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[BatmanTurian]

Rip504 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Are we allowing wild fan theory into evidence now?...

I'm becoming damn familiar of that kind of thread.

Wut? I think you mean that we use evidence to back up this fan theory.

:lol:
Lets just stop right there.

Theory-(Concerning IT) a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact. Synonyms: idea, notion hypothesis, postulate. Antonyms: practice, verification, corroboration, substantiation.- dictionary.reference.com/browse/theory

Evidence-
[color=rgb(51, 51, 51)">that which tends to prove or disprove something]belief;[/color] proof.- dictionary.reference.com/browse/evidence

yes theory, hypothesis, and interpretation are interchangable in common parlance.

[BatmanTurian]

hoodaticus wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Ji99saw wrote...

So you are interpreting the very last Text of the game did not happen? lol And Stargazer never happend either lol

Well i'm intepreting that both of you two arguments are stupid

The text said DLC in it so it's an out of story message telling you that DLC will expand the story. Interpretation: Shepard defeated the reaper threat.... in his head;)

Of course stargazer happened. Fianl Hours App:

"The Stargazer scene concept was taken from a seventh grade student from Berlin who sent a letter to Casey Hudson.
The boy stated that "It would be cool if Shepard had a child and this child was roaming around a cave and found a prophecy and knew what to do about it because he's Shepard's son."

Casey Hudson stitched that letter to his office door as a reminder that everybody should get at least, one piece of the ending which was the same for every player."

Totally tootlely derpy derp.  Derp crawling out of the woodwork!  Next they'll be finding arguments against IT in the installation screen.... of another game... in a different genre.

Yes, using the DLC message is totally legit

[balance5050]

hoodaticus wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Ji99saw wrote...

So you are interpreting the very last Text of the game did not happen? lol And Stargazer never happend either lol

Well i'm intepreting that both of you two arguments are stupid

The text said DLC in it so it's an out of story message telling you that DLC will expand the story. Interpretation: Shepard defeated the reaper threat.... in his head;)

Of course stargazer happened. Fianl Hours App:

"The Stargazer scene concept was taken from a seventh grade student from Berlin who sent a letter to Casey Hudson.
The boy stated that "It would be cool if Shepard had a child and this child was roaming around a cave and found a prophecy and knew what to do about it because he's Shepard's son."

Casey Hudson stitched that letter to his office door as a reminder that everybody should get at least, one piece of the ending which was the same for every player."

Totally tootlely derpy derp.  Derp crawling out of the woodwork!  Next they'll be finding arguments against IT in the installation screen.... of another game... in a different genre.

HAHA! I know right? Remember when we were the one "grasping at straws"?

[hoodaticus]

Rip504 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Are we allowing wild fan theory into evidence now?...

I'm becoming damn familiar of that kind of thread.

Wut? I think you mean that we use evidence to back up this fan theory.

:lol:
Lets just stop right there.
Theory-(Concerning IT) a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact. Synonyms: idea, notion hypothesis, postulate. Antonyms: practice, verification, corroboration, substantiation.-

dictionary.reference.com/browse/theory

Evidence-
that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof.- dictionary.reference.com/browse/evidence

Any fact that makes a proposition more or less likely to be true is evidence of that proposition.  Every fact cited by IT proponents in support of the theory meets this definition.

The fact that indoctrination technology was used to control you less than 5 minutes before you met Justin Bieber is probative of whether you were indoctrinated during the Justin Beiber scene.  An object in motion stays in motion and all that.

What you lack is any evidence whatsoever that the facts we have proffered are not probative of the truth of IT.

While IT is a theory with about a hundred pieces of evidentiary support, the argument against IT is a mere hypothesis by comparison.

Modifié par hoodaticus, 17 mai 2012 - 11:39 .

[balance5050]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Are we allowing wild fan theory into evidence now?...

I'm becoming damn familiar of that kind of thread.

Wut? I think you mean that we use evidence to back up this fan theory.

:lol:
Lets just stop right there.

Theory-(Concerning IT) a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact. Synonyms: idea, notion hypothesis, postulate. Antonyms: practice, verification, corroboration, substantiation.- dictionary.reference.com/browse/theory

Evidence-
[color=rgb(51, 51, 51)">that which tends to prove or disprove something]belief;[/color] proof.- dictionary.reference.com/browse/evidence

yes theory, hypothesis, and interpretation are interchangable in common parlance.

Again with the semantics.... Why does it insult them that we have a theory/hypothesis/interpretation?

Modifié par balance5050, 17 mai 2012 - 11:38 .

[BatmanTurian]

hoodaticus wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Are we allowing wild fan theory into evidence now?...

I'm becoming damn familiar of that kind of thread.

Wut? I think you mean that we use evidence to back up this fan theory.

:lol:
Lets just stop right there.
Theory-(Concerning IT) a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact. Synonyms: idea, notion hypothesis, postulate. Antonyms: practice, verification, corroboration, substantiation.-

dictionary.reference.com/browse/theory

Evidence-
that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof.- dictionary.reference.com/browse/evidence

Any fact that makes a proposition more or less likely to be true is evidence of that proposition.  Every fact cited by IT proponents in support of the theory meets this definition.

The fact that indoctrination technology was used to control you less than 5 minutes before you met Justin Bieber is probative of whether you were indoctrinated during the Justin Beiber scene.  An object in motion stays in motion and all that.

What you lack is any evidence whatsoever that the facts we have proffered are not probative of the truth of IT.

While IT is a theory with about a hundred pieces of evidentiary support, the argument against IT is a mere hypothesis by comparison,

I think Rip is on our side or at least being neutral.

[balance5050]

BatmanTurian wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Are we allowing wild fan theory into evidence now?...

I'm becoming damn familiar of that kind of thread.

Wut? I think you mean that we use evidence to back up this fan theory.

:lol:
Lets just stop right there.
Theory-(Concerning IT) a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact. Synonyms: idea, notion hypothesis, postulate. Antonyms: practice, verification, corroboration, substantiation.-

dictionary.reference.com/browse/theory

Evidence-
that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof.- dictionary.reference.com/browse/evidence

Any fact that makes a proposition more or less likely to be true is evidence of that proposition.  Every fact cited by IT proponents in support of the theory meets this definition.

The fact that indoctrination technology was used to control you less than 5 minutes before you met Justin Bieber is probative of whether you were indoctrinated during the Justin Beiber scene.  An object in motion stays in motion and all that.

What you lack is any evidence whatsoever that the facts we have proffered are not probative of the truth of IT.

While IT is a theory with about a hundred pieces of evidentiary support, the argument against IT is a mere hypothesis by comparison,

I think Rip is on our side or at least being neutral.

He's still uselessly arguing semantics....

[BatmanTurian]

balance5050 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Are we allowing wild fan theory into evidence now?...

I'm becoming damn familiar of that kind of thread.

Wut? I think you mean that we use evidence to back up this fan theory.

:lol:
Lets just stop right there.
Theory-(Concerning IT) a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact. Synonyms: idea, notion hypothesis, postulate. Antonyms: practice, verification, corroboration, substantiation.-

dictionary.reference.com/browse/theory

Evidence-
that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof.- dictionary.reference.com/browse/evidence

Any fact that makes a proposition more or less likely to be true is evidence of that proposition.  Every fact cited by IT proponents in support of the theory meets this definition.

The fact that indoctrination technology was used to control you less than 5 minutes before you met Justin Bieber is probative of whether you were indoctrinated during the Justin Beiber scene.  An object in motion stays in motion and all that.

What you lack is any evidence whatsoever that the facts we have proffered are not probative of the truth of IT.

While IT is a theory with about a hundred pieces of evidentiary support, the argument against IT is a mere hypothesis by comparison,

I think Rip is on our side or at least being neutral.

He's still uselessly arguing semantics....

Ji99saw is. Rip is just clarifying, I think.

[Xellith]

The ending thats not released yet will make some people angry. Namely those who picked wrong

[balance5050]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Ji99saw is. Rip is just clarifying, I think.

He thinks IT is a joke FYI.

[BatmanTurian]

Xellith wrote...

The ending thats not released yet will make some people angry. Namely those who picked wrong

And TBH, it could be any ending or none of them.

[Ji99saw]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Ji99saw wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Ji99saw wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Ji99saw wrote...


And i'm saying I don't agree. Intpretation  is what you take away from the elements presnted and I'm saying the IT adds elements that were not presented I don't see why it's difficult to understand why it falls under Fan Fiction. I'm not going to agree with you and any creditbility you had is completly lost with me so i'm not going to waste my time to give my perspective because blind fate in the IT seems to work for you.

What elements does it add? Indoctrination has been in the ME universe since day 1.

IT states that the battle is in his head and IM and Anderson are part of him when anderson gets shot shepard has a physical effect yet when IM is shot there is no effect. So it worked for one and not the other? (adding elements) at the end of the game Stargazer said tha Shepard stop the reapers IT says reaper are still a threat. (removing elements) There is text at the end of the game that says Shepard has stoped the Reaper threat IT says thats not true.(removing elements). You can not add or remove elements which means IT= Fan Fiction

That's all just an interpretation of what's already there.

So you are interpreting the very last Text of the game did not happen? lol And Stargazer never happend either lol

Well i'm intepreting that both of you two arguments are stupid

The very last text of the game is 4th wall like pressing a to open a door.. It tells you to buy DLC fergodssake. You look more and more stupid the more you post.

Once again i'm interpreting that you two are morons going so far as contridict the Phrase "Comander Shepard has become a legend by ending the reaper threat". 4th wall just means talking to the audience which is another attempt at a red herring fallacy, but of course i'm the stupid one for not trying to change the last text of the game

[balance5050]

Ji99saw wrote...

Once again i'm interpreting that you two are morons going so far as contridict the Phrase "Comander Shepard has become a legend by ending the reaper threat". 4th wall just means talking to the audience which is another attempt at a red herring fallacy, but of course i'm the stupid one for not trying to change the last text of the game

Comander Shepard has become a legend by ending the reaper threat.... in his head.

Not changing it, just interpreting it differently.

Modifié par balance5050, 17 mai 2012 - 11:48 .

[BatmanTurian]

Ji99saw wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Ji99saw wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Ji99saw wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Ji99saw wrote...


And i'm saying I don't agree. Intpretation  is what you take away from the elements presnted and I'm saying the IT adds elements that were not presented I don't see why it's difficult to understand why it falls under Fan Fiction. I'm not going to agree with you and any creditbility you had is completly lost with me so i'm not going to waste my time to give my perspective because blind fate in the IT seems to work for you.

What elements does it add? Indoctrination has been in the ME universe since day 1.

IT states that the battle is in his head and IM and Anderson are part of him when anderson gets shot shepard has a physical effect yet when IM is shot there is no effect. So it worked for one and not the other? (adding elements) at the end of the game Stargazer said tha Shepard stop the reapers IT says reaper are still a threat. (removing elements) There is text at the end of the game that says Shepard has stoped the Reaper threat IT says thats not true.(removing elements). You can not add or remove elements which means IT= Fan Fiction

That's all just an interpretation of what's already there.

So you are interpreting the very last Text of the game did not happen? lol And Stargazer never happend either lol

Well i'm intepreting that both of you two arguments are stupid

The very last text of the game is 4th wall like pressing a to open a door.. It tells you to buy DLC fergodssake. You look more and more stupid the more you post.

Once again i'm interpreting that you two are morons going so far as contridict the Phrase "Comander Shepard has become a legend by ending the reaper threat". 4th wall just means talking to the audience which is another attempt at a red herring fallacy, but of course i'm the stupid one for not trying to change the last text of the game

No you're stupid for interpreting a 4th wall message with DLC mentioned as proof that the endings are real. In multiplayer, am I to assume my commander addressing me awarded me something called XP Points so that I can train powers? Am I to assume that when I press RS my Shep is actually looking at a map? I mean, really?

[MisterJB]

Well, at least you remain consistent to the spirit of IT by seeing things that are not there.

[hoodaticus]

balance5050 wrote...

Ji99saw wrote...

Once again i'm interpreting that you two are morons going so far as contridict the Phrase "Comander Shepard has become a legend by ending the reaper threat". 4th wall just means talking to the audience which is another attempt at a red herring fallacy, but of course i'm the stupid one for not trying to change the last text of the game

Comander Shepard has become a legend by ending the reaper threat.... in his head.

Not changing it, just interpreting it differently.

And Shepard must purchase downloads from Bioware or else time will stop.  This is the most game-changing fact in the series!

Speculations for everyone!

[Ji99saw]

balance5050 wrote...

Ji99saw wrote...

Once again i'm interpreting that you two are morons going so far as contridict the Phrase "Comander Shepard has become a legend by ending the reaper threat". 4th wall just means talking to the audience which is another attempt at a red herring fallacy, but of course i'm the stupid one for not trying to change the last text of the game

Comander Shepard has become a legend by ending the reaper threat.... in his head.

Not changing it, just interpreting it differently.

Stop just Stop lol, Where does it say in his head? And in his head doen't " Stop the reaper threat".

[balance5050]

hoodaticus wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Ji99saw wrote...

Once again i'm interpreting that you two are morons going so far as contridict the Phrase "Comander Shepard has become a legend by ending the reaper threat". 4th wall just means talking to the audience which is another attempt at a red herring fallacy, but of course i'm the stupid one for not trying to change the last text of the game

Comander Shepard has become a legend by ending the reaper threat.... in his head.

Not changing it, just interpreting it differently.

And Shepard must purchase downloads from Bioware or else time will stop.  This is the most game-changing fact in the series!

Speculations for everyone!

Yeah, no matter how you look at it, DLC is the last word of the trilogy. Either way my legend is incomplete.

[hoodaticus]

MisterJB wrote...

Well, at least you remain consistent to the spirit of IT by seeing things that are not there.

What I don't see is what the heck you're referring to.

[balance5050]

Ji99saw wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Ji99saw wrote...

Once again i'm interpreting that you two are morons going so far as contridict the Phrase "Comander Shepard has become a legend by ending the reaper threat". 4th wall just means talking to the audience which is another attempt at a red herring fallacy, but of course i'm the stupid one for not trying to change the last text of the game

Comander Shepard has become a legend by ending the reaper threat.... in his head.

Not changing it, just interpreting it differently.

Stop just Stop lol, Where does it say in his head? And in his head doen't " Stop the reaper threat".

It was a mental threat, now we have to buy DLC to expand the legend.

[estebanus]

MisterJB wrote...

Well, at least you remain consistent to the spirit of IT by seeing things that are not there.

And you think that things that are there aren't there.

[hoodaticus]

The thing is, Shepard's a hacker. If he was aware that he was in a pluggable software architecture, he probably could have just deleted the Reapers. And replaced them with Battle ******.

Fourth-wall-breaking advertisements are not canon.

DERP

[BatmanTurian]

hoodaticus wrote...

The thing is, Shepard's a hacker. If he was aware that he was in a pluggable software architecture, he probably could have just deleted the Reapers. And replaced them with Battle ******.

Fourth-wall-breaking advertisements are not canon.

DERP

"ASSUMING DIRECT CONT-"

" No. I just hacked you and you're going to show me Battle ******. "

" THIS HURTS ME. "

" Double nice. "

[hoodaticus]

BatmanTurian wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...

The thing is, Shepard's a hacker. If he was aware that he was in a pluggable software architecture, he probably could have just deleted the Reapers. And replaced them with Battle ******.

Fourth-wall-breaking advertisements are not canon.

DERP

"ASSUMING DIRECT CONT-"

" No. I just hacked you and you're going to show me Battle ******. "

" THIS HURTS ME. "

" Double nice. "

This.

[balance5050]

hoodaticus wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

hoodaticus wrote...

The thing is, Shepard's a hacker. If he was aware that he was in a pluggable software architecture, he probably could have just deleted the Reapers. And replaced them with Battle ******.

Fourth-wall-breaking advertisements are not canon.

DERP

"ASSUMING DIRECT CONT-"

" No. I just hacked you and you're going to show me Battle ******. "

" THIS HURTS ME. "

" Double nice. "

This.

lulz:lol: