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[TsaiMeLemoni]

ZackG312 wrote...

TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

It might have something to do with people having to interject the IT into every post about the ending. Or every post on Facebook. Or every post on Twitter. Or some posts on the MP section. Or posts on 4Ch....

This. And the fact that there are plenty of ITers that seem to ferverently believe that IT is the absolute truth, and to not believe in it is heresy and they share this opinion with zeal.

Same can be said about people who hate IT, they start throwing insults around. That if you believe in it you are a nut job.

And? You're asking for why some people dislike the majority of the IT Crowd, and here it is. There are ****s on every side of the fence.

[shepskisaac]

David7204 wrote...

This thing will all be over soon.

One way...or another.

[mango smoothie]

I don't hate it I just feel that there are better ways to fix the ending. If you support it great for you, I just don't.

Modifié par mango smoothie, 17 mai 2012 - 08:09 .

[Gold Dragon]

Because Indoctrination removes the subject's ability to think for themselves (Vigil from ME 1) when done quickly makes me think that the "IT" is wrong.

[Bill Casey]

Shepard fights Reapers. Reapers indoctrinate people...
Shepard is standing in outer space talking to the Reaper King who is also the child from his recurring dreams and now the Catalyst. Shepard is standing on a giant dialogue wheel, two of the three choices are Reaper doctrine, and all of the choices are activated metaphorically...

And they've pulled this **** before with the Elder Brain...

[UrgentArchengel]

Gexora wrote...

I don't like the IT because of it's fans. I say that I don't believe in it and just try to have a nice discussion with other people who do not - but nooo, ITists have to come in my thread/feed/whatever and say YOU ARE WRONG CAUSE IT
doesn't matter if it's ending debate or discussing Vega's ass. It can't be helped. It's annoying as hell

.

That would be like me saying I hate Mass Effect or Halo because of it's fans.  Just because a few of the fans a f***ing aholes doesn't mean you should put the whole thing off all together.  Just because my mom hates Canadians (I don't know why.) but she still loves hockey.  Basically, I am not saying you have to absolutely believe this IT crap, just don't shallowly put it off because of a few idiots that wanted to ****** somebody off or whatever.

[balance5050]

LucasShark wrote...

I get quite annoyed when I'm called stupid by IT idiots. Despite the fact that most of what I've seen from all IT believers is nothing more than fantasy and confirmation bias.

Hypocrisy is unbecoming my friend. You're annoyed that you get called stupid and then call a whole group of people idiots in the same sentence. 

Tsk... tsk... tsk.

[MisterJB]

I would be more accepting of IT if the people who supported it stopped trying to render invalid two of the ending's choices.

[balance5050]

mango smoothie wrote...

I don't hate it I just feel that there are better ways to fix the ending. If you support it great for you, I just don't.

What better ways?

[Taboo]

My ass hurts again.

[balance5050]

MisterJB wrote...

I would be more accepting of IT if the people who supported it stopped trying to render invalid two of the ending's choices.

Control- 

The reapers LOVE to control, it's what they are all about. They have left technology scattered around the galaxy in order to control our evolutionary path, they control our future by forcing the most advanced civilizations to become them, there is practically NO aspect of life that they don't control in one way or another

Synthesis-

The reapers have always regarded themselves as the most advanced civilization, they ARE the prime example of synthesis, it's not pretty. They ARE the alpha predator and DON'T consider pure organics or pure synthetics to be anything more than fuel or nuisances. They believe that synthesis is the best evolutionary model to live by.

Destroy- 

One thing the Catalyst says that rings true is they DO preserve life, they let organics live simply because they need us for survival, to destroy is to create chaos, but out of that chaos rises freedom, a new beginning, and infinite possibilities.

To believe that either control or synthesis is the answer is to agree with the reapers, which opens the door for them to exploit that side of your psyche, convincing you that siding with the reapers is a better solution than destroying them.  

[ZackG312]

MisterJB wrote...

I would be more accepting of IT if the people who supported it stopped trying to render invalid two of the ending's choices.

Just replay the last stage.

[TsaiMeLemoni]

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Gexora wrote...

I don't like the IT because of it's fans. I say that I don't believe in it and just try to have a nice discussion with other people who do not - but nooo, ITists have to come in my thread/feed/whatever and say YOU ARE WRONG CAUSE IT
doesn't matter if it's ending debate or discussing Vega's ass. It can't be helped. It's annoying as hell

.

That would be like me saying I hate Mass Effect or Halo because of it's fans.  Just because a few of the fans a f***ing aholes doesn't mean you should put the whole thing off all together.  Just because my mom hates Canadians (I don't know why.) but she still loves hockey.  Basically, I am not saying you have to absolutely believe this IT crap, just don't shallowly put it off because of a few idiots that wanted to ****** somebody off or whatever.

I would wager that those who disagree with IT have already dismissed it on it's own merits, but the hate, anger, and animosity is generated by members of the IT Crowd who are trying to supplant everyone else's opinion with their own.

Modifié par TsaiMeLemoni, 17 mai 2012 - 08:18 .

[jtav]

But we don't want to replay the last stage. We like Synthesis and Control, damn it!

[kookie28]

balance5050 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

I would be more accepting of IT if the people who supported it stopped trying to render invalid two of the ending's choices.

Control- 

The reapers LOVE to control, it's what they are all about. They have left technology scattered around the galaxy in order to control our evolutionary path, they control our future by forcing the most advanced civilizations to become them, there is practically NO aspect of life that they don't control in one way or another

Synthesis-

The reapers have always regarded themselves as the most advanced civilization, they ARE the prime example of synthesis, it's not pretty. They ARE the alpha predator and DON'T consider pure organics or pure synthetics to be anything more than fuel or nuisances. They believe that synthesis is the best evolutionary model to live by.

Destroy- 

One thing the Catalyst says that rings true is they DO preserve life, they let organics live simply because they need us for survival, to destroy is to create chaos, but out of that chaos rises freedom, a new beginning, and infinite possibilities.

To believe that either control or synthesis is the answer is to agree with the reapers, which opens the door for them to exploit that side of your psyche, convincing you that siding with the reapers is a better solution than destroying them.  

Assumptions.  ASSUMPTIONS EVERYWHERE.

[Bill Casey]

Two of the three choices are already invalid...
They are things Reapers brainwash people to believe...
They are narrative breaking...

[balance5050]

TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Gexora wrote...

I don't like the IT because of it's fans. I say that I don't believe in it and just try to have a nice discussion with other people who do not - but nooo, ITists have to come in my thread/feed/whatever and say YOU ARE WRONG CAUSE IT
doesn't matter if it's ending debate or discussing Vega's ass. It can't be helped. It's annoying as hell

.

That would be like me saying I hate Mass Effect or Halo because of it's fans.  Just because a few of the fans a f***ing aholes doesn't mean you should put the whole thing off all together.  Just because my mom hates Canadians (I don't know why.) but she still loves hockey.  Basically, I am not saying you have to absolutely believe this IT crap, just don't shallowly put it off because of a few idiots that wanted to ****** somebody off or whatever.

I would wager that those who do not disagree with IT have already dismissed it on it's own merits, but the hate, anger, and animosity is generated by members of the IT Crowd who are trying to supplant everyone else's opinion with their own.

It'ers are usually a pretty happy bunch, it's in stark contrast to the rage machine that fuels other parts of the forum.

[UrgentArchengel]

MisterJB wrote...

I would be more accepting of IT if the people who supported it stopped trying to render invalid two of the ending's choices.

Just because you chose control or synthesis, it doesn't have to mean GAME OVER.  IT is what you make of it, as long as it includes Shepard and Reaper Indoctrination.

[CroGamer002]

mango smoothie wrote...

I don't hate it I just feel that there are better ways to fix the ending. If you support it great for you, I just don't.

Well, I'm more Renegade then you in case of IT.

[balance5050]

jtav wrote...

But we don't want to replay the last stage. We like Synthesis and Control, damn it!

So do the reapers, they also like to indoctrinate people.

[MisterJB]

ZackG312 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

I would be more accepting of IT if the people who supported it stopped trying to render invalid two of the ending's choices.

Just replay the last stage.

See, here is evidence of the absolute worst that IT has spawned. The absolute arrogance and self-righteousness.
I like Synthesis and feel no need to replay the last stage, thank you very much.

[Taboo]

Arcian wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

My ass hurts again.

That's what ya' get for messin' with mah sentry, chump.

I'll sap your sentry.

Then eat a sandwitch that I stole from a Russian.

[Warp92]

I picked destroy and I don't believe in IT. I picked destroy because that's what I've been trying to do for the better part of the trilogy.

[ZackG312]

MisterJB wrote...

ZackG312 wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

I would be more accepting of IT if the people who supported it stopped trying to render invalid two of the ending's choices.

Just replay the last stage.

See, here is evidence of the absolute worst that IT has spawned. The absolute arrogance and self-righteousness.
I like Synthesis and feel no need to replay the last stage, thank you very much.

I posted before that I dont beleive in IT. but it is fun to read

And that was a joke didnt you see the smiley face