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[l7986]

Hmm I bet there are 75 perfect reviews just waiting to be released for the EC that will tell us how awesome it is.

[Scam_poo]

...if the EC fails, I will still have an awesome game and more importantly, an awesome series.

[From Tuchanka with Love]

 Because Mass Effect fans take stuff too seriously

[Teddie Sage]

From Tuchanka with Love wrote...

 Because Mass Effect fans take stuff too seriously

More like because people always take stuff too seriously about everything on this damn planet.

[Landon7001]

i dont care what game media says....why do you?

[KreeCapt]

StElmo wrote...



...the gaming media are going to poop on anyone who complains, sadly.

Why? Because anyone who is upset at the EC will look like a spoilt little brat, whining to mommy because he didn't get the christmas present he asked for.

They are going to be portrayed as a right dudley dursely and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

God, I hope the EC rocks, I couldn't stand more video game critics being condescending to ME fans, the lack of research or understanding of the issue is depressing.

I fully expect, and hope the EC will be good. I'm betting that it will be awesome. I just dread the potential articles that would come from a failure state - again, I think the EC will probably be good because there are a lot of things under wraps and no doubt we will all be surprised.

I could care less about Gaming Media. All of them are bought off my EA/Activision/Blizzard and the like anyhow.

Just look at the ME3 reviews. None of the major outlets/gaming reporters even acknowledged the screwed up ending. Now go look at some independant sites. All either warned of the nonsencial ending, but still praised the quality of the game.

All ME3 did for me (besides ruin my favorite franchise) was to expose the gaming media for what they truly are.

[DonYourAviators]

Meh, I won't care too much. BioWare will become known for making subpar products and that will be their problem, not mine.

[tishyw]

Chris Priestly wrote...

If people have a question about a locked thread, they are welcome to ask me through private message.

Stay on topic please.

Interesting Chris, I PM'ed you politely requesting that you reconsider the of locking this thread - http://social.biowar...dex/10481662/73 - and received no reply ...

On topic, I think the media have moved on from ME3 and are now busy getting stuck into Blizzard about the Diablo III servers.

[-Skorpious-]

If the EC fails, it will cement my suspicions that Bioware is a developer that can no longer create videogames that provide me with satisfaction anymore.

In case Bioware is keeping tabs on this thread, here is a suggestion that I think would benefit the EC -

Simply remove (or heavily edit) the starchild; his presence is completely jarring and unnecessary. His absence would be a tremendous improvement to the endings in my opinion.

[Stokie Stallion]

[quote]Arcian wrote...

[quote]StElmo wrote...



...the gaming media are going to poop on anyone who complains, sadly.


Gaming is an investment business, not a f***ing charity where you just take what you get and be happy with it.

[/quote]

[starscreamerx31]

If the ec cut fails. Im gonna Take all of my bioware games and burn them and slowly turn away with a tear. While walking away i will think to my self of all the lost possibilities this game offered. I remember they said they had over 1000 different choices they had to work with and i feel they blew it and the ones i did see were weak. Rachni queen decision anyone?

[AlanC9]

Someone with a lot of Bioware games shouldn't have been all that surprised by how ME3 ended, actually.

[Lee80]

I think the EC could be an interesting download, but it's far from what we really wanted most likely. People will complain, some will rave in it's favor, and both sides will call each other whiners. What I don't get is why opinions are argued about so often. Just because you work for a magazine doesn't mean your opinion matters more then mine or the other way around.

Myself I thought the whole mess got way more coverage then it should have. I was so sick of seeing new articles about ME3's ending come out every single day. I'm glad it's died down, and that hopefully the EC won't even be a bump on the radar. I hope like others it will be good. Mostly I am hoping it sticks to telling a bit more about what happened to crew members instead of trying to explain the unexplainable star child bs. :-/

[wizardryforever]

spacehamsterZH wrote...

If by "fail" you mean "a lot of people will complain about its content", then I can guarantee right here that it's going to fail.

Why? Because many people hate the ME3 ending for many different reasons, and there's no way the EC will be able to address all of that. And reading through threads on here about what people expect from it, it's also very clear that there are a lot of unrealistic expectations that the announcements about its content (which do exist, no matter what the "Bywarez why u no call me" crowd says) pretty much outright state will not be fulfilled.

So basically, no matter what this thing turns out to be, prepare yourself for sh#tstorm 2.0.

Yeah, not only is it impossible to please everybody, but some people just won't be happy with anything that comes out now.  See the appropriate entries for the Unpleasable Fanbase and RUINED FOREVER on TvTropes.

I kinda think that a little would go a long way for the EC, and they could end up hitting a home run with this.  One that shuts all but the most fanatical naysayers and pessimists up.  Given the amount of time they are taking on this, and the amount of press (even in mainstream media) this has received, I'd guess that EA and Bioware are scrambling to fix this.  There are a lot of little details that a simple one line of dialogue would clear up, and additional cutscenes are always nice.

[nuclearpengu1nn]

If it fails, I'll use my copy of ME3(collector's edition) as an ammo for my homemade disc launcher, and shoot it at the Grand Canyon. I'll post the video sometime after hearing about the huge fiasco.

[AlanC9]

wizardryforever wrote...

Yeah, not only is it impossible to please everybody, but some people just won't be happy with anything that comes out now.  See the appropriate entries for the Unpleasable Fanbase and RUINED FOREVER on TvTropes.

I kinda think that a little would go a long way for the EC, and they could end up hitting a home run with this.  One that shuts all but the most fanatical naysayers and pessimists up.  Given the amount of time they are taking on this, and the amount of press (even in mainstream media) this has received, I'd guess that EA and Bioware are scrambling to fix this.  There are a lot of little details that a simple one line of dialogue would clear up, and additional cutscenes are always nice.

Yeah, there's a lot of low-hanging fruit here -- particularly since a lot of fans have some pretty strange ideas about what happened in the endgame. For instance, the folks who think the Normandy is somehow lost forever on an unknown planet in the back end of nowhere.

(I better show my work there. The Normandy can't possibly be very lost. If Sol has a secondary relay, as seems likely from the Codex, then that world can't possibly be more than a few weeks flight away from Sol, since secondary relays don't take you very far. And if Sol's relay actually is a primary relay, then the planet they crashed on is well-known and certainly a major colony, since it's at the end of the only link out of Sol's local neighborhood)

It's the people who talk about how the ending is "thematically inconsistent" that will not be satisfied. Don't ask me how many of them there are. I can't even keep track of whether the problem is that the green and blue endings suggest that Saren and/or TIM were right all along and so betray Shepard's cause, or the problem is that the endings weren't related to anything in the game. Or are both of those supposed to be true at the same time?

Modifié par AlanC9, 18 mai 2012 - 05:21 .

[StElmo]

Tazzmission wrote...

StElmo wrote...



...the gaming media are going to poop on anyone who complains, sadly.

Why? Because anyone who is upset at the EC will look like a spoilt little brat, whining to mommy because he didn't get the christmas present he asked for.

to be fair though fans were labeled that basicly because alot of disgusting things were stated

that imopo is why gaming sites and media  even myself attacked the take back movment as a whole


if the new ec dlc dosent satisfy people ( and bioware even stated some fans may not be happy) those fans need to watch what they say because it takes one idiot to say something idiotic wich will affect others who dont share his or her statement


i mean cmon going to the ftc over a game is extreme dont you think?

Jim sterling actually bothered to look into the retake movement eventually, and discovered most of the people against the ending where pretty "cool" "collected" people.

[Cadence of the Planes]

VampireSoap wrote...

StElmo wrote...

VampireSoap wrote...

StElmo wrote...

God, I hope the EC rocks,

Logic dictates that a 10-minute video clip, which changes nothing of the original ending, is highly unlikely to "rock"

We'll see, I get the feeling it's going to be way more substantial.

If you are correct however, god help us all

I did say "highly unlikely", did I not? Calculating probability does not involve deities.

Calculating probability also involves calculation ("highly unlikely" is not a calculation, despite what you may think). Consult the internet or a basic statistics/science textbook if you'd like delineation. 

You may also want to familiarize yourself with the definition of "speculation."

Modifié par Cadence of the Planes, 18 mai 2012 - 05:12 .

[StElmo]

Arcian wrote...

StElmo wrote...



...the gaming media are going to poop on anyone who complains, sadly.

Why? Because anyone who is upset at the EC will look like a spoilt little brat, whining to mommy because he didn't get the christmas present he asked for.

If he gave his mom 80-150 dollars for that specific present and got something else than he paid for, then his whining is completely justified.

Gaming is an investment business, not a f***ing charity where you just take what you get and be happy with it.

I agree completely, however, the gaming media don't see it that way. Because the gaming media get their copies for free. See what I mean?

Modifié par StElmo, 18 mai 2012 - 05:07 .

[Cadence of the Planes]

GreyWarden36 wrote...

If it fails, I'll use my copy of ME3(collector's edition) as an ammo for my homemade disc launcher, and shoot it at the Grand Canyon. I'll post the video sometime after hearing about the huge fiasco.

Can you also email me blueprints? I've always wanted a home-made disk launcher ever since Steam, Good old games, and Origin came out.

[StElmo]

CrystalCircuit wrote...

True, but I doubt it'll fail. I think they know that they have to take this seriously.

Yep, I think this might be the case too.

[VampireSoap]

Cadence of the Planes wrote...

VampireSoap wrote...

I did say "highly unlikely", did I not? Calculating probability does not involve deities.

Calculating probability also involves calculation ("highly unlikely" is not a calculation, despite what you may think). Consult the internet or a basic statistics/science textbook if you'd like delineation. 

You may also want to familiarize yourself with the definition of "speculation."

My artistic integrity prevents me from showing you the entire complex calculation.

[The Razman]

The EC has already failed. The Retake movement isn't interested in anything but its outlandish vision of what they want the ending to be, and anything that Bioware does will be jumped upon as inadequete.

[Cadence of the Planes]

VampireSoap wrote...

Cadence of the Planes wrote...

VampireSoap wrote...

I did say "highly unlikely", did I not? Calculating probability does not involve deities.

Calculating probability also involves calculation ("highly unlikely" is not a calculation, despite what you may think). Consult the internet or a basic statistics/science textbook if you'd like delineation. 

You may also want to familiarize yourself with the definition of "speculation."

My artistic integrity prevents me from showing you the entire complex calculation.

Of course, but until then, you're speculating. 

Additionally, I've never seen a joke made using the words "artistic integrity" before. Other fresh, unused buzzwords to consider:

"space magic"
"red, green, and blue"
"choices matter"

I wonder what creative combos people can come up with!

[Cadence of the Planes]

The Razman wrote...

The EC has already failed. The Retake movement isn't interested in anything but its outlandish vision of what they want the ending to be, and anything that Bioware does will be jumped upon as inadequete.

Don't be so cynical! There are plenty of open-minded people.