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[sissysouthpaw]

I'll just drop this link to a comment here:
On the endings

Modifié par Liisi, 18 mai 2012 - 10:07 .

[DaJe]

Give it some time and actually think about the ending, something the writers didn't do.

My first reaction wasn't very bad either, but every second I thought more about it, it made me more angry, it still does.

Find some articles or videos on youtube if you have to, but it's just going to make you sad.

[Andromidius]

The Razman wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Obvious troll is obvious. Considering you suggested that we don't understand the ending alone screams "I'm flamebaiting, please feed me!"

Yes ... because anybody who so much as breathes a mention that there just might possibly maybe conceivably be anyone out there who hates the ending because they didn't understand it ... is trolling.

<_<

Did you read my post?  The way he worded it was obvious flamebait.  As is your attempt to troll me.

Try harder.

[Christianswe]

Im glad you like the endings, i wish i did to. But i hate them, they go against the whole feel of mass effect, the choose a subject that is slightly touched upon through the games, and then at the last fifteen minutes, it just comes from left field. And, no payoff, no closure, nothing. But it boils down to personal taste, everyone thinks and likes different things. So im not going to force someone to hate the ending if they don´t.

[someone else]

1. OP hasn't been back in so obvious troll
2. OP is not a registered user so ditto
3. Reactions like OP's and similar "justifications" or "explanations" for the ending are simply intellectual *autoeroticism* - or they simply ignore or don't care about the [lack of] emotional content and completion a real ending would demand.

- no we're not too stupid to see a logic of a kind to starbrat's spiel - BUT - ME is science fiction - "logic" and scientific plausibility are trivial - we indulge in the "willing suspension of disbelief'" in order to enter this universe (eezo? really? FLT in a mere 150 years? really? Galactic dominance in 26 years from first contact? really?)

The intellectual narcissists can argue themselves to death - the real power of the ME series is that it moves us on a human and emotive level - the ending may present some interesting concepts - but it fails completely to touch the heart of the story and the hearts of its fans.

Modifié par someone else, 18 mai 2012 - 11:26 .

[someguy1231]

PrivateJoker17 wrote...

And found the ending to be incredibly moving, jaw dropping and astounding. I was in awe for those final thirty minutes and have to admit a tear came to my eye. I've been a fan since the original release back in '07 and had been looking forward to the game for two years before that. Mass Effect is my favourite franchise, I've played through the first two countless times and honestly this was one of the best endings in gaming for me and I couldn't be happier.
But I'm confused, why is there overwhelming hate for this ending? Did people not understand it? Did people not pay attention in the past three games? This was a perfect end to the trilogy. I'll admit there weren't too many choices to be made in those final two hours, but really, who cares? The ending wrapped things up quite well and even gave us a bit extra, in true Bioware fashion.
I'd like to hear your thoughts on this, am I the only one who feels this way? If so, please explain why, please tell me why so many people hate the ending, because I'm just baffled.

Watch some youtube videos on the ending. They show you why.

Modifié par someguy1231, 18 mai 2012 - 12:09 .

[Metalrocks]

no reply from OP at all. even from the people on the first page who agreed with him still dint answer any of our questions what so great about the ending.
amazing how these trolls have fun with it.

[What a Succulent Ass]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[The Razman]

[quote]Metalrocks wrote...

no reply from OP at all. even from the people on the first page who agreed with him still dint answer any of our questions what so great about the ending.
amazing how these trolls have fun with it. [/quote]
*sigh*

[quote]Some Doofus wrote...

I'm not trying to pick a fight, but I really want someone that thought it was amazing to explain what was amazing about it.

Was
it the idea that the created will always rebel against the creators and
destroy them so the star kid must destroy advanced organics to keep
synthetics from destroying all organics?[/quote]
Fixed.

[quote]Or was it the part
where the heroic, always challenging and resistant Shepard (you know the
one that didn't just accept explanations but asked questions and fought
and things like that), just accepts the star kid's "solution"?[/quote]
As opposed to rejecting the only option to stop the Reapers.

[quote]Or was it the part just after the beam hit Shepard where someone orders a retreat-when there's nowhere to retreat to?[/quote]
Why would there be nowhere to retreat to? You came from somewhere, you can go back. <_<

[quote]Or,
was it the part where Shepard chooses Destroy which means the Geth and
EDI will be vaporized, when your Shepard may have united the Geth and
Quarian (see created/creator thing) and may have taught EDI a bit about
love?[/quote]
Then don't choose destroy if you have a problem with it.

[quote]Or, was it the part where Shepard simply believes the star
kid when the star kid all along has been the evil puppet master behind
the reapers-meaning he is the big nasty in the game?[/quote]
You didn't understand the ending if you believe that.

[quote]Or, was it
the part where Joker simply swooped in super quickly and scooped up
teammates that may have been fighting with Shepard when Shepard got hit
by the beam and then ran away (you know because your teammates would
leave and Joker would think there's actually some place to run to to
hide from reapers)?[/quote]
He ain't running from the Reapers. He's running from the big frickin' galactic explosion that you've set off.

[quote]Or, was it the part where your teammates and
Joker and your Love Interest, who all turned and ran away somehow, ended
up on some jungle planet?[/quote]
Sure. What's the prob with that?

[quote]Or, was it the charcoal encrusted
Shepard chest that gasped at the end (*see below) that appears to be
laying in debris in London (magical space fall and planetary re-entry)?

*Referencing
above-Was it that gasping chest that you can only get if you have a
high enough EMS score based upon multiplayer play (promised not to be
needed for the game) that you can only get if you choose the "correct"
option from A, B, or C (also promised not to be in the game)?[/quote]
It's called "easter eggs". Deal with it.

[quote]Or,
was it the lack of meaningful difference amongst the endings you could
get whether you worked really hard to acquire assets in the game or just
sat on your assets and did nothing?  Keep in mind the basic differences
are whether you get all 3 choices, or whether Earth gets vaporized in
one and whether Shepard gasps in another.[/quote]
Not vaporising the Earth seems like a bit of a big difference to me.<_<

[quote]Or, was it the blue screen that popped up after the credits that said to get ready and buy some DLC?[/quote]
How was that part of the ending?

[quote]Or,
was it the Stargazer scene, ambiguous as it is, which features the
greatest misuse of a truly heroic figure's voice (Buzz Aldrin) in any
video game ever?]/quote]
Who cares if Buzz Aldrin was in it?

[quote]Or, was it the lack of story cohesion where you
begin these games racing to fight against a super evil, larger than life
foe that is the stuff of nightmares-you know the one that turns humans
and others into organic goo-only to suddenly be thrown into slow motion,
non-action, and to face a glob of super silly light in the form of a
kid?  A star kid that you had no idea existed, but are somehow in the
last few minutes of the game, supposed to believe, to hate, to love, to
like, to follow, or what?  Shepard would never believe and certainly
would never follow anything this glow boy says.[/quote]
Yeah ... because it's not as if the Starchild is offering Shepard exactly what he wanted and has gone through utter hell for; a way to stop the Reapers.

Oh no wait ... yes he frickin' is. <_<

[quote]Or, was it that
all that your Shepard and friends may have sacrificed for, end up being
basically meaningless?  What did Mordin die for?  Legion?  Thane?[/quote]
Stopping the Reapers is meaningless? Sure.

[quote]Or,
was it the lack of any of these friends fighting alongside you at the
end and the lack of any real fun at seeing your war assets in use?  Some
people actually thought it might be awesome to see Asari warriors
really fight, Krogans on dino back, Jack and her biotic kids, but some
people apparently didn't care.[/quote]
I was more concerned with actually saying goodbye to all of the people in those incredibly touching and moving scenes at the end rather than "OMG DIS IZ SO COOL LOOK AT THE MICHALE BAY STUFF!!1".

[quote]I just want to know what was
awesome and amazing about it.[/quote]
All the things that you notice when you're not whinging and moaning about crap that doesn't matter like literally everything above.

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People who say they don't like the ending for meaningless crap are far more probable candidates for trolls.

[Huntress]

Liisi wrote...

I'll just drop this link to a comment here:
On the endings

Thanks!
I totally agree with 3DandBeyond. And everyone should remember what the Citadel job is and what it does, why it wasn't destroyed in any of the ends. Did I miss anything in the end? No I didn't, did YOU?.<_<

[augmented shephard]

I really enjoyed the ending too.

[someone else]

^geez I wish I wuz a super intelleck so I kin unnerstan' the endig, like him do. mego bak to trollcave and beat wif.

[napushenko]

[quote]The Razman wrote...

Some Doofus wrote...

I'm not trying to pick a fight, but I really want someone that thought it was amazing to explain what was amazing about it.

Was
it the idea that the created will always rebel against the creators and
destroy them so the star kid must destroy advanced organics to keep
synthetics from destroying all organics?[/quote]
Fixed.

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[/quote]


This actually might make sense, but still they didnt expand on that theme how they should and it still makes for unsatisfactory ending. I tend to agree with trollz I mean, normal people who dont quite like the ending, because even if above is true, for what then we fighted for exactly ? Its pure nihilism. 

[Daniel_N7]

The Razman wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

The Razman wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Obvious troll is obvious. Considering you suggested that we don't understand the ending alone screams "I'm flamebaiting, please feed me!"

Yes ... because anybody who so much as breathes a mention that there just might possibly maybe conceivably be anyone out there who hates the ending because they didn't understand it ... is trolling.

<_<

I think considering the amount of time that people have had to be able to understand it, yes.

Time doesn't mean people who don't understand it are going to. You give a monkey a math book, don't matter how long you give it ... it ain't gonna learn trigonometry.

You are so... deep!

[aj2070]

PrivateJoker17 wrote...

And found the ending to be incredibly moving, jaw dropping and astounding. I was in awe for those final thirty minutes and have to admit a tear came to my eye. I've been a fan since the original release back in '07 and had been looking forward to the game for two years before that. Mass Effect is my favourite franchise, I've played through the first two countless times and honestly this was one of the best endings in gaming for me and I couldn't be happier.
But I'm confused, why is there overwhelming hate for this ending? Did people not understand it? Did people not pay attention in the past three games? This was a perfect end to the trilogy. I'll admit there weren't too many choices to be made in those final two hours, but really, who cares? The ending wrapped things up quite well and even gave us a bit extra, in true Bioware fashion.
I'd like to hear your thoughts on this, am I the only one who feels this way? If so, please explain why, please tell me why so many people hate the ending, because I'm just baffled.

I am glad you were able to enjoy the ending. Simple answer as to why I do not like the current "ending" is that in my opinion (for those who need to see these words), it left more questions than answers.  You will need to go to the spoiler allowed thread for detais.

[mauro2222]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

OP's post is so over-the-top that I'm not sure if he's serious or just trollng...

I pick I pick... the second one.

[Sarah_SR2]

For the record, I like ME3 a lot and am playing it through a second time and taking the time to take it in properly. But this is what makes the ending so disappointing for me. It's like watching a sporting event and then the transmission ends 1 minute before the end of the game. You're left with a basic idea of eps hat happened but have so many questions left unanswered.

I was left wondering:

Why was the Normandy making a break from the sol system?
Where was Joker taking the ship?
Did the fleet get destroyed when the Mass Relay exploded?
What happened to the people on Earth?
Where did the Reapers go?
How did the crew get back on board the ship?
If the crew on Earth survived, what became of them?
What happened to the citadel?
What happened to the Crucible?

I can think of quite a few more, but you kind of get my joist here?

[AlanC9]

Well, we'll have to wait for the EC to clear some of this up. But there have been posts from the writers on a couple of these topics

Sarah_SR2 wrote...
Did the fleet get destroyed when the Mass Relay exploded?
What happened to the people on Earth?

Depends on EMS. If Earth survives the fleet survives.

What happened to the citadel?

Badly damaged but not destroyed. A lot of casualties, but most people survived,

[aj2070]

Sarah_SR2 wrote...

For the record, I like ME3 a lot and am playing it through a second time and taking the time to take it in properly. But this is what makes the ending so disappointing for me. It's like watching a sporting event and then the transmission ends 1 minute before the end of the game. You're left with a basic idea of eps hat happened but have so many questions left unanswered.

I was left wondering:

Why was the Normandy making a break from the sol system?
Where was Joker taking the ship?
Did the fleet get destroyed when the Mass Relay exploded?
What happened to the people on Earth?
Where did the Reapers go?
How did the crew get back on board the ship?
If the crew on Earth survived, what became of them?
What happened to the citadel?
What happened to the Crucible?

I can think of quite a few more, but you kind of get my joist here?

Well since Sarah_SR2 went there, those and several more that can't be asked in this thread.

@AlanC9 - another reason I don't like the endings... I either have to have a Twitter account or depend on people with Twitter accounts for these answers and then on top of that, sift through contradictory information.  There are at least two endings that contratict the idea that the Citadel was not destroyed.  There have been tweets concerning the fate of the mass relays that direcly contradicts the information presented in the game.  I should not have to have a social media account to see how a game ends.

Modifié par aj2070, 18 mai 2012 - 05:13 .

[Grimwick]

OP, you're an idiot.

[Gokuthegrate]

It wasn't the plot holes and Star Child's revelation of the Reapers being nothing more then pawns that made me dislike the ending.
The reason that I disliked the ending is because of no conclusions to what happened to the choices made throughout the game.
What happened to Liara, the Krogans etc.

[PinkDiamondstl]

Grimwick wrote...

OP, you're an idiot.

Don't be rude...
He's right....

[MegaBadExample]

The ending makes no sense - that's why I don't like it.