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[Bloodhound66]

So... Ever since i beat the game, (and discovered the less-than-satisfactory finish to a war i was expecting to end with comrades (sp?) and unification of allied fleets) ive been trying to find a good source to explain the creative process for the ending. That should be easy enough for a team who's main defense against this backlash is their own "artistic integrity." Artists should be able to EASILY explain what they were thinking/feeling at the time they created their art or where the influence came from. However, BW hasn't given us so much as a hint as to who even wrote the ending or where this random casper kid came from. (ya, ya, I know about the light beings from the codex. Still, a codex page from game 1 doesnt excuse his abrupt disruption to the flow of the story)

Anyways, ive tweeted member like chris priestly and patrick weekes numerous times in regards to ME. I've praised them, bioware, ME, defended ME saying that the ending can easily be overlooked (i'm as disappointed as the worst trolls on these forums, still i like to be polite) and that a lot of the things being said about BW are just ridiculous.

I never got too much of a response, other than maybe a "thanks! Glad ur enjoying it!" And I NEVER got a response when it was in regards to any sort of critisizm or inquiry about the end. Its been 2.5 months of this backlash and still all of BW refuses to elaborate on the ending any further than "EC DLC is coming and we're defending our artistic integrity." Any request to any insight behind how they came up with such an unsuited ending has been ignored. (and i know im not the only one with these questions)

Well today chris priestly tweeted "what convention should BW be at that we don't usually attend?"

I found it ironic that he asked a question about where we would like BW to represent themselves to us (the fans) when we know that the big question on everyones mind is going to be ignored. So, somewhat frustrated at this point, i responded "whichever one gets EAware to talk about why the ending has to contradict the series in the name of artistic integrity" followed by, "ps: thats not an attack. I really want to know WHY bioware thought that was the best ending."

Well, i got a hasty response from @bioevilchris saying, "good talking with you. Even better blocking you. Bye!"

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So legitimately inquiring about the creative process behind an ending that has been unanimously voted as "unfit" or at the very least "unsatisfactory" is enough to make a bioware community representitive actually permanently block me? despite my numerous praises of the very same game and the BW staff and me defending the game against people who say the ending cometely ruined the whole series.

I would just like to say to Chris Priestly and the rest of the EA/BW reps who refuse to discuss a simple topic, even in an honest and purely Q+A manner...

GROW SOME F-ING BALLS! YOUR A COMPLETE AND TOTAL NANCY-BOY! 

The first response i get to something people have been wondering since they beat the game was met with sarcasm and a block. I can tell that this is a company that really cares about its fans and community. 

On an unrelated note, whats the trade in value on ME3? As I doubt EC will be worth the wait and i don't want to look at a logo with the words EA or BIOWARE ever again.

[Flyprdu]

In before lock

[Bloodhound66]

I wouldnt be suprised if i was banned entirely. These folks at EA/BW are SENSITIVE...

[Nimpe]

Honestly, this was cool a week after the game came out. Take your hatred to the forums of the newest game release or something.

[clarkusdarkus]

quick mention the ending so it doesnt get locked......

[TsaiMeLemoni]

All the BW people on Twitter have been very open about their refusal to discuss the endings, and after several trollish/incessant posts, were very open about banning anyone who continued to bring up just the endings.

Are you really surprised you got banned when you went and did exactly what they said would get you banned?

[NUM13ER]

You seem a little too annoyed that someone chose to block you from their twitter account when you were being passive aggressive. Then you come on here to respond to being blocked by calling said person a nancy boy whilst somehow claiming you're a reasonable man.

Modifié par NUM13ER, 17 mai 2012 - 08:49 .

[Bloodhound66]

Hey nimpe ive been scanning forums for the last 2 months but i got blocked by chris priestly today so why don't you go suck a fart out of someones ass and screw off, k?

[Nimpe]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

quick mention the ending so it doesnt get locked......

I see your ending discussion and raise you two artistic integrity's and a bashing of Casey Hudson so the thread will be locked for off topic.

[NoSpin]

You shouldn't blatantly go after Bioware employees, as about 99% are sworn to secrecy (at the risk of losing their jobs) and they had absolutely no fault in crafting the ending. Ask Mac and Casey the hard questions, the rest are just honest people trying to do their jobs.

[darkchief10]

they're under a lot of stress, especially chris, don't really blame them, but still, some clarification would be nice

[arial]

Bloodhound66 wrote...

Hey nimpe ive been scanning forums for the last 2 months but i got blocked by chris priestly today so why don't you go suck a fart out of someones ass and screw off, k?

...how mature...

[Bloodhound66]

I think its pretty lame that the ending is considered off limits by the people who are supposed to represent the company to the fans. And i've been polite in questioning the ending previously. I was passive aggressive due to being annoyed that they want to hold a convention to answer questions no one really cares about and avoid the ones they do.

[eddieoctane]

There's a right and a wrong way to go about the discussion. But when BioWare refuses to even discuss their motivations behind the ending, they plant themselves firmly on the wrong side of things. Most artists will actually talk about what they were trying to accomplish in a given work. BioWare won't, so I have a very hard time treating them as artists. Asking what conventions BioWare should go to, when the major questions at said conventions will undoubtedly revolved around the ending feels rather insulting, though.

[Nimpe]

Bloodhound66 wrote...

Hey nimpe ive been scanning forums for the last 2 months but i got blocked by chris priestly today so why don't you go suck a fart out of someones ass and screw off, k?

No wonder Chris blocked you. Why are you so shocked that your twitter message that included nothing but a smartass quip got you blocked? Better yet, why do you think we care?

[NUM13ER]

darkchief10 wrote...
they're under a lot of stress, especially chris, don't really blame them, but still, some clarification would be nice

You know I was very disappointed by the ending but I do feel very sorry for individuals getting constant grief for it especially when I believe the ending was certainly not a group decision. 

[Bloodhound66]

Ps i know im being somewhat immature but its the internet and im allowed to get frustrated and post things against a company if said company annoys me. If u disagree or think im an idiot for doing so great, it wasnt my point to give you an intelligent read, but to vent and vent alone.

[ShepnTali]

Apparently you aren't a worthy fan, polite or not.

[darkchief10]

Bloodhound66 wrote...

I think its pretty lame that the ending is considered off limits by the people who are supposed to represent the company to the fans. And i've been polite in questioning the ending previously. I was passive aggressive due to being annoyed that they want to hold a convention to answer questions no one really cares about and avoid the ones they do.

well getting angry isn't going to help much, what would you if you were constantly bugged about something you had no real control off, as many people have said, direct your anger to walters and hudson, who wrote such bad ending. the rest of bioware have signed confidentiallity agreements, getting mad at them won't solve anything.

[RoamerZA]

If someone like Bill Carter did a book on the true story behind what happened to our beloved franchise I'd buy it, and I think your question is certainly one I have pondered over.
Of course, artistic integrity does not mean it is good art.

I don't think you were sarcastic, but were probably bundled with everyone else answering the question in a less civil way.
Problem is if BW send a response like that to a good chunk of the seriously curious fanbase, it is a great way of ensuring they'll never buy one of your products again. Don't know why Chris did not just ignore you and leave it at that, like they do with most of the questions on this forum!

[ShepnTali]

For those representing a company, a silent block would be fine. Being snippy, not so much. That's for forum users.

[Iwillbeback]

That was a tame comment, they're just too goddamn emotional about the game.

Its crap, deal with it.

[Dont Kaidan Me]

eddieoctane wrote...

There's a right and a wrong way to go about the discussion. But when BioWare refuses to even discuss their motivations behind the ending, they plant themselves firmly on the wrong side of things. Most artists will actually talk about what they were trying to accomplish in a given work. BioWare won't, so I have a very hard time treating them as artists. Asking what conventions BioWare should go to, when the major questions at said conventions will undoubtedly revolved around the ending feels rather insulting, though.

^ Yes. I have a hard time believeing that Bioware is footloose and fancy free though. If they have to answer to EA, their jobs owned by EA, being muzzled isn't a far stretch.

[Bloodhound66]

@eddieoctane

My point exactly. Its insulting for bw to continually ask for our feedback when they juat ignore it anyways. And i want clarification from someone who knows or can provide an accurate breakdown of how and they decided to end the game that way. I didn't think that's entirely unreasonable. Ans if they keep hearing it OVER AND OVER to the point where it gets u blocked then why dont they simply ANSWER and be done with it?

[TheDarkestofPoets]

What can men do against such reckless hate?