocrite?

Admit it: You think i'm in denial because I don't believe the IT. That is enough to make my words false, and to think  i'm spouting nonsense. Does my opinion mean nothing?

1. Their is a difference between being in the process of indoctrination and being indoctrianted. being in the process ofindoctrination mean you still can resist indoctrination.....I guess you missed that point. 
Earth easily can still be saved.
2.I did bring up destorys flaults the moment I said everything after Shepard is cut down can be a a hallucination. There more pro's to destory then cons compared to the other choices. Letting the reaper implant you when they have a history of controling people with implants is a con I hope you know.

And this has nothing to do with IT. I'm not even arguing it. It all about you giving so muchtrust to a guy who just said he controls the reapers...That's like being part of allied forcesand WW2 and trusting Hitler.

[dreman9999]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

He also says in destroy, "Even you are partly synthetic".

Which means that in destroy, there is also "a chance" that you will die. Why does that only matter in the other two endings, then?

*stays*

So what, Shepard know there is a chance he will die in this war.  Also, when you pick destory with High ems....He lives anyway.

[dreman9999]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

He also says in destroy, "Even you are partly synthetic".

Which means that in destroy, there is also "a chance" that you will die. Why does that only matter in the other two endings, then?

*stays*

Isn't it obvious?

To prove the IT of course! 

Hell, you do die if your EMS isn't high enough.

Or the reaper haveallthe time in the world to force indoctrination on you.

[Leonardo the Magnificent]

dreman9999 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

He also says in destroy, "Even you are partly synthetic".

Which means that in destroy, there is also "a chance" that you will die. Why does that only matter in the other two endings, then?

*stays*

So what, Shepard know there is a chance he will die in this war.  Also, when you pick destory with High ems....He lives anyway.

So instead of sacrificing his own life to solve the problem, he commits genocide and kills his synthetic friend.

[jijeebo]

dreman9999 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

He also says in destroy, "Even you are partly synthetic".

Which means that in destroy, there is also "a chance" that you will die. Why does that only matter in the other two endings, then?

*stays*

Isn't it obvious?

To prove the IT of course! 

Hell, you do die if your EMS isn't high enough.

Or the reaper haveallthe time in the world to force indoctrination on you.

We are LOSING the battle regardless of your EMS... The reapers have all the time in the world either way..


I told you this yesterday and you completely blanked me. <_<

[FatalX7.0]

So, if EC comes out and goes with IT, does that mean that everyone has to play multiplayer or use save editors to get the appropriate amount of EMS so they can all pick destroy and survive and do the EC?

[Leonardo the Magnificent]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

So, if EC comes out and goes with IT, does that mean that everyone has to play multiplayer or use save editors to get the appropriate amount of EMS so they can all pick destroy and survive and do the EC?

Oh, don't worry, I'm sure they'll "fix" that little issue. It's not like MP is their main source of revenue at this point, right?

[jijeebo]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

So, if EC comes out and goes with IT, does that mean that everyone has to play multiplayer or use save editors to get the appropriate amount of EMS so they can all pick destroy and survive and do the EC?

Yes... 

"Multiplayer won't affect single player... But we TOTES only made the "Real" ending achievable if you played it."

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

jijeebo wrote...
We are LOSING the battle regardless of your EMS... The reapers have all the time in the world either way..


I told you this yesterday and you completely blanked me. <_<

One thing I also have to ask about.

If the endings are indoctrination attempts then why does the star child in some cases not offer synthesis and control? Shouldn't these options always be open?

[Mcfly616]

Haha he finally corrected "egoist"lololol

[Ageless Face]

dreman9999 wrote...

1. Their is a difference between being in the process of indoctrination and being indoctrianted. being in the process ofindoctrination mean you still can resist indoctrination.....I guess you missed that point. 
Earth easily can still be saved.
2.I did bring up destorys flaults the moment I said everything after Shepard is cut down can be a a hallucination. There more pro's to destory then cons compared to the other choices. Letting the reaper implant you when they have a history of controling people with implants is a con I hope you know.

And this has nothing to do with IT. I'm not even arguing it. It all about you giving so muchtrust to a guy who just said he controls the reapers...That's like being part of allied forcesand WW2 and trusting Hitler.

1. Anderson wasn't even that long near the reapers. No more than anyone else on Earth. How the hell do you assume he is indoctrinated?!?!?

2. no, YOU think there are more pros to destroy than to synthesis or control. I don't think that way. I see equal amounts of cons and pros on any side, but i still perfer my choice better, because the cons and pros suit my ideals more.

You see it as trusting Hitler. That is becasue you are comparing the catalyst to organics. But the catalyst is not! He is a synthetic life. His mind is not build by the emotions organics have. He sees things more with logic (messed up as it is), and less by feelings. That is why he can consider other options aside from "his solution", the reapers. Because there can now be other solutions, thanks to the crucible. 

[dreman9999]

jijeebo wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

He also says in destroy, "Even you are partly synthetic".

Which means that in destroy, there is also "a chance" that you will die. Why does that only matter in the other two endings, then?

*stays*

Isn't it obvious?

To prove the IT of course! 

Hell, you do die if your EMS isn't high enough.

Or the reaper haveallthe time in the world to force indoctrination on you.

We are LOSING the battle regardless of your EMS... The reapers have all the time in the world either way..


I told you this yesterday and you completely blanked me. <_<

It not a matter of if we arelosing...It's which ems level we lose the fastest. Going in we all knew we were going to lose in a straigh fight. But in high ems, the allied fleet have more ships, is more flexible, and last much longer. Being that they're are more flexible and have more ships....A counter attack can be planned and made on the conduit again. It's not Shepard that is key to the reapers losing...It's the crucible...Anyone can activate it. So even with Harbinger guading the conduit, with ground attack and air support, he can't stop every one from entering.  Someone will get thtough. That means manipulating Shepard  has a time limit at High ems. At low ems  their is not time limit..

[Leonardo the Magnificent]

Lizardviking wrote...

jijeebo wrote...
We are LOSING the battle regardless of your EMS... The reapers have all the time in the world either way..


I told you this yesterday and you completely blanked me. <_<

One thing I also have to ask about.

If the endings are indoctrination attempts then why does the star child in some cases not offer synthesis and control? Shouldn't these options always be open?

I believe the standard explanation for that is "You've done such a bad job that you wouldn't be able to survive even if you did 'wake up.'"

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

jijeebo wrote...
We are LOSING the battle regardless of your EMS... The reapers have all the time in the world either way..


I told you this yesterday and you completely blanked me. <_<

One thing I also have to ask about.

If the endings are indoctrination attempts then why does the star child in some cases not offer synthesis and control? Shouldn't these options always be open?

I believe the standard explanation for that is "You've done such a bad job that you wouldn't be able to survive even if you did 'wake up.'"

So basicly a "Shepard bleeds out no matter what"?

[dreman9999]

Leonardo the Magnificent wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

*comes back*

He also says in destroy, "Even you are partly synthetic".

Which means that in destroy, there is also "a chance" that you will die. Why does that only matter in the other two endings, then?

*stays*

So what, Shepard know there is a chance he will die in this war.  Also, when you pick destory with High ems....He lives anyway.

So instead of sacrificing his own life to solve the problem, he commits genocide and kills his synthetic friend.

You think Shepard was picking he choice because he new he live. He had no clue...Also, the geth and EDI already said they rather die the die then be slaves tot he reapers.....

ALTERNATE EDI AFTER HORIZON



GETH PRIME - THERE WILL BE NO MORE COMPROMISE WITH THE OLD MACHINES

That is what the other choices can do.....So no I'm not going to have them brain washed so they can live.