JusticarDoom wrote...
I know this is minute, but the person with the N7 Dog Tags could possibly be James. Unless he turned up for someone on the Normandy cutscene.
balance5050 wrote...
JusticarDoom wrote...
I know this is minute, but the person with the N7 Dog Tags could possibly be James. Unless he turned up for someone on the Normandy cutscene.
No, if you play as female Shepard, there is a female in that scene as well. Also the actual file is called "Shepard_Alive".
Hadeedak wrote...
balance5050 wrote...
JusticarDoom wrote...
I know this is minute, but the person with the N7 Dog Tags could possibly be James. Unless he turned up for someone on the Normandy cutscene.
No, if you play as female Shepard, there is a female in that scene as well. Also the actual file is called "Shepard_Alive".
Jinx.
Hadeedak wrote...
In a perfect ending for me, there'd be a lot more participation from the team, even if you had to leave them behind one by one for tasks. I know we only get two squaddies, but only taking two people to the beam seemed silly. Two did a good job of explaining, and I wish it'd been more like that. But... As is, Shepard lives or dies alone. And in need of a hug.
HagarIshay wrote...
estebanus wrote...
But it is never implied that ghosts DO exist! It is never said that Reaper Bieber is a ghost! So how do you know that it is a ghost? If anything, it seems more like an A.I. to me!
But Shepard has ultimately succeded in killing the reapers! That's what you wanted! You wanted Shepard to be able to defeat them, even if you chose control! The only thing I'm seeing you say is that the composition of the scene is what you don't like. didn't you see that Garrus only kills Shepard if your EMS is under 3000? If it is over, Shepard will sacrifice him/herself by running into a unit of reaper troops! Isn't that dying by his/her own terms? Is it better to let the commander stay indoctrinated, just so that Garrus doesn't shoot him/her?
Of course Shepard is largely screwed by indoctrination BY FORCE. What the hell do you think indoctrination does? As far as I know, the whole ending script shows how your choices matter! Depending on your other choices in-game, you can either save the galaxy even IF you chose control, or you can't. Simple.
Not every choice is the right one. Accept that. Was curing the Genophage with Wreav leading and Eve dead the right choice? Was it the right choice to kill off the Geth? Was it right to kill off the Quarians? Was it right to let almost all your squad die in the suicide mission? Was it right to save the reaper-made Rachni queen?
What you say is that you want control to be the right choice, which it clearly ISN'T. Even with or without the IT, Control is still wrong, even the game files support that. Nobody should be allowed that much power, no matter what your intentions are. Not to mention of the moral implications of choosing control, of course. Don't even get me started on Synthesis!
If he is an AI, then Shepard's mind can still be tranfered to the catalyst. Fine, not being a ghost, but Shepard's orders to the reapers can still exist. That was my point.
If i wanted to kill the reapers, I would have chosen destroy, no? I am being given an option to find another solution aside from the obvious "We destroy them, or they destroy us". This can work for some, others will want to have another solution. The three choices are being given for the player to decide.
Let's go with your examples. it is your decision to choose if it is right to cure the genophage with a ruthless krogan leading even if Eve is dead, Because you think that the krogan still should have their freedom. if you don't cure the genophage, it's the only way to let Mordin survive. Choosing to pick the geth will result in more EMS, if I am not mistaking. Choosing the quarians will let Tali survive. It's all based on what you think is better for your story.
And why would I accept my choice as wrong? Would you accept in the EC destroy being the wrong option?
Again, control is right for me. I know it's faults. There are many unknowns in this option, Most odds Shepard will be the new catalyst. But I still agree with it. I understand why people will choose synthesis or destroy, but I still don't agree to their morals. You can think otherwise, and we will agree to disagree.
Modifié par estebanus, 19 mai 2012 - 10:34 .
Modifié par Hadeedak, 19 mai 2012 - 10:34 .
Hadeedak wrote...
Well, yeah. It's pretty standard that what you come up with, tailored to your own preferences, with no budget or time limits, is better for you. XD
I kid, I kid. Sure, they could have done soooooo much better. And I think it could have gone worse, too.
estebanus wrote...
Really? I thought your point was that Shepard should die an heroic death instead of being doomed to eternal existence?
So you don't want to defeat the reapers? All right then... (Control does not mean the Reapers are defeated, and the deaths of the quadrillions of lives that were taken by them will never be avenged)
And as such, it is your decision that Shepard betraying the very thing s/he stands for is right to you.
Even if the endings are literal, I'd pick destroy each damn time. I won't sacrifice the soul of our species (as Shepard so elegantly put it in ME2), even if it means both the Geth and EDI dying (Which I still doubt). As such, both control and destroy remain in incredible grey areas of morals. I wanted to avenge the deaths of all those people who's lives were ruined by the reapers, not leave them unavenged. So I killed them. Simple as that.
I agree that we can agree to disagree. Control is right for you, destroy is right for me. For some (weird) people,
synthesis/SPACE MAGIC is right. Although I disagree, I can respect your opinion on what you think is right, and as such, I won't bother you anymore about this.
Good day, Maa'm.
HagarIshay wrote...
KingZayd wrote...
No. IT isn't. It said that there was more to come, where we would see what happened after that choice. You can do wrong. There are still consequences for all the other choices you've made. There are no bad consequences for choosing to shoot TIM are there.
In fact, (unless Bioware comes up with something nobody's thought of) if IT isn't in the EC, then the game would be ruined for me. We want different things from the EC. It seems unless Bioware has a solution nobody else has thought of, that one of us will be unhappy with the results.
Maybe you should be more considerate?
And that is why i'm asking from pro-IT to be cool down a bit with the hate to the other options. Since the majority today stands with the IT, there is a very high chance for it to be in the EC, or the EC being pro-destroy. I guess I could play with the EC with the IT in it, just not as it being against my choice, like you don't want to play without the IT. maybe every choice should lead to indoctrination, or if you had a low EMS then you should be indocrtinated. Not if you played the game to pefection and did everything that could be done.
One of the biggest complaints about the ending is that your choices don't matter. And if the IT is true, then this point will continue to stand.
Modifié par KingZayd, 21 mai 2012 - 12:56 .
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