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[sirchet]

I was just curious as to what percent of us can't even play the game we bought now.

Myself, I spent a little over $80 USD on my DA:O CE, even pre-ordered it in October.

I now have a wonderfull shiney bookend, Oh that's right ... I have a small cloth map, of a world I can only try and remember, due to the inability to run the game more than a few minutes on my pc designed for gaming, (Games for Windows rating of 5.9).

I'm not asking for help to get it to run, we've all been asking for a while now and that will come whenever Bio Ware decides to give that help, regardless of our plees.

So, please don't flame me with the same responses posted in the other threads that have been helpfull to some, believe me I HAVE tried them.

I just want to know how many of us have completely unplayable games now.

Please chime in if yours is unplayable.

[Vespillo Infensus]

I can play it, but i could be enjoying it much more if it was more polished from the technical point of view. If only Bioware made a communication that they are looking into the CPU/memory problems.

Now we can delay playing untill 2012 waiting for a fix that will never arrive.



They haven't replied in a single thread concerning these problems. enough said.

[Entrium]

Right there with ya bro. I just got this game not too long ago, and it just crashes. It SUCKS. I've seriously tried everything people say. like "update" all my crap. Well, i HAVE. and still nothing. i've uninstalled and reinstalled several times but im not getting anything out of it. it made me waste my code that came with the game. EA hasn't responded to my questions for a while now. so this is complete **** until i get this game goin.

[Apex Sammoth]

Carefull what you wish for you might get the naysayers Fanboys that might blame your system configs for the games performance. Yes same problems since release hasn't been fixed.

[M. Hanky]

Thankfully, I have a playable game. But Bioware is notorious for completely ignoring those who have unplayable games. It took them about a year to make the PC version of Mass Effect playable for many of us, for instance. At least they might get to it eventually

[Vespillo Infensus]

Apex Sammoth wrote...

Carefull what you wish for you might get the naysayers Fanboys that might blame your system configs for the games performance. Yes same problems since release hasn't been fixed.

It could be our system configs that cause the problem, but it is the task of the software to overcome the issues.
I have a great deal of respect for them, making a game as huge as this one and I don't expect a flawless game. What i do expect is an open communication. A healthy customer vendor conversation.

The witcher was another RPG that had a lot of ambition and went down in a sea of bugs. They faced their problems and relaunched the game like it should have been, providing a nice downloadable fix and extra content for those buying the first edition.

Thats what i call support and endless respect to them. Accepting and fixing mistakes. I am still hoping Bioware will do the same. If the problem is or isn't in the software they should just speak up instead of putting their head in the sand and launching some balance fixes.

For the moment i wait.

Modifié par Vespillo Infensus, 10 décembre 2009 - 12:32 .

[Nemby]

Wow... this is the thread I have been looking for. I was wondering if it was just me. I literally had my PC built JUST FOR GAMING. I told the guy at ARRC who built it, "I only want to be able to play games. All games."



And then I get this, a game I have been insanely excited for, and it hardly runs on my comp. Looks choppy as Hell. Then when it finally does start running, it crashes and I get an application error. I am more than a little disgusted. I just downloaded the latest patch, but I didn't read anything in it about fixing my, our, problem.

[ThomaVanguard]

I've tried playing on a Windows XP machine and my new Windows 7 machine. On both the main floor of Redcliffe Castle fails to update properly as the quests progress. With the 1.02 patch that fixes Teagan disappearing he now lays dead infront of the fire place with a quest completion marker over his corpse waiting for me to bring him the urn of sacred ashes. Granted I can't actually give it to him. Also once Arl Eamon wakes up he is no where to be found.

[Nemby]

So what does Bioware suggest we do? Sit around with our thumbs up our asses? Buy another copy? Buy another computer?

[Serinthium]

Ya, I have pretty much given up on trying to make this game work. With five minute load times and combat lag, it is as close to unplayable as it gets. Why would they release a patch that fixes in game balance errors (1.2) when so many people can't even play the thing anyway?

[magemasterjones]

Not too sure but I had a crash today but I can't pinpoint the cause. Perhaps the Firewall or A/V Software I have caused it. I have had the game for a while now and have never had any problems. I got one of the patches for the game but it didn't really do anything to the gameplay and then today I was using my Rogue to pick some pickpocketing and then she shutdown on me.....WTF. Well anyway I still love the game and can't wait to play it again although finding the mission from the chantry board pretty hard where I have to find out what happenned to this group of elves I think. I can't get past the archers...they are killing my crew. Anyway if there's a fix they should certainly get it underway.

[Nemby]

I don't know. Why wouldn't they? Give me answers... not more questions.

[iadas]

I'm at an area where just watching a cut-scene of the NPC's talking crashes...and I HAVE to go through that process in order to continue with the game. Hell, the game crashes when I go into options now too.

[Scrub_Kai]

Why would they release a patch that fixes in game balance errors (1.2) when so many people can't even play the thing anyway?

Simple, becasue it is much easier to fix the game balance issues then it is to fix the "hardware" problems.   Also game balance issues affect more people then the issues with PC hardware.

Look at it this way:
My game crashes periodically. (Yes it does, but it's still playable) Someplace in the Bioware software they are pushing my nvidia card to produce graphics, but my card doesn't have enough memeory to run the physx driver so it talks to the AMD driver that interfaces with my processer.   That processor uses the Microsoft operating system to manage the memory that is used to support the processor  and also pushes the Creative Labs driver to power the sound that runs at the same time.   Oh and then there's the Norton Antivirus software, as well as Itunes and office that runs in the background.

My game crashed.  So where's the problem, is there possibly a bug in the Bioware code OR could it be that they are calling some function that messes up in the nvidia, microsoft, AMD or Creative Labs code.   If it works for some systems and not for others, it could very well be the second option.  Which means that well, now Bioware has to get on the phone with another company to either get them to fix the issue or talk about a workaround.  And that workaround for an AMD fuction may mess up the Intel drivers, so then you have to test on a whole series of other hardware and verify that everything is working.

I know nobody wants to hear it, but when you push PC hardware it's complex.   It's not like a developer can just walk to their computer and say, hmmm   someone is crashing let me look at the code and see if this is the problem.   No they have to reproduce the issue then track down who's issue this is and then get the right fix in, then test the fix to make sure it doesn't introduce more issues, and well repeat the code for the other two platforms if this is shared code....  

Believe me I know it sucks, but it's not like Bioware is trying to screw you, having worked in software I know what it's like to work late nights trying to figure out how to fix a bug when the users are pounding on the door going it's simple why can't you get this fixed...

[Nosisab_KenKeleh]

For me, with a mid range machine, apart the known problems with installing the toolset (mostly it was because 3rth part applications, like the SQL), and some memory leak later with some savegames becoming slow to load (the 1.02 patch seems to have minimized it), it's surprising you are having the issues described. Actually that is the problem making games for PC, some machines responds well to it while some other present all kind of issues.



It's hard for the developers and the maintaining staff to identify what is indeed the problem and even if is something at their side or the user's side.



So, since that game runs with good FPS and no perceptible lag in an AMD's 9550 phenom, 4 gb RAM the actual XP can't even use whole, a nVidia 9600GT 512MB VRAM... with almost everything maximized, 2x AA and 4x AF and 5.1 sound, it's just strange game driven machines having all those issues pointed out.



That said I can only point " http://www.tweakguides.com/ " as a site that have very good hints about configuring a clean system, although it does not have a page for DA:O yet. Even so they have comprehensive guides that enhances the system performance as a whole.

[Gorath Alpha]

Entrium wrote...

 I just got this
game not too long ago, and it just crashes. It SUCKS. I've seriously
tried everything people say. like "update" all my crap. Well, i HAVE.
and still nothing. i've uninstalled and reinstalled several times but
im not getting anything out of it. it made me waste my code that came
with the game. EA hasn't responded to my questions for a while now. so
this is complete **** until i get this game goin.

Apex Sammoth wrote...

Carefull what you wish for you might get the naysayers Fanboys that might blame your system configs for the games performance. Yes same problems since release hasn't been fixed.

Similar to any high intensity 3d PC game, there are Requirements that apply.  Entrium made the choice to ignore those warnings completely, and of course it didn't run, so he had no valid complaint (Intel video).

                Useless pig's ears will never fly, nor ever look like silk purses

Almost every time any new game is released, there are a bevy of unhappy people whose dislike of reading extends to the warning labels on the game boxes about minimum system requirements.  Many of them own elderly PC systems, but most have fairly recent, but quite inexpensive, very basic PCs.  Onboard video is the cheapest kind, especially Intel onboard video. 

You get what you pay for, no more, that's a fact of life.  To make the most of your budget, you do your homework, and you do not believe anyone's onsite sales pitches without support, including the ones I am constantly refuting, about "free (Intel junk video chip) pie in the sky".   If you fell for that nonsense, you are in need of an education about PCs, and either a new video card if you have a desktop, or a replacement laptop, because onboard laptop video isn't upgradeable. 

The games' developers have named their recommended video cards (for desktop PCs) that are available for a reasonable price to anyone willing to make an effort at shopping for a bargain; if my version of shopping is more intensive, and I am expecting to find even bigger bargains than the ordinary ones, that's because with age and experience, a person can finally, with luck, learn patience. 

Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 12 décembre 2009 - 09:02 .

[Rinketsu]

I run my game on high graphics and have no problem lol. But then again i spent 80$ on a video card (orginally for COD4) and I've never had the game crash

[Saiki-Spirt]

8600gt win7 32bit, no issues since v1.0

[PT.Vohnsen]

I never had a problem, guess i'm lucky or just know how to set up a computer.

Not one single crash ever, before or after patch.



Go play on PS3 or Xbox.

[Throvoloss]

I have never, not once, had Dragon Age crash. I guess I"m lucky. My system specs are below

(sorry for all the detail, easier to just copy/paste). I built this system in the spring of 2009.



My brother patched to 1.01 and his save game got completely borked. So he had to completely uninstall and reinstall the game in order to play his saved games again.



CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply



ASRock X58 Supercomputer LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard



Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920... overclocked to 3.228GHz.



ZALMAN CNPS9900LED 120mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler



OCZ 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)



SAPPHIRE 100251SR Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB 512-bit (256-bit x 2) GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready... overclocked to 787/970. Using 9.11 ati drivers.



Microsoft Windows7 Home Premium 64-bit

[Entrium]

Gorath Alpha wrote...

Entrium wrote...

 I just got this
game not too long ago, and it just crashes. It SUCKS. I've seriously
tried everything people say. like "update" all my crap. Well, i HAVE.
and still nothing. i've uninstalled and reinstalled several times but
im not getting anything out of it. it made me waste my code that came
with the game. EA hasn't responded to my questions for a while now. so
this is complete **** until i get this game goin.

Apex Sammoth wrote...

Carefull what you wish for you might get the naysayers Fanboys that might blame your system configs for the games performance. Yes same problems since release hasn't been fixed.

Similar to any high intensity 3d PC game, there are Requirements that apply.  Entrium chose to ignore those completely, and of course it didn't run (Intel video -- 'nuff said).

Lol Gorath, ur such a geek. Well, I don't even care anymore. I'm not going to waste any more money on games like this one. I've got my time set out, not like u who go on forums telling people they don't have a good comp and type and essay about it Lol. Oh well, not like this game is a MMORPG anyways. (Gorath, stop geeking up the forums. Get a job, kiss a girl, do something! "Nuff said" *cough*)

[Rinketsu]

Throvoloss wrote...

I have never, not once, had Dragon Age crash. I guess I"m lucky. My system specs are below
(sorry for all the detail, easier to just copy/paste). I built this system in the spring of 2009.

My brother patched to 1.01 and his save game got completely borked. So he had to completely uninstall and reinstall the game in order to play his saved games again.

CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply

ASRock X58 Supercomputer LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920... overclocked to 3.228GHz.

ZALMAN CNPS9900LED 120mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler

OCZ 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)

SAPPHIRE 100251SR Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB 512-bit (256-bit x 2) GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready... overclocked to 787/970. Using 9.11 ati drivers.

Microsoft Windows7 Home Premium 64-bit

I thought windows 7 didn't come out till this summer?

[Saiki-Spirt]

Rinketsu wrote...

Throvoloss wrote...

I have never, not once, had Dragon Age crash. I guess I"m lucky. My system specs are below
(sorry for all the detail, easier to just copy/paste). I built this system in the spring of 2009.

My brother patched to 1.01 and his save game got completely borked. So he had to completely uninstall and reinstall the game in order to play his saved games again.

CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply

ASRock X58 Supercomputer LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920... overclocked to 3.228GHz.

ZALMAN CNPS9900LED 120mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler

OCZ 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)

SAPPHIRE 100251SR Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB 512-bit (256-bit x 2) GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready... overclocked to 787/970. Using 9.11 ati drivers.

Microsoft Windows7 Home Premium 64-bit

I thought windows 7 didn't come out till this summer?

october 22 in the us it's been out a while. not to mention you can still use the RC until march 2010

[USFKnight]

I can run the game fine, but after installing this latest patch (1.02) it crashes whenever I go to the Landsmeet and I've got a top notch gaming PC so WTF? I can't even play it now and I've updated everything and tried everything I can think of to fix it.

[Rinketsu]

[quote]Saiki-Spirt wrote...


I thought windows 7 didn't come out till this summer?[/quote]
october 22 in the us it's been out a while. not to mention you can still use the RC until march 2010

[/quote]

That was my point how can one have built a computer with windows 7 in early spring when the launch was several months away, unless he had a demo version or something