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Seriously EC nonsense is delaying the future Omega retaken DLC


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The Mad Hanar wrote...

That's the way of things here. Plus you can look back on this whole thread and see other Retakers with the same attitude.


Not really. I see a few people with an overly agressive attitude, not all of the 'Retakers' and all of them individuals. A minority of the greater number of responses.

But you guys would never gang up on a person with a differing viewpoint, right?


I hope you aren't including me in this generalization. 

To the point: using the phrase 'gang up' betrays bias. Just because a lot of people have similar views on a certain topic does not mean they are 'ganging up' on someone. 

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 18 mai 2012 - 05:00 .


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The Night Mammoth wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

That's the way of things here. Plus you can look back on this whole thread and see other Retakers with the same attitude.


Not really. I see a few people with an overly agressive attitude, not all of the 'Retakers' and all of them individuals. A minority of the greater number of responses.

But you guys would never gang up on a person with a differing viewpoint, right?


I hope you aren't including me in this generalization. 

To the point: using the phrase 'gang up' betrays bias. Just because a lot of people have similar views on a certain topic does not mean they are 'ganging up' on someone. 


Multiple people insulting a person's intellegence or wishes is my definition of ganging up. More than the minority implied that their wishes are more important than the people who want to "Retake Omega" or threw in unecessary pessimism while contributing nothing to the conversation.

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I won't buy any DLC until they provide a ending that makes sense, doesn't make everything before meaningless, and gives closure. It would be a bad idea for Bioware to release the Omega DLC before the EC, anyway. There wouldn't be enough people willing to buy it to justify the cost of making it.

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With the ending the way it is, I have no interest in purchasing any future DLCs. What's the point of taking back Omega if it doesn't mean anythingin the end? Without the elays, they'll all most likely starve to death. Besides, taking back Omega was the furthest thing from my mind. I wanted side missions involving stopping the Reapers (ex. Dekunna, or hub worlds), instead, we got stupid fetch quests.

Besides, I already have Blood Pack, Blue Sun, and Eclipse support, what's the point?

Modifié par GreenDragon37, 18 mai 2012 - 05:13 .


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Seriously its put a 3 month back log on any future work to do with the game dlc.

This EC has most likely caused them to cancel plans for some dlc. Its most likely stopped them developing a large dlc all together which Omega and revisiting the collectors base would of been.

This also would most likely stop us getting a Collectors enemy for Multiplayer since without the dlc they wouldnt bring them just for multiplayer.

Yes I know the hold the line we never buying another bioware product or playing their games people dont care but lets face it EC is just going to annoy you with cut scenes explaining an ending you dont like and want totally overhauled anyway.

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Why should we even care to help Aria when we can get the support of pretty much every major gang she controls without launching an attack on Omega?

To just hurt Cerberus? Meh. They're filth, not worth the time, effort or resources.

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The Mad Hanar wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

That's the way of things here. Plus you can look back on this whole thread and see other Retakers with the same attitude.


Not really. I see a few people with an overly agressive attitude, not all of the 'Retakers' and all of them individuals. A minority of the greater number of responses.

But you guys would never gang up on a person with a differing viewpoint, right?


I hope you aren't including me in this generalization. 

To the point: using the phrase 'gang up' betrays bias. Just because a lot of people have similar views on a certain topic does not mean they are 'ganging up' on someone. 


Multiple people insulting a person's intellegence or wishes is my definition of ganging up.


Your definition is irrelevant. The definition is different, but even so, neither are fulfilled in this thread.


More than the minority implied that their wishes are more important than the people who want to "Retake Omega" or threw in unecessary pessimism while contributing nothing to the conversation.


That's pretty different to what you're talking about. 

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To be honest I can't even motivate myself to play the game through again to reach an extended ending. I'll probably just Youtube it.

Sorry Mass Effect, I think our time together has come to an end.

Bioshock, Hitman: Absolution, Halo 4 and GTAV have all made much more heartfelt attempts to win my love, so onwards and upwards I go!

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CoddyXD wrote...



Seriously EC nonsense is delaying the future Omega retaken DLC

 


Retake Omega just to leave the people there stranded and eventually starve to death through lack of food.

Pointless.

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Sadly at this point, DLC sales will be much better if the EC is released first and receives a more or less positive reception. Business sense.

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The Night Mammoth wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

That's the way of things here. Plus you can look back on this whole thread and see other Retakers with the same attitude.


Not really. I see a few people with an overly agressive attitude, not all of the 'Retakers' and all of them individuals. A minority of the greater number of responses.

But you guys would never gang up on a person with a differing viewpoint, right?


I hope you aren't including me in this generalization. 

To the point: using the phrase 'gang up' betrays bias. Just because a lot of people have similar views on a certain topic does not mean they are 'ganging up' on someone. 


Multiple people insulting a person's intellegence or wishes is my definition of ganging up.


Your definition is irrelevant. The definition is different, but even so, neither are fulfilled in this thread.


More than the minority implied that their wishes are more important than the people who want to "Retake Omega" or threw in unecessary pessimism while contributing nothing to the conversation.


That's pretty different to what you're talking about. 


Wow....

Just wow....

So I said that Retakers spit on other peoples wishes, repeated it in a more elaborate way, described how this mindset was negative and insulted the OP and his/her wishes, yet I'm not talking about what I was originally talking about?

I could give you proof, but it would take a lot of quote boxes. Is that what you want?

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I think people should also note that the EC actually has a chance of improving the overall quality of future DLC. Why bring back voice actors just to voice the extended cut? Since they've had time now to consider what dialogue will be needed, I wouldn't be surprised if most squadmates have some unique DLC dialogue.

Also the people not working on the EC have had more time to consider what they want to put into the DLC. EA/Bioware is banking on future DLC paying for the EC.

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If they don't fix the ending, then NO DLC for the game is going to be worth my money, because it will still all lead up to the same thing.

Why is everyone so mad at free DLC delaying plans for priced DLC anyway? You might as well just throw your money at EA, it'll have the same effect.

Modifié par Apocaleepse360, 18 mai 2012 - 05:28 .


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The Mad Hanar wrote...

Wow....

Just wow....

So I said that Retakers spit on other peoples wishes, repeated it in a more elaborate way, described how this mindset was negative and insulted the OP and his/her wishes, yet I'm not talking about what I was originally talking about?


A majority of posters being pessimistic, which is disheartening but not wrong, is slightly different to all those retakers openly ganging up on the OP by insulting him, which is what you said originally. 


I could give you proof, but it would take a lot of quote boxes. Is that what you want?


You could try.

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CoddyXD wrote...

Seriously its put a 3 month back log on any future work to do with the game dlc.

This EC has most likely caused them to cancel plans for some dlc. Its most likely stopped them developing a large dlc all together which Omega and revisiting the collectors base would of been.

This also would most likely stop us getting a Collectors enemy for Multiplayer since without the dlc they wouldnt bring them just for multiplayer.

Yes I know the hold the line we never buying another bioware product or playing their games people dont care but lets face it EC is just going to annoy you with cut scenes explaining an ending you dont like and want totally overhauled anyway.


gotta love speculations from everyone....

If aynthing it may have slightly delayed single player dlc, Multiplayer dlc is right on track with the second multiplayer pack due out soon called "rebellion"

I highly doubt they intended any single player dlc to come out till fall if anything, and besides with status updates almost nonexistent unless you have twitter who says they're working on the EC and not the supposed paid dlc I still think there will be a dlc called terminator, thats how far my faith in them has fallen..

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@Mammoth Look, I've had a long day. I'll conclude by saying this. Sometimes *certain* retakers annoy me with their hypocritical attitude, their insistence to inject the ending or IT into every post (particularly on Facebook), their superiority complexes and their overall pessimism. It is wrong to lump everybody into the same category.

So, you win. Congrats. I'm gonna go get a cup of coffee and try to wake up some more. My argumentative skills are really bad today.

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^ waaaaaaaaaaaaaah i'm being persecuted

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majormajormmajor wrote...

^ waaaaaaaaaaaaaah i'm being persecuted


YOU KNOW WHAT? I'm cool....nevermind

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Meh, I really don't care for dlc to fight more Cerberus in a game where the Reapers are busy trying to harvest all advanced organics. Especially Cerberus sitting on an orbital station guarding a relay to a base I destroyed. Anyone have a tactically significant reason for taking back Omega? (besides Aria wanting it back)

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The Extended Cut is an attempt by Bioware/EA to try to repair some of the damage that has happened to their consumer goodwill (a real thing that is on their accounting books from what I understand). If it goes well they have a larger market for their paid DLC (though most likely not as large as they started with before the ending happened).

Making a paid DLC before making an attempt to repair your consumer base would be ill-conceived at best. If you personally don't care about the EC then that is fine. But calling it nonsense when it clearly is an entirely logic and monetary based decision is a rather unreasoned position.

Modifié par ArchDuck, 18 mai 2012 - 05:40 .


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The ending sucks huge ass.

I don't want to play the game anymore. EC might change that. (Though I doubt it, the game is still disappointing...all that freakin' auto-dialogue and fetch bull****)

If I don't want to play the game anymore, what good would Omega do?

It's all a waste of time in the end.

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ArchDuck wrote...

The Extended Cut is an attempt by Bioware/EA to try to repair some of the damage that has happened to their consumer goodwill (a real thing that is on their accounting books from what I understand). If it goes well they have a larger market for their paid DLC (though most likely not as large as they started with before the ending happened).

Making a paid DLC before making an attempt to repair your consumer base would be ill-conceived at best. If you personally don't care about the EC then that is fine. But calling it nonsense when it clearly is an entirely logic and monetary based decision is a rather unreasoned position.


If they cared about goodwill, they wouldn't be condescending, hypocrtical and ignoring us.

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FatalX7.0 wrote...

ArchDuck wrote...

The Extended Cut is an attempt by Bioware/EA to try to repair some of the damage that has happened to their consumer goodwill (a real thing that is on their accounting books from what I understand). If it goes well they have a larger market for their paid DLC (though most likely not as large as they started with before the ending happened).

Making a paid DLC before making an attempt to repair your consumer base would be ill-conceived at best. If you personally don't care about the EC then that is fine. But calling it nonsense when it clearly is an entirely logic and monetary based decision is a rather unreasoned position.


If they cared about goodwill, they wouldn't be condescending, hypocrtical and ignoring us.


You are confusing "consumer goodwill" with "feelings".

They, as a business, don't really care about individual's feelings or opinions except when it crosses into a significant impact into their ability to sell to consumers (which is consumer goodwill).

Edit: Though I agree that some of their decisions have been ill thought out on their end. Not really good business or very logical at all.

Modifié par ArchDuck, 18 mai 2012 - 05:48 .


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In truth I haven't read the whole thread but there was some real venom in the initial posts. Would never say I was a massive fan of the endings but some people went really over the top.

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FatalX7.0 wrote...

ArchDuck wrote...

The Extended Cut is an attempt by Bioware/EA to try to repair some of the damage that has happened to their consumer goodwill (a real thing that is on their accounting books from what I understand). If it goes well they have a larger market for their paid DLC (though most likely not as large as they started with before the ending happened).

Making a paid DLC before making an attempt to repair your consumer base would be ill-conceived at best. If you personally don't care about the EC then that is fine. But calling it nonsense when it clearly is an entirely logic and monetary based decision is a rather unreasoned position.


If they cared about goodwill, they wouldn't be condescending, hypocrtical and ignoring us.


I don't think replying would do anybody good right now. There;s nothing they could really say except they're working on it,

Fan 1: What are you guys doing about the ending?
BioWare Employee: We're working on it
Fan 1: Seriously? When's it coming out?
BWE: Beats me!
Fan 2: Typical BioWare YOU SUCK! and YOU ENDING IS BAD!
BWE: Sorry you feel that way
Fan 2: Typical condescending remark!
Fan 1: I know right!
BWE: I think you misunderstood what I was saying...
Fan 1: Now he's insulting our intellegence!
Fan 2: SCREW YOU MAN!
BWE: ...I should go *logs off*
Fan 1: ARE YOU SERIOUS?
Fan 2: Typical BioWare!!!
Apologist: You guys realize that was your fault, right?
Fan 1: It's our fault we've been LIED to CONSTANTLY?!
Fan 2: It's our fault the DLC is taking FOREVER?
Fan 1: It's our fault that there's AUTO-DIALOGUE?!
Fan 2: IT'S OUR FAULT OUR CHOICES DO NOT MATTER?!?
Apologist: ...*logs off*
Fan 1: Typical
Fan 2: IKR?!