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Error Note: Display driver igfx has stoped responding and has successfully recovered.

That error note pops up like times, the screen blacks out and flashes, my laptop shuts down and restarts. I've tried the best I can to "Update" everything, and yet, my laptop still crashes. WTH is goin on? I've even un-installed and re-installed several times already. Nothing worked for me yet.

I've used my code to get the free Blood Dragon Armor, and the Shale guy. Is that going to be lost forever since I un-installed?

Someone help! (Espacially YOU EA!) I've sent a request a while ago and no replies from EA.

My system meets all the requirements.

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Entrium wrote...
My system meets all the requirements.

That doesn't help much. For anyone to offer useful advice we would need to know what CPU, GPU, RAM, OS...

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Your DLC items wont or shouldnt be lost, you just login with your account ingame and voila u should have em.



As to your crashing, cant help you much there since you dont really provide any info other then "you meet all the requirements". =d

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-System-

Operating System: Windows Vista Home Premium (6.0 Build 6002)

Manufacturer: TOSHIBA

Model: Satellite L305

Processor: Intel® Pentium(® Dual CPU T2390 @ 1.86 GHz (2 CPUs), ~1.9GHz

Memory: 3062 MB RAM

Direct X Version: Direct X 11

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Chip Type: Mobile Intel® 965 Express Chipset Family

Main Driver: igdumd32.dll

Version:7.14.0010.1329

WHQL Logo'd: Yes

DDI Version: 9Ex


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My system meets all the requirements.


The onboard video processor in that notebook of yours is unsupported and way too weak to play any current 3D games. That's a major requirement not met.

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I'm afraid I'll have to concur. There are no "built into the mother board" graphics processors with enough "oomph" to properly run the game. If EA were to respond, it would be to simply say that your graphics subsystem is not supported by the game. Since most onboard graphics share system memory, it's probably just running out of memory for the graphics to use.

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Well are you sure? That's wierd cuz I play a few other 3D games/MMORPG and they work just fine...

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In the read me file included with the game it states that Intel chipsets are not officially supported. Additionally your CPU barely meets the requirement.

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Well, if this is the case, then I guess I've wasted a good chunk of money that I could've used on other games that ACTUALLY WORK.

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I'm sorry integrated graphics stinks, no matter the fancy name they give them. I've been down this road before and honestly you need a good video card for most games. I don't prefer laptops because they are hard to upgrade. Build you a desktop pc made for gaming, that way they are easy to upgrade overtime and you can really get what you want cheaper than you may think. For example my pc.



A refurbished gateway computer 2007 model running Vista

AMD X2 64 2.6 ghz dual core processor

4GIGS OF 800Mhz memory

Geforce 8600GT 256mb video card



Cost me a whopping price of about $450 dollars from tiger direct.com

you can build some really good gaming computers cheaply if you know where to look.

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Malak Darkhunter wrote...
Cost me a whopping price of about $450 dollars from tiger direct.com
you can build some really good gaming computers cheaply if you know where to look.


Or who to ask :blink:

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Update ALL of your drivers for your chipset. Go to intel and download the latest drivers. Your specs are nearly identical to mine and the game runs fine. Also, run off one CPU until the mem leak patch comes out.

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The thing is you don't have to sink thousands of dollars into a gaming pc to get it to play your games well. I use my computer for everything, I even keep the virus scanners and firewall running all the time no problem. I have been able to play anything I want to No worries. NWN2, The Witcher, to name a few...With all settings on high with no slowdown on framerates.



Things to remember are this: Most processors are not made for gaming. Only Amd Athlon or Intel Pentiums are your general processors that work well for gaming. These are your basics. There are more expensive powerful ones, but you really don't need them. Intel celeron processors and such are more for general use internet surfer type pc's.

Video card and it's memory, most games require about geforce 6600 or up nowdays, And it's memory it has onboard used for graphic processing. It's best to go with a 256mb or higher.

System memory-Just max out your motherboard it's not that expensive to buy and the more you have the more information your computer can store for your games, wich help with loading times in games and system crashes.



I hope this information helps a few people....I learned it the hard way- Malak Darkhunter.

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Xantor_Stromgate wrote...

Update ALL of your drivers for your chipset. Go to intel and download the latest drivers. Your specs are nearly identical to mine and the game runs fine. Also, run off one CPU until the mem leak patch comes out.



You know I really suspiscion game crashing bugs in the game, It happens most only in certain parts of the game like in Ostagar, whatever event triggers they have set up for that area is causing the game to crash, I have played bioware games before and seen these sort of problems before. It's game crashing bugs they need to fix. The scripts are messed up. That the sad thing about buying a game when it first comes out...it's barely playtested and it takes months for the game to really shine and run error free.

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Reference the error message; "display driver igfx stopped responding", Vista is trying to keep your computer from crashing when it has this problem. So it prevents the crash and then explains why it did the intervention. Hence the message. So this message is not the problem it is an indication that something is causing a problem and Vista is having to intervene. Here is some thing I have found on the internet that may help, click on Start/All Programs/Maintenance/Problem reports and solutions Look through the report and see if you can get any clues as to what the problem is. If the problem is the video driver, updating it may help as mentioned earlier but I would run the game at the lowest resolution and turn antialiasing off. Even then I doubt if you could play too long before it overheats. To minimize any heating issues you may consider a chill pad.

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InteruptZero wrote...

Reference the error message; "display driver igfx stopped responding", Vista is trying to keep your computer from crashing when it has this problem. So it prevents the crash and then explains why it did the intervention. Hence the message. So this message is not the problem it is an indication that something is causing a problem and Vista is having to intervene. Here is some thing I have found on the internet that may help, click on Start/All Programs/Maintenance/Problem reports and solutions Look through the report and see if you can get any clues as to what the problem is. If the problem is the video driver, updating it may help as mentioned earlier but I would run the game at the lowest resolution and turn antialiasing off. Even then I doubt if you could play too long before it overheats. To minimize any heating issues you may consider a chill pad.


Ok, thx, was wondering wat the error sign was. Not too good with tech. stuff xD

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Ok guys, I guess I'll just go with what u all said. Thx for the quick response. Faster than i was imagining. Thx again!

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Entrium wrote...

Ok guys, I guess I'll just go with what u all said. Thx for the quick response. Faster than i was imagining. Thx again!


LOL, your welcome, contrary to popular belief, most geeks enjoy helping people.

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                                                        Definitions

What we have here is a major conflict between the definitions that the developers, and the majority of game players commonly apply to what constitutes "Playable", and from that to what is or is not a "Minimum Requirement". 

We've been told that Dragon Age: Origins has been very carefully crafted to scale downward to the Minimum from the Recommended Level very smoothly and with a minimum of easily perceived lessened quality of gaming experience.  As such, the Official Minimums were supposed to be both lenient in allowing some quite old hardware to be used, and generous with regard to the frame rates available with low settings and low resolutions. 

The typical definition for "Minimum" doesn't anticipate 50 FPS animation speeds, but normally is for much lower 30 FPS rates.  Both versions of the definition are based on a Medium resolution, not a high default on a wide LCD.  Low image settings are expected with both the usual definition and with Bioware's, but Bioware's developers have frequently asserted that they believe they reached a higher than typical level of graphical quality for the minimums that they set. 

Personally, I think that they erred heavily when naming the Geforce 6600 GT and Radeon X1550 as minimums, if that intention of theirs was to be adhered to.  The X1550 is merely a rebadged X1300, and is not intended for gaming purposes.  The 6600 GT was down at the very bottom of Medium when new, back in 2005, and is now overshadowed by an assortment of Low End business quality cards. 

There is no support for any laptop.  There is no support for any onboard video chip.  None of the various video chips readily available can even match the 6600 GT, which really falls below either of the Minimum Video requirements' intentions, Bioware's, or the general gaming industry's. 

This thread began with a request for help with a substandard system containing an extremely substandard video chip from the second-worst source of video devices, who at the same time is the largest producer of video devices.  The Intel video chips are an embarrassment to th e entire industry, they are so very bad.  Such chips aren't capable of rendering any relatively current modern 3D game in any kind of attractive and smooth manner.  That's a fact.  It's a MOBILE chip, so it's a laptop.  It cannot have its video upgraded. 

DA: O cannot be forced to run correctly with such terrible hardware; it can only run BADLY.  The OP claims to have run a lot of games before, but that is an invalid comparison.  There is no such thing as a high intensity 3D game designed to function on Intel's tinker toys.  Newer drivers cannot make any difference, not at all.  Nothing can turn that particular Pig's Ear into even a cloth bag, let alone a silk purse. 

When anyone leads a newby on with false hope that there is really a hidden silk purse, that is plain wrong. 

The number of lurkers on forums such as this one outnumber those writing messages by a large factor.  Any time a serious source of misinformation appears, it behooves everyone to recognize that such contradictory hokum does nothing at all to aid all of those silent lurkers out there.  It's not just our one OP in his single thread, it's dozens of beginners who may see such mis-statements over the next several weeks. 

The Intel Pentium P4 was a mistake from the very first one, rated at 1.5 GHz or so, but unable to perform as well as the Pentium P3 with a 1.1 GHz core clock.  Intended to compete with the AMD Athlon with pure speed, it never did manage to overcome the game-playing advantage that AMD established early on and held for every day of the P4's overheated lifespan.  Three years before it was replaced, the P4 was so badly outperformed by AMD's hardware that it was ridiculous. 

In spite of selling such a horrible piece of junk, Intel bribed and threatened all and sundry who might want to use the superior AMD processors, and outsold them through such illegal means.  Legally, they should'nt have been able to sell one P4 after the first A64 was ready to use, the P4 was so inferior.  Their tactics earned them huge fines that their criminal behavior has meant they have plenty of reserves to pay.  Various anti-trust charges have abounded, and the EU is planning to fine them billions of dollars for it. 

All of that is a matter of public record.  Look it up. 

I've built a hundred PCs in 25 years, maybe.  About 20 just in the past four years.  Some of those have had Intel inside of them, despite my distrust of that company; I just couldn't make all my friends and relatives wanting a PC understand that favoring a company such as Intel is just wrong.  They don't deserve to get the business from folks who believe in fair competition. 

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Hey Gorath don't get on here to pick a fight with somebody,



For your information since you want to get technical about stuff and act the computer genius, Pentium processors have been officially supported for gaming for years, there have been literally *Ton's* of games that require a pentium processor. I used a pentiuum 4 processor for 5 years playing neverwinter nights!



I'm curious how you want to act all technical with your misguided knowledge yet you seem to express merely opinion with AMD processors, Jeesh let's all pretend Intel just dosen't exit at all.



It might be hard for you to figure out how much memory your motherboard can handle yet it seems pretty simple to me. There is a thing called system specs, and an owners manual you know if you can read.



For your info: 32bit os systems only supporting 3.2gb, NO-your wrong there to, It all depends on your mother board and how many Dimm slots you have, some boards support 6gigs.



Now do me a favor, quick acting like your so smart, and shut the H*ll up. It seems you can't even get on forums to help people anymore without people like you trolling around.

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Oh wow! I just notice Gorath dosen't have any Dragon Age data online at all- Is somebody not even playing the game? No characters, No screenshots, somebody dosen't even need to be on here at all!

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Malak Darkhunter wrote...

Oh wow! I just notice Gorath dosen't have any Dragon Age data online at all-

I turned all that Mickey Mouse stuff off the day I installed.

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 11 décembre 2009 - 06:54 .


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Malak Darkhunter wrote...

Oh wow! I just notice Gorath dosen't have any Dragon Age data online at all- Is somebody not even playing the game? No characters, No screenshots, somebody dosen't even need to be on here at all!


No need to go that way Malak, Gorath gives advises pretty well.

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It's like this, I have built computers, played top of the line games for years, Don't tell me I'm wrong, I know what works, I have even made modules using toolsets before, I know what works.



Don't get on here and start trash talking people, acting like your some genius when you yourself are wrong.

There was no post on here that Gorath made that actually tried to help with this person's problem. He basically came on here and started trolling everybody.

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Titius.Vibius wrote...

No need to go that  way, Malak, Gorath gives advises pretty well.

No excuse.  Too harsh, whether accurate or not.  Not sure if it relates to recently getting too little sleep (seldom been a problem in winter before), but the past week I keep waking up in the middle of the night.  I've thought I'd modify the harsh tone, but  I believe I'll restart from scratch (done, now). 

It is a fact that I object to anyone's apron strings, especially an outfit I don't trust, such as EA, so accepted no DLC, and cut short any and all logging in to / from the game.  That's my preference. 

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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 14 décembre 2009 - 02:32 .