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[The Razman]

Cadence of the Planes wrote...

The Razman wrote...

The EC has already failed. The Retake movement isn't interested in anything but its outlandish vision of what they want the ending to be, and anything that Bioware does will be jumped upon as inadequete.

Don't be so cynical! There are plenty of open-minded people.

BSN and open-minded aren't two words which adhere to each other.

[Shepard108278]

VampireSoap wrote...

StElmo wrote...

God, I hope the EC rocks,

Logic dictates that a 10-minute video clip, which changes nothing of the original ending, is highly unlikely to "rock"

That's the key right there the ending doesn't need changing IMO.

[VampireSoap]

Cadence of the Planes wrote...

The Razman wrote...

The
EC has already failed. The Retake movement isn't interested in anything
but its outlandish vision of what they want the ending to be, and
anything that Bioware does will be jumped upon as inadequete.

Don't be so cynical! There are plenty of open-minded people.

There is a difference between keeping an open mind and believing in something because you wish it to be true.

Modifié par VampireSoap, 18 mai 2012 - 05:32 .

[Cadence of the Planes]

The Razman wrote...

Cadence of the Planes wrote...

The Razman wrote...

The EC has already failed. The Retake movement isn't interested in anything but its outlandish vision of what they want the ending to be, and anything that Bioware does will be jumped upon as inadequete.

Don't be so cynical! There are plenty of open-minded people.

BSN and open-minded aren't two words which adhere to each other.

Good point- I was putting my money in the non-BSN people.

[Shepard108278]

The Razman wrote...

The EC has already failed. The Retake movement isn't interested in anything but its outlandish vision of what they want the ending to be, and anything that Bioware does will be jumped upon as inadequete.

*sigh* Sad but likely very true.

[VampireSoap]

Shepard108278 wrote...

VampireSoap wrote...

StElmo wrote...

God, I hope the EC rocks,

Logic dictates that a 10-minute video clip, which changes nothing of the original ending, is highly unlikely to "rock"

That's the key right there the ending doesn't need changing IMO.

This matter no longer concerns logic.

Modifié par VampireSoap, 18 mai 2012 - 05:35 .

[Metalrocks]

i have my doubts that the EC will change my mind. but if they really manage to clear things up and fill in the plot holes, then ok. but the ending still sucks like hell and they should change it, regardless artistic integrity.
but if the EC fails, i have wasted all my money and time in a franchise which had so much potential. i will delete the games and throw it away with a broken heart and try to pretend this game never existed.

[Cadence of the Planes]

VampireSoap wrote...

Shepard108278 wrote...

VampireSoap wrote...

StElmo wrote...

God, I hope the EC rocks,

Logic dictates that a 10-minute video clip, which changes nothing of the original ending, is highly unlikely to "rock"

That's the key right there the ending doesn't need changing IMO.

This matter no longer concerns logic.

Aaaah, the irony:happy:

[dirtdiver32318]

Sadly I have hope for the EC I still believe BW will do everything thy can to please its fans. Clarifying the ending to the max with no questions in the end. But as I said I still
Believe in BW. If in fact the EC is not good well my thoughts may change hahah.

[What?]

I just want the EC to allow my Shepard to move on with his LI and rebuild Earth with a bittersweet backdrop. Something like some of your buddies died (I could live with literally everyone but the two I brought to the downhill run dying), but you persevered and started to pick up the pieces. A scene with lots of crumbling ruins and modest graves that give way to little spots of hope, like families re-uniting, soldiers finding survivors in the rubble, and so forth. I didn't grind readiness for the 5000 EMS for nothing, darn it.

Of course, I don't expect the EC to deliver on this at all, and I understand because it is a bit idealistic. I'd settle for a search-and-rescue team with whomever Shepard brought with him to London finding him in the debris. But I'm bracing myself for a "lol this was all real gaiz" from Bioware. You know, pulling a Capcom and re-releasing Resident Evil in high-definition. Same crap, just a little prettier.

Modifié par VictorianTrash, 18 mai 2012 - 06:19 .

[WhiteKnyght]

StElmo wrote...



...the gaming media are going to poop on anyone who complains, sadly.

Why? Because anyone who is upset at the EC will look like a spoilt little brat, whining to mommy because he didn't get the christmas present he asked for.

They are going to be portrayed as a right dudley dursely and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

Except that the portion of the fanbase that hate the ending are ALREADY acting like that.

Truth be told, Bioware has been very generous ever since ME3 released. Every DLC since From Ashes has been free to download. Sacrificing profits because they want to see us happy.

Players should consider themselves lucky that Bioware is listening at all. They could have easily just ceased all development like they did with Dragon Age II after months of fan bashing. But they are going out of their way when they don't need to.

Really, what's a hundred-thousand complaints about last installment of a multi-million dollar franchise? It's not like they have to worry about anybody not buying ME4. And obviously Dragon Age and the other titles' developers cant be blamed for anything the ME team may or may not have done because they have their own ideas for their projects. Even if fans kept it up and Bioware was closed down by EA, all the devs would just be re-assigned to other areas or go work for different companies and continue their work. Nothing would really change.

So really, you're just bashing your head against a wall for nothing. At the end of the day, nothing will be different, except for you nursing a serious migraine.

[dirtdiver32318]

Hey as long as they keep making mass effect I'm good. besides it took years of the reapers to destroy the protheans. How do we destroy them in one shot there's more story here I just know it if not well. I'll move on to mass effect 4.

Modifié par dirtdiver32318, 18 mai 2012 - 06:20 .

[RaggieRags]

The word "clarify" is making me expect some sort of a hand-puppet show. Because unlike the reviewers, we are obviously just too slow on the uptake.

I'm afraid no matter how it turns out, it's going to be too little too late. Lots of people have already given up on ME.

[WhiteKnyght]

VampireSoap wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

VampireSoap wrote...

StElmo wrote...

God, I hope the EC rocks,

Logic dictates that a 10-minute video clip, which changes nothing of the original ending, is highly unlikely to "rock"

Logic dictates that a DLC this long in the making wouldn't just add a 10 minute video clip

Inquiry: How long did it take Bioware to create ME3? How long did it take you to finish your first ME3 playthrough?

Amount/Quality of Content VS. Resources VS. Numbers of people working

Creating ME3 required upgrading the existing engine, creating lots of new features like multiplayer from scratch, as well as creating and animating thousands of graphics(every second requires lots of different frames,) writing and coding the dialogue, events, as well as doing the cutscenes(which consist of writing, voices, music, and graphics), and betatesting to make sure their releases aren't as buggy as other companies like Bethesda.

3 months of work with all of the resources and numbers devoted to just one type of content can produce a lot of material.

[RukiaKuchki]

The point was raised above though about how long it's taking. I'm all for giving them as much time as possible to get it as right as it can be (they do, after all, have a lot of different opinions to cater to!), but I think that there is a finite window of opportunity here before people just get bored with waiting and move on, never to return. The problem with that is that future SP DLC will be treated with nonchalance, putting the profitability and therefore future of the ME franchise in jeopardy (at least in game form). This I don't want because I love it, I want to experience more adventures in this universe.

[WhiteKnyght]

RaggieRags wrote...

The word "clarify" is making me expect some sort of a hand-puppet show. Because unlike the reviewers, we are obviously just too slow on the uptake.

I'm afraid no matter how it turns out, it's going to be too little too late. Lots of people have already given up on ME.

And here's the punch-line. It doesn't matter cause ME3 is the end of the franchise. They could call it a day and they wouldn't lose anything.

But despite that, they're going out of their way for people like you.

[dirtdiver32318]

I thought me3 was the end of shepards story?

[RaggieRags]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

And here's the punch-line. It doesn't matter cause ME3 is the end of the franchise. They could call it a day and they wouldn't lose anything.

ME3 is not the end of the franchise, it's the end of this trilogy. There will be more stuff in the Mass Effect universe.

The Grey Nayr wrote...But despite that, they're going out of their way for people like you.

If they really did that, they'd stop acting like I was a retarded whiner and make a *new* ending.

[dirtdiver32318]

Ya I was poed about the end as the next person but we can't really make them change it because we all didn't like or agree with it. It is their project and maybe the EC DLC will explain. I think they should come out and comment if the IT is right or not kills me the facts and counter arguments about it god me why did you have to be so complex I play you to be in your world of less complexities ? That sounds stupid whatever I'm sticking with it lol

[MoonsKisu]

RaggieRags wrote...

The word "clarify" is making me expect some sort of a hand-puppet show. Because unlike the reviewers, we are obviously just too slow on the uptake.

I'm afraid no matter how it turns out, it's going to be too little too late. Lots of people have already given up on ME.

This.

Also, I find "clarify" slightly insulting. I understood the bs that I was served in the ending. I don't need it explained to me. I wish like heck that I enjoyed the endings and that it didn't leave me feeling like I had been punched in the gut. 

I love the ME universe and am continuing new play-throughs but the ending is always lurking there, waiting to deflate the enjoyment of the game.

[dirtdiver32318]

I stop and start a new game with another character when I have to run to the beam

[RaggieRags]

Frankly, if I could choose between the EC and Bioware admitting they screwed up and stop treating us like children, I'd choose the latter. Yes, the ending was bad and I have little faith any amount of explaining can fix it, but the biggest problem lies in the way how Bioware has managed to sour my 15-year relationship with them by their terrible PR and tactics.

[xrudix]

somebody still cares:huh:? there're much better projects out or will be soon like: tsw, d3, max, gw2

Modifié par xrudix, 18 mai 2012 - 07:33 .

[Random Geth]

Journalists are incompetent and judgemental. What else is new? Water is wet, the sky is blue, and the ending is a pathetic joke. EC won't fix this tripe, and fans will inevitably be mocked for an EXPLANATION of awful writing somehow not appeasing them. BioWare will continue to be condescending, and ME will eventually fade away as "that one series that was almost amazing".

[CptBomBom00]

HA, I don't really care if the EC sucks or not, besides there even more games coming out in summer and next year, so even if BW makes 'really' incredable DLC according to IGN, i don't think I will buy it, because I only bought ME3 to have complete trilogy and now is, anyway The games I'm waitning on are, GTA5,Halo4,Borderlands2,Fallout4 and few others.