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[RR1107]

Well, he won't be committing suicide on the planet where his squadmates are buried because he walked off the Normandy on the garden planet with Garrus and Joker in my first play-through

[EsterCloat]

FodoSatoru wrote...

EsterCloat wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

FodoSatoru wrote...

Heh, at least one of the Paragon choices backfires.

Tali's suicide.

Rewriting the heretics as well.

Wow, I'm astonished how numerous they are.

I'm astonished being a jerk doesn't work out for Renegades.

[shepskisaac]

FodoSatoru wrote...

EsterCloat wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

FodoSatoru wrote...

Heh, at least one of the Paragon choices backfires.

Tali's suicide.

Rewriting the heretics as well.

Wow, I'm astonished how numerous they are.

There's quite a few actually. Another one is getting Tali exiled. It's a Paragon decision in ME2, but it pevents achieving peace in ME3.

[squidy]

How do you get the king of the hanar dialouge, I just got the thing about helping liara with a book

[shepskisaac]

RR1107 wrote...

Well, he won't be committing suicide on the planet where his squadmates are buried because he walked off the Normandy on the garden planet with Garrus and Joker in my first play-through

Ouch lol true xD

[darkchief10]

picking control is a bad paragon choice as well

[EsterCloat]

IsaacShep wrote...

RR1107 wrote...

Well, he won't be committing suicide on the planet where his squadmates are buried because he walked off the Normandy on the garden planet with Garrus and Joker in my first play-through

Ouch lol true xD

Joker: So Javik, why'd you tell us to land on this plane-
Javik: *gunshot* *drop*
Joker:...Well, more food for us.

[shepskisaac]

Wait, so there are 3 versions? 1 with suicide, 1 with living as Hanar king and 1 with writing a book. How do you get him to want to write the book?

[FodoSatoru]

EsterCloat wrote...

FodoSatoru wrote...

EsterCloat wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

FodoSatoru wrote...

Heh, at least one of the Paragon choices backfires.

Tali's suicide.

Rewriting the heretics as well.

Wow, I'm astonished how numerous they are.

I'm astonished being a jerk doesn't work out for Renegades.

Being Renegade isn't about jerkassery, at least not regarding major decisions. It's about pragmatism. And what's the use of practicality in the universe where "idealistic" approach almost always yields better results?

[dreamgazer]

 Paragon and Renegade options don't always translate to right and wrong, good and bad. It's a matter of bending to a moral code, and sometimes doing the noble, upright thing isn't necessarily doing the right one.

Keeping Javik in the dark is a somewhat harsh move: you're keeping critical information from him that he deserves to know as a cogent organism. However, doing so keeps his mind clear, and ultimately doesn't show him images that will haunt him for the rest of his life.  Therefore, doing something harsh ends up being beneficial for his mental integrity in the long run. 
I consider those "chaotic good" options. 

Modifié par dreamgazer, 18 mai 2012 - 12:03 .

[Gen Petitt]

Taboo-XX wrote...

FodoSatoru wrote...

Heh, at least one of the Paragon choices backfires.

Tali's suicide.

Mirranda living what now!

[Taboo]

Gen Petitt wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

FodoSatoru wrote...

Heh, at least one of the Paragon choices backfires.

Tali's suicide.

Mirranda living what now!

BOOOOOOOOO.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 18 mai 2012 - 12:06 .

[Gen Petitt]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Gen Petitt wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

FodoSatoru wrote...
Heh, at least one of the Paragon choices backfires.

Tali's suicide.

Mirranda living what now!

BOOOOOOOOO.

I Killed her durring the suicide mission yep Mirranda was the only one to die

[EsterCloat]

FodoSatoru wrote...

EsterCloat wrote...

FodoSatoru wrote...

EsterCloat wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

FodoSatoru wrote...

Heh, at least one of the Paragon choices backfires.

Tali's suicide.

Rewriting the heretics as well.

Wow, I'm astonished how numerous they are.

I'm astonished being a jerk doesn't work out for Renegades.

Being Renegade isn't about jerkassery, at least not regarding major decisions. It's about pragmatism. And what's the use of practicality in the universe where "idealistic" approach almost always yields better results?

Depends on what you define as "better", seeing as the Renegade path is just as viable as the Paragon one, if more bloody and full of jerk tendencies.

[djspectre]

If you convince Javik to use the memory shard, regardless of your love interest, he will want to die with his friends since he has no purpose after the Reapers are gone.

If you don't romance anyone, and he didn't use the shard, you get the dialog about being King of the Hanar

If you romanced someone (doesn't matter who), and he didn't use the shard,  you get the dialog about writing a book with Liara. (this is also referenced from Liara's point of view as a log entry in Liara's room)

Modifié par djspectre, 18 mai 2012 - 12:19 .

[Velocithon]

EsterCloat wrote...

Velocithon wrote...

What's with the memory shard? The only thing I noticed regarding it was when after I obtained Javik from the mission, Liara asked what it was and he said "a memory shard...it contains only pain".

Never heard anything about it again...

If you keep visiting Javik eventually he'll talk about remembering stuff from the shard but it being painful and if you say it's worth it he'll grab it and remember offing all his indoctrinated friends with a knife. Cripes. That makes him want to go die on some random planet after the war is over.

If he doesn't touch it he'll talk about traveling the galaxy and becoming king of the hanar.

Ah thanks.

Funny...I've done everything on my "perfect playthrough" so far. Except talk to Javik. I talk to everyone else after every mission, but never talked to Javik. Whoops.

[shepskisaac]

djspectre wrote...

If you convince Javik to use the memory shard, regardless of your love interest, he will want to die with his friends since he has no purpose after the Reapers are gone.

If you don't romance anyone, and he didn't use the shard, you get the dialog about being King of the Hanar

If you romanced someone (doesn't matter who), and he didn't use the shard,  you get the dialog about writing a book with Liara. (this is also referenced from Liara's point of view as a log entry in Liara's room)

There's also one more version youtu.be/_BqrT-Vhhco he says that he wants to see more of the Galaxy. How do you get this? Romance + Shard?

[greatcrusader44]

In my first playthrough I had him use the shard, but at the end he didn't say anything about suicide, said he was looking forward to what peace is like. Sec playthrough I told him to forget about it and in the end he said practically the same thing except he also said he was contemplating writing a book with Liara. Never gotten the hanar king or suicide dialogue

[Bill Casey]

djspectre wrote...

If you don't romance anyone, and he didn't use the shard, you get the dialog about being King of the Hanar

This is also true if you romance Liara...

[christrek1982]

DubVee12 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

So if you take Paragon option he wants to kill himself? :///////

He's reliving the death of everyone he ever cared about. Going through it once was likely awful. Twice?

hay thats like replaying the ending for us yeh:?

[AresKeith]

If you skip the arguement with Liara an Javik he become king of the Hanar then too