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[feliciano2040]

TheRealJayDee wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

And I hope you realize is that no matter how much people dislike the ending of Mass Effect 3, it's arguably five minutes of a game that was well written and executed in absolutely every other way.

You serious?

Don't see why he wouldn't be.

[Shepard108278]

TheRealJayDee wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

And I hope you realize is that no matter how much people dislike the ending of Mass Effect 3, it's arguably five minutes of a game that was well written and executed in absolutely every other way.

You serious?

It's the truth so... except IMO the ending was well done too so IMO the whole game was well written and executed.

[TheRealJayDee]

Yeah, sorry, I guess I should have realized that some people don't know or don't care about things like face import and singleplayer/EMS fail, lots of grapic glitches or the completely broken journal. It's just that I find it kinda unbelievable that someone would call the game "well executed in every way". Sorry again, my bad.

Modifié par TheRealJayDee, 18 mai 2012 - 10:53 .

[Huntress]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

And I hope you realize is that no matter how much people dislike the ending of Mass Effect 3, it's arguably five minutes of a game that was well written and executed in absolutely every other way.

I would compare the protests about Mass Effect 3 to the planned protest against Sony awhile back. People complained a lot online beforehand, but when it came time to act, hardly anybody showed up at their stores, and half of those who did, ended up leaving after purchasing stuff.

It's real easy to b!tch and act tough online. But the ending haters would wimp out if ever called to meet publicly.

The problem is that IF the amount of players that are complaining about the end were lets say 5 cats, bioware and EA would have closed accounts like they did with DA2 ...until the hole thing blowed up their face, the real ball is, alot of players complained, not 5 cat not 100 cats but they were thousand of people all over the world wih 1 message: BAD ENDING.
So even if you like the end you are one, against all this people, you are +$60 dollards to bioware, they are -thousand of dollards to bioware. thats why the EC is going to be out in July.

[Shepard108278]

TheRealJayDee wrote...

Yeah, sorry, I guess I should have realized that some people don't know or don't care about things like face import and singleplayer/EMS fail, lots of grapic glitches or the completely broken journal. It's just that I find it kinda unbelievable that someone would call the game "well executed in every way". Sorry again, my bad.

Face import if a minor issue one I could care less about, the ems thing is no big deal since you can get the breath scene with 4000 ems and that is achievable without MP I do agree about the journal but again that's minor and I got no graphic issues at all so must be a random thing.

Modifié par Shepard108278, 19 mai 2012 - 02:19 .

[TheRealJayDee]

Shepard108278 wrote...

TheRealJayDee wrote...

Yeah, sorry, I guess I should have realized that some people don't know or don't care about things like face import and singleplayer/EMS fail, lots of grapic glitches or the completely broken journal. It's just that I find it kinda unbelievable that someone would call the game "well executed in every way". Sorry again, my bad.

Face import if a minor issue one I could care less about, the ems thing is no big deal since you can get the breath scene with 4000 ems and that is achievable without MP I do agree about the journal but again that's minor and I got no graphic issues at all so must be a random thing.

Well, how nice. Other people still aren't happy not being able to import their Shepard correctly, because they care about this. Minor issue in your eyes, rather major issue in other players' eyes.

Yeah, if you would spend a few minutes to check out one of the numerous threads on this topic you might realize that it is in fact NOT possible to get 4000 EMS through singleplayer alone. Singleplayer content not available through playing singelplayer is a major issue.

While I agree that the journal is probably not as big a problem as the two above it's still pretty unbelievable that they managed to basically ruin an important feature that worked perfectly fine for the last two games.

Congratulations on not experiencing/noticing graphic issues! (I'm dead serious here, I envy you)

In the end, however minor we might or might not think these flaws are, they are there and therefor I guess we can agree that "well executed in every way" just means that you were so happy with the rest of the game that you were willing/able to overlook them. Which is fine btw, 'twas just irritating for me.

[mauro2222]

TheRealJayDee wrote...

lots of graphic glitches

I still laugh at how Anderson runs, how the Cannibals go into cover, and how human husks stop running and then... proceed to run again.

[AlanC9]

Even if the journal was the same as ME2's it wouldn't be worth using -- the map's much more useful for delivering stuff on the Citadel. I'm guessing Bio never thought people would try to complete quests by working their way through the journal.

[Zamnil Blackaxe]

The gaming media you worry about OP, is to the field of Journalism as McDonalds is to high class dining. Cheap, easy and not worth it at all. So who cares? gaming media is basically just advertising anyway.

[Cyne]

StElmo wrote...



...the gaming media are going to poop on anyone who complains, sadly.

Why? Because anyone who is upset at the EC will look like a spoilt little brat, whining to mommy because he didn't get the christmas present he asked for.

They are going to be portrayed as a right dudley dursely and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

God, I hope the EC rocks, I couldn't stand more video game critics being condescending to ME fans, the lack of research or understanding of the issue is depressing.

I fully expect, and hope the EC will be good. I'm betting that it will be awesome. I just dread the potential articles that would come from a failure state - again, I think the EC will probably be good because there are a lot of things under wraps and no doubt we will all be surprised.

You're right, they'll stick us all with the label of "insatiable, entitled whiny brats" if it goes south, HOWEVER I fully expect, as you do, that that won't happen. It'll be a good ending; at the very least it'll be an improvement on the one we have now. That'll be enough for me.

[Reorte]

Cyne wrote...

You're right, they'll stick us all with the label of "insatiable, entitled whiny brats" if it goes south, HOWEVER I fully expect, as you do, that that won't happen. It'll be a good ending; at the very least it'll be an improvement on the one we have now. That'll be enough for me.

They can say what they like, if that's what they say without even bothering to consider the contents of the EC it will just fully confirm that gaming so-called "journalists" are a bunch of mindless idiots.

[Trebor1969]

Zamnil Blackaxe wrote...

The gaming media you worry about OP, is to the field of Journalism as McDonalds is to high class dining. Cheap, easy and not worth it at all. So who cares? gaming media is basically just advertising anyway.

+1

[Metalrocks]

would be nice if they add an patch to this DLC that will fix the journal. i gave up doing the side quests because it was utterly useless. cant understand how they can screw something up like this that worked fine through the first 2 games.

i would love if you can actually kick this retarded kids head in in the EC. that would make my day and makes far more sense then what we have got now.

[Killer3000ad]

I wish I could share the OP's enthusiasm, but I felt the same way about ME3 before it came out. After the fiasco of DA2, i fully believed that Bioware would not ruin ME3. I felt that even good companies can goof once in a while and DA2 appeared to be that once in a while goof, the same way A-list actors sometimes make the occassional bad movie.

Boy if you had asked me back before ME3 came out whether Bioware could screw ME3 up worse than DA2 I would called you a hater. But alas, it seems Bioware managed to do just that, and they came so close to making ME3 a worthy ending to the trilogy, up until the last 10 minutes.

[julio77777]

Actually if EC fails you can complain all you want you won't get more, EA isn't about to give you another free DLC, that's pretty much a certainty.
So basically if you're disappointed in EC (and given the official statement, there a really high probability a lot on these boards will be), the best thing you can do is move on, if you haven't already.
There will be other games, some better some worse.

[Necrotron]

What are the odds the extended cut will be awesome if it doesn't change the ending at all?

Honestly, I don't see where everyones' hope is coming from. I really want the extended cut to be good, but the whole 'no new endings' and 'no new choices' statement make it seem near impossible for it to be so, and it seems a bit silly to me to make a free DLC that doesn't address the reasons for the outcry in the first place.

Modifié par Bathaius, 19 mai 2012 - 03:43 .

[JaegerBane]

Killer3000ad wrote...
Boy if you had asked me back before ME3 came out whether Bioware could screw ME3 up worse than DA2 I would called you a hater. But alas, it seems Bioware managed to do just that, and they came so close to making ME3 a worthy ending to the trilogy, up until the last 10 minutes.

I wasn't a fan of the endings, either - for all the talk of 'artistic vision', it came across like the writers had JJ Abrams-itis and hadn't quite thought through how they were going to end their incredibile story. So they kind of just.... pulled the rug.

But I will say this - aside from the final 10 minutes, the game did a fantastic job of rounding out the trilogy and shouldn't really be compared to DA2.... which started failing almost as soon as the player was given control of Hawk. I can't see them going through the unpaid effort of releasing an EC DLC just to mess it all up - if they're bothering to do it, then odds are that it will go some way to fixing the endings, and thats enough for me for the moment. 

Modifié par JaegerBane, 19 mai 2012 - 03:54 .

[wizardryforever]

Basically, I'm of the opinion that whatever they do, they can't really make the ending even worse than it already is.  Even the pessimists can't really argue with that.  Clarification can only make it better.  How much better is a matter of opinion, but I've never really heard anyone argue that they like the vagueness of the current ending.  The vagueness is the main problem I have with it at this point.

[AlanC9]

I think it's still a theoretical possibility that the ending could be made worse. I've seen some truly awful ideas on this board.

Modifié par AlanC9, 19 mai 2012 - 05:23 .

[AlanC9]

Metalrocks wrote...

would be nice if they add an patch to this DLC that will fix the journal. i gave up doing the side quests because it was utterly useless.

Like I said a bit upthread, the map has anything you need to know marked on it. If you're using the journal, you're doing it wrong.

[The Spamming Troll]

AlanC9 wrote...

Metalrocks wrote...

would be nice if they add an patch to this DLC that will fix the journal. i gave up doing the side quests because it was utterly useless.

Like I said a bit upthread, the map has anything you need to know marked on it. If you're using the journal, you're doing it wrong.

id say change the game so i need to use a journal, then.

[AlanC9]

Why stop there? Let's go completely old-school. No map, no journal -- players have to write their own notes and draw their own maps.

[Shepard108278]

TheRealJayDee wrote...





Well, how nice. Other people still aren't happy not being able to import their Shepard correctly, because they care about this. Minor issue in your eyes, rather major issue in other players' eyes.

Fair enough.

Yeah, if you would spend a few minutes to check out one of the numerous threads on this topic you might realize that it is in fact NOT possible to get 4000 EMS through singleplayer alone. Singleplayer content not available through playing singelplayer is a major issue.

Um yeah it is because I did it on several occasions and no cheating.

While I agree that the journal is probably not as big a problem as the two above it's still pretty unbelievable that they managed to basically ruin an important feature that worked perfectly fine for the last two games.

That I'll agree with.

Congratulations on not experiencing/noticing graphic issues! (I'm dead serious here, I envy you)

I guess the right way to put it  was I saw a few but not a major issue IMO.

[Shepard108278]

Bathaius wrote...

What are the odds the extended cut will be awesome if it doesn't change the ending at all?

Honestly, I don't see where everyones' hope is coming from. I really want the extended cut to be good, but the whole 'no new endings' and 'no new choices' statement make it seem near impossible for it to be so, and it seems a bit silly to me to make a free DLC that doesn't address the reasons for the outcry in the first place.

Only in your's and the retakers mind. The ending is fine to some of us.

[mopotter]

AlanC9 wrote...

Someone with a lot of Bioware games shouldn't have been all that surprised by how ME3 ended, actually.

How do you figure this?  My past experience with their game endings is exactly why I was unprepared.  I've always had a feeling of hope after playing them.

KOTOR - two spearate endings that complete the game.  One heroic and one Sith
JE - two choices, I won't say what just in case there is someone who missed this gem of a game, but I knew why, how and what had given me these endings which were beautiful and tragic..
DA:O - number of endings some better than others.
DA:2 - Third act everyone is nuts, but at lease Hawke can have that heroic ending with friends and loved ones surviving.
ME1 - Absolutely Heroic ending with Shepard walking out of the smoky ruins  like hero's who just saved the galexy should.
ME2 -  Team members die or live based on Shepards choices.  Base is destroyed or not depending on your choices.  I loved the ending contemplating the dead and noding to the living.

None of these gave me any hints that ME3 would have the endings it did.  I trusted them.