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[Lexa_D]

Adam2190 wrote...

For a long time i simply wasn't getting medi gel from packs so i was always in short supply.

But now you have a jumbo pack, so this won't be an issue.

[eran5005]

Disciple888 wrote...

eran5005 wrote...

Is there some physical rule that says that if someone is playing as random instead of a group of friends it means he's a bad player? I can't count the number of threads that obsess about how "bad those randoms are". well whiners - YOU are another random to someone else, and i know each one of you think that all these complaints have nothing to do with you, i mean, how could they? you are all such amazing players that solo gold while holding the controller between your ass cheeks right?
Just because someone is not on your friend list doesn't make them bad players, the only thing that makes someone a bad player is if he is playing badly - being random has nothing to do with it.

there is no physical rule, but everybody on my friends list uses medi-gel.  Don't encounter this problem, except in in PUGs.  Tragedy of the commons and all that.

I wasn't talking specificaly about your thread, but in general about how people here use the word "random" like it's a curse or something. I don't have any real life friends that play ME3 so for a good while i was playing solely as and with randoms, and it didn't make me or them bad players.
And LOL on using "PUG", havn't heard that term ever since my long ago days in CS

[Pavs719]

I have gone through some waves and they haven't used them, I have had to revive, then come wave 10 all of a sudden your running to help to find they have revived themselves, so ok if you only have one gel that's fair enough, but if you go into a game with more you should use it, I had to use 3 because of reviving someone and had a turret to contend with, however that was fun.

[Xendless]

I don't mind other waves so much, but on wave 10 with half the objectives done NOW is the time to get up off your lazy ass.
Unless they think spending 1 medigel to obtain the money for at least 5 more is too mainstream.

[SimulatedSnowman]

Xendless wrote...

I don't mind other waves so much, but on wave 10 with half the objectives done NOW is the time to get up off your lazy ass.
Unless they think spending 1 medigel to obtain the money for at least 5 more is too mainstream.

LOL I was using medigel before it got all corporate and mainstream. Back when it was called Neosporin

[Shock n Awe]

 If it's in the first 5 waves, I'm not going to gel.

If it's with Randoms, I probably won't gel until Wave 8 or so, depending on whether I think we can beat it or not.

[GodlessPaladin]

Shock n Awe wrote...

 If it's in the first 5 waves, I'm not going to gel.

If it's with Randoms, I probably won't gel until Wave 8 or so, depending on whether I think we can beat it or not.

Giving up with such ease, especially so late in the game... 

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 17 mai 2012 - 02:27 .

[BDelacroix]

I am out of them at the moment. I'll also not use one if it looks like we are going to lose anyway.

[Arcataye]

The only way I'll run out of medigel is to spam quick bronze games where I'd die on purpose to use all the medigels I could. I haven't bought the jumbo equipment packs either, so I don't really understand how can someone have zero medigels. Maybe I'm just "lucky" getting medigels out of every pack I buy. I'd rather take some upgrades at this point. :3

Modifié par Arcataye, 17 mai 2012 - 01:17 .

[GodlessPaladin]

It's pretty bloody hard to run out of medigel without losing so frequently that you never buy packs, especially with JEPs as a permanent feature.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 17 mai 2012 - 01:16 .

[Poison_Berrie]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

so basically, u guys don't use medi-gel because u feel you can't beat gold with bad randoms?

Recognizing a "lost cause" implies that their own survival does not provide a chance of completing the wave. 

We can't all be top notch players capable of carrying an all noob team.

[GodlessPaladin]

Poison_Berrie wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Disciple888 wrote...

so basically, u guys don't use medi-gel because u feel you can't beat gold with bad randoms?

Recognizing a "lost cause" implies that their own survival does not provide a chance of completing the wave. 

We can't all be top notch players capable of carrying an all noob team.

In that case you should be medigelling RIGHT AWAY so that your teammates aren't getting swarmed by all the aggro you dropped when you got yourself wasted, instead of expecting them to be good enough to carry you.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 17 mai 2012 - 01:21 .

[GongStar]

I have my own rules about medi-gels.
How many I use, on what wave etc.

[IchikoSakura]

it definietly depends on wave number and how far into the wave. if only a handful of guys are around I also do not expect anyone to revive me. don't waste your oportunity.

also if i go down in the middle of like 5, 6 geth hunters I also would not medi gel myself... i would go down again anyway before i get away. also, when the first guy also goes down or there is a revive-down-rerevive-down... happening i maybe get my rocket thrower to clean up there first.

I would not throw myself into certain death for a revive. as a lot of people think they have to do.
a trap like a phantom or multiple geth hunters cannot be avoided sometimes though...

[GodlessPaladin]

death_for_sale wrote...
Maybe they knew that you were such an awesome player that you didn't need their help to solo the wave. Why waste a medigel when you have the situation well in hand?

  In other words, thinking like a leecher.  Why help if someone else can play for you? 

Like I said...

bad and should feel bad.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 17 mai 2012 - 01:25 .

[PreGy]

Disciple888 wrote...

(...) Doesn't tell anyone what killed him.  (...)

Look at the right-bottom of your screen. That's the kill feed. It also shows some amazing and helpful information.


Btw, I won't medi-gel if I know for a fact that my teammates aren't even trying to save me (without reason). I'm not talking about being overrun and get down, but the opposite. Having a teammate right beside you, ignoring you, and no enemy around. Unless I see in the team another one who is really playing for the team, I won't waste any kind of equipment with these kind of foes. Usually, these are games where you have to solo some waves, carry your team... they abandon you the single time you get down. And then you bleed out and "Mision failed". I don't mind at all.

One other thing: sometimes is better to revive behind a cover, and take a few seconds to kill that marauder shooting before attempting to revive. It saves a lot of trouble.

[Poison_Berrie]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

In that case you should be medigelling RIGHT AWAY so that your teammates aren't getting swarmed by all the aggro you dropped when you got yourself wasted, instead of expecting them to be good enough to carry you.

I was more specifically refering to the situation where the entire team already is dead.

Anyway I won't medigel before wave 3. Otherwise it depends on the situation and the distance I am from my fellow players.

Modifié par Poison_Berrie, 17 mai 2012 - 01:27 .

[John123453242]

Why dont you help them out? What weak class are you using that you and the others can't take out 3-4 enemies and revive?

[GodlessPaladin]

Poison_Berrie wrote...Anyway I won't medigel before wave 3.

Why are you dying so much before wave 3 anyways?

[NuclearTech76]

Disciple888 wrote...

are the bane of my PUG existence.

Random goes down (Hunter, Pyro, Marauder, whatever).  Doesn't tell anyone what killed him.  Second random goes over to revive him.  One of two things happen.

A) He revives him, and gets killed.  Then the first random either runs away, but goes down in the process OR he tries to revive him, and goes down.  A third random goes over to help, not knowing anything about the situation because nobody is talking, and gets killed too.  I then solo the Wave.

or

He fails to revive, and gets killed himself.  A third random.goes over to help, and... you know the rest.


Moral of the story: if that first random had just used some ****ing medi-gel, this whole mess could've been averted.

Too many people try to run into a ****storm with no umberla. The most important thing about reviving is not getting yourself killed. If I see <random player> taken down by phantom, I know to be extra careful about the situation because they like to sit on downed players. Assess the situation before you run in and try to revive someone. Use a mic also. I'll usually tell people I have medigel if you can't make it to me or are in a bad situation don't worry about it but I hoard it till the last sec also.

[Poison_Berrie]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Poison_Berrie wrote...Anyway I won't medigel before wave 3.

Why are you dying so much before wave 3 anyways?

I'd guess terrible team synergy/co-operation.

[NuclearTech76]

GongStar wrote...

I have my own rules about medi-gels.
How many I use, on what wave etc.

Yep. Mine change according to the game I'm in also. If I'm playing gold and the team is going down several times in the early waves, I have to think seriously about the odds of success overall.

[TweedleDee66]

KarmaTheAlligator wrote...

Medi-gels are in short supply for some.

This ^ fits me perfectly. I save my credits to buy Premium Spectre Packs in hope to get better weapons, I usually never get a medi-gel out of them. I usually get thermal clip packs or missiles which I don’t need. I’m not to keen on spending 33,000 credits for that Jumbo Equipment Pack to get some medi-gel packs.

Even IF I have medi-gel I use it only in a few cases.

1. I did something stupid to get killed and don’t want my team to waste time on resurrecting me for my stupidity. New character builds with new weapons or powers are included in this.
2. I’m about to bleed out or get stomped on to perma kill me by an enemy.
3. I know at least 1 other team mate is also bleeding out and the others are in a heated fight.

Disciple888 wrote...

2 gold games is 145k-150k credits (depending on the quality of randoms). That's one PSP and one JEP, which should cover all consumables you use in 2 gold games. Gold games take between 20-25 mins. with randoms. I don't understand how anyone could not have medi-gel.

Must be a gold difficulty or that “special” mentality thing huh? Not everyone has the skills to even do to many silver matches let alone try a gold. Earning 33,000 credits just to get some medi-gel is not worth it when my weapons are still mostly crap levels.

Modifié par TweedleDee66, 17 mai 2012 - 01:51 .