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[shyguy1012]

I recently bought Dragon Age: Origins, and I have to say it is the
worst game I have ever played. The camera angles are horrible, it is
too difficult on any setting, the controls are just bad, friendly AI is
dumber than a box of rocks, and it's just not fun to play. This game
does not feel like it was play tested, or was play tested by extreme
gamers. You know the kind that aren't happy unless it takes them three
hours to play through level one on nightmare setting. I'll give you a
hint: most gamers are like me. They are casual gamers who only want
spend two to three day beat a game. At the rate I'm going it might take
me two to three months if I don't cheat. Here are somethings to keep in
mind when you make Dragon Age 2.

              Camera angles
and controls are dated and need to be updated. The WADS for the
computer are the best. It's better than a game-pad for most games. Move
your mouse left and look left. Move your mouse look right and look
right. Strafe right and move backwards at the same time. If you're like
me you can do a lot of things at once. Strafe right, while aiming,
while crouching, while firing my weapon and taking a sip of coffee.
It's not 1990 anymore and since then Diablo and Elder Scrolls have
happened. Real time direct control over your sword is possible. While
it kind of worked for Knight of the Old Republic, it wasn't as fun as
the other Jedi titles. In my opinion, watching a fight is less fun than
participating in one. As for camera angle look no farther then your
recent title Mass Effect. That would be the perfect angle. Can you
imagine the blood shed up close and personal? Instead, most of your
time is spent far from the action.

        The friendly AI in
Knights of the Old Republic is excellent. They use their powers and
abilities as often as possible. While they don't use health packs, you
can compensate by using the Jedi power heal. In Mass Effect you can
lead Wrex to cover, but that doesn't mean he will use it wisely. Again
you can compensate by taking direct control of your character aim and
kill the leftover bad guys. In Dragon Age your friends run straight
into an ambush. They almost never use their powers and never use manna
or health potions. Turning off tactics is only a half step better. Hit
and fade tactics are useless, because it's a turn based game. Two vs
one means that's two hits to my one. What could be a winnable battle,
ends up being suicide mission. For the most part I feel like I am
babysitting four characters, instead of taking care of my own. Friendly
AI is only one of the things that makes this game so difficult. Injury
kits are a rare find and you can't
buy a ton of them. As the saying goes you might win the battle, but end up losing the war.

 
      Okay, you get the point. I really did not like Dragon Age. To me
the flaws of this game gave me a headache. If I could, I would have
returned it for a different one. Hopefully Mass Effect 2 will makeup
for this game.

[The Demonologist]

Well, not to be dismissive as per usual to this kind of post (What else can be done? Why bother telling us these things) but very well. Have fun not playing.



Different type of camera, different type of game, not a shooter. The mistaken assumption that most gamers are like you is belied by the amount of appreciation and positive reviews, both player and critical, the game has received.



Are there others similar to yourself? Yes. FPS Players primarily. It's simple really. Just play games that are FPSes, or Hybrids such as Mass Effect. In fact, Oblivion, like you said, would be another game you should play.



This is not a case of terrible game. This is a case of a player that does not like a certain style of gameplay unwittingly buying a game with just that style.



Difference is not deficient, and those words ring extremely true in the case of dragon age.

[JasonPogo]

"The camera angles are horrible, it is

too difficult on any setting, the controls are just bad, friendly AI is

dumber than a box of rocks,"



That is as far as I got. You need to go sit down and learn how to play games. As long as you take the time to figure out the battle system you should be fine.

[Jensonagain]

Camera angles
- Camera angles are fine, however I do agree with you that there should of been mount & blade, jedi knight style control over the swing of weapons of block of shields. That would be epic.

Friendly AI
- I agree that the control over your party memebers is EXTREMELY limited. I mean it's so hard just to make certain people in your party always kill mages first followed by archers.   It just doesn't work most of the time because of how enemy mobs trigger in sub groups rather than all at the same time.   Hold position should be unique to each companion.  Also hold position shouldn't mean "Stay there and don't even move 1 foot to hit any enemy".. LOL.  THere should be an option called "hold immediate area".

But here is the thing. Despite the above two things. THE STORY IN THE GAME IS AMAZING.

And you can still flank people in combat which is something I really enjoy.

This is still one of the best RPG's I've ever played.

[Zibon]

Mass Effect is more of a shooter than an RPG. It sounds like you just don't like tactical RPGs.



That said, it would be glorious if the game were more like Mount and Blade (at least with the controls and scope of battles.)

[Sloth Of Doom]

shyguy1012 wrote...

I recently bought Dragon Age: Origins, and I have to say it is the
worst game I have ever played. The camera angles are horrible, it is
too difficult on any setting, the controls are just bad, friendly AI is
dumber than a box of rocks, and it's just not fun to play. This game
does not feel like it was play tested, or was play tested by extreme
gamers. You know the kind that aren't happy unless it takes them three
hours to play through level one on nightmare setting. I'll give you a
hint: most gamers are like me. They are casual gamers who only want
spend two to three day beat a game. At the rate I'm going it might take
me two to three months if I don't cheat. Here are somethings to keep in
mind when you make Dragon Age 2.

The camera angles are fully customizeable, point and click mouseplay is about as simple as you can get and the friendly AI is meant to be set up through tactics.

Also, did you just complain that the game is too long?  Yeah, getting value for your money sucks.

              Camera angles
and controls are dated and need to be updated. The WADS for the
computer are the best. It's better than a game-pad for most games. Move
your mouse left and look left. Move your mouse look right and look
right. Strafe right and move backwards at the same time. If you're like
me you can do a lot of things at once. Strafe right, while aiming,
while crouching, while firing my weapon and taking a sip of coffee.
It's not 1990 anymore and since then Diablo and Elder Scrolls have
happened. Real time direct control over your sword is possible. While
it kind of worked for Knight of the Old Republic, it wasn't as fun as
the other Jedi titles. In my opinion, watching a fight is less fun than
participating in one. As for camera angle look no farther then your
recent title Mass Effect. That would be the perfect angle. Can you
imagine the blood shed up close and personal? Instead, most of your
time is spent far from the action.

Not an FPS, don't expect FPS controls.  As already stated, camera angles are fully customizeable, maybe you should actually play the game before commenting on it.

        The friendly AI in
Knights of the Old Republic is excellent. They use their powers and
abilities as often as possible. While they don't use health packs, you
can compensate by using the Jedi power heal. In Mass Effect you can
lead Wrex to cover, but that doesn't mean he will use it wisely. Again
you can compensate by taking direct control of your character aim and
kill the leftover bad guys. In Dragon Age your friends run straight
into an ambush. They almost never use their powers and never use manna
or health potions. Turning off tactics is only a half step better. Hit
and fade tactics are useless, because it's a turn based game. Two vs
one means that's two hits to my one. What could be a winnable battle,
ends up being suicide mission. For the most part I feel like I am
babysitting four characters, instead of taking care of my own. Friendly
AI is only one of the things that makes this game so difficult. Injury
kits are a rare find and you can't
buy a ton of them. As the saying goes you might win the battle, but end up losing the war.

Learn to use the tactics settings.  Also, this game is not turn based.  As for injury kits, you can make unlimited quantities of them, or you can go to camp to heal, or you can get spells to heal injuries.

  

  Okay, you get the point. I really did not like Dragon Age. To me
the flaws of this game gave me a headache. If I could, I would have
returned it for a different one. Hopefully Mass Effect 2 will makeup
for this game.

Ok, you get the point.  I really did not like your post.  To me it seems like every complaint you have about the game is either because you fail to use 90% of the features of the game or you expect it to be an 2 hour FPS game.

Modifié par Sloth Of Doom, 10 décembre 2009 - 12:40 .

[DaeFaron]

You can easily buy plenty of potions and injury kits.

[Titius.Vibius]

Suck less, play better that's all I can say. DAO is not your regular RPG, it makes you think unlike a dumb hackfest.

[Null]

That's cool man go play something else then.

[AshedMan]

Must resist urge to say something negative about the OP's gaming skills.

[Elystia]

[quote]Sloth Of Doom wrote...

[quote]shyguy1012 wrote...

I recently bought Dragon Age: Origins, and I have to say it is the
worst game I have ever played. The camera angles are horrible, it is
too difficult on any setting, the controls are just bad, friendly AI is
dumber than a box of rocks, and it's just not fun to play. This game
does not feel like it was play tested, or was play tested by extreme
gamers. You know the kind that aren't happy unless it takes them three
hours to play through level one on nightmare setting. I'll give you a
hint: most gamers are like me. They are casual gamers who only want
spend two to three day beat a game. At the rate I'm going it might take
me two to three months if I don't cheat. Here are somethings to keep in
mind when you make Dragon Age 2. [/quote]
The camera angles are fully customizeable, point and click mouseplay is about as simple as you can get and the friendly AI is meant to be set up through tactics.

Also, did you just complain that the game is too long?  Yeah, getting value for your money sucks.
[quote]
          


ROFL!

[Adria Teksuni]

Really doesn't sound like it's your type of game, and for that I am sorry as it has a great story and I enjoyed it very much. It isn't a straightforward shooter type game, it is a tactical RPG, and that makes a huge difference. Also, if your party isn't healing enough, make sure to put the Use Health Poultice higher up in the Tactics slots and maybe at a higher percentage. The only time I have a problem with my party not using poultices is when I've been stupid and run out in the middle of a major fight.

[OneBadAssMother]

That said, it would be glorious if the game were more like Mount and Blade (at least with the controls and scope of battles.)

That would halt the entire world's production for weeks and the word "Dragon Age" would then be considered a worthwhile sickie excuse - cause your boss would also be doing the same. xD

Also, did you just complain that the game is too long? Yeah, getting value for your money sucks.

Haha, great post.

[Xiioware]

Besides the environment graphics its a fine game

[Creature 1]

This is not a FPS. It's a party-based RPG. You're expected to control each member of your party. You're expected to spend much of each battle paused. I'm not sure what you mean about 2 vs. 1 odds. You have party members, have them help out. If you mean you're being attacked by 8 people to your 4 party members, well, you need to learn to use crowd control. Check out the mage spells that stun, freeze, or disorient targets. Check out the melee skills that knock back and knock down opponents. Check out the dog's stunning howl.



If you really only want a FPS, yes, you won't like the game, but that's not because it's a bad game. It's because you picked the wrong genre.

[HeathenKing]

Congratulations, not a single person on this site cares for you or your opinions.

[whtnyte-raernst]

So it's not "twitchy" enough, it's too long (*GASP* more gamplay for your buck, what a horror) and I bet the lack of photo realistic graphics and rag doll physics drives you crazy too. If it's not your kind of game, fine...stear clear of anything labeled FANTASY role playing game in the future. We really don't need to hear about it though.

[Astorax]

To those attacking the OP as opposed to actually being civil.

Watch yourselves. No matter the opinion, you have no right to flame another poster no matter what they've said.

If you think they violated the ToS or EULA with what they posted, that's another matter. Notify a mod or report the post and move on.

Again, flaming isn't tolerated. HeathenKing, consider this your warning. Continue to post as such and you'll be taking a nice break. Titius.Vibius and JasonPogo, you both are out of line as well. Seriously, if you can't be civil, walk away. Flaming isn't acceptable.

Modifié par Astorax, 10 décembre 2009 - 12:53 .

[Mehow_pwn]

Typical.. FPS types..... nothing more to add here then something negetive about him... (even tho I myself love FPS I Still love this game so much!)  Altho It is his fault that he didn't read into the game from reviews or anything...

[mod edit: removed insult]

Modifié par Jesse van Herk, 10 décembre 2009 - 07:58 .

[Jensonagain]

Guys let's be real.

The combat system in this game isn't that great.

I mean "scattershot", an arrow explodes into small pieces and stuns everyone? LOL

The games strength is in the story and not in the combat, and definitely not in the "Tactics" for your AI companions.

The game forces you to rely on healing and healing potions. That is not much of a combat system.

Modifié par Jensonagain, 10 décembre 2009 - 01:05 .

[Howling_Fist]

If this is the worst game you've ever played, then I feel compelled to ask. How many games outside the FPS/hybrid Genre have you played? You have just compared KotoR to the Jedi Knight series, both completely different genres, as if they were direct sequels.



From reading your post I can see that you dislike the game, and maybe this type of game simply doesn't mesh with your playstyle, thats fair enough. If you feel like you are "babysitting" perhaps it is because you have not quite caught on to the fact that this is a party based game, you are supposed to keep an eye on your party members. Or if you dislike the micro mangement, then the tactics menu lets you decide exactly how a party member fights. It seems that you simply have trouble adapting your tactics, and therefore blame the game.



Take a few hours, slow down and adapt your tactics to suit your surroundings. One cannot always fight under conditions favourable to oneself, learn new tactics adapt and overcome.



And for the record please try not to state opinion as fact. While many pc based gamers prefer the keyboard and mouse setup for games. In my opinion an analog stick is a superior movement tool, but the mouse is far better at precision aiming so go figure. I am both a PC and console gamer, and I can tell you now, there is no perfect control method, only one that best fits the player. You should not call a game bad because it doesn't control the way you would like, adapt and overcome.

[Blue_dodo]

Howling_Fist wrote...

If this is the worst game you've ever played, then I feel compelled to ask. How many games outside the FPS/hybrid Genre have you played? You have just compared KotoR to the Jedi Knight series, both completely different genres, as if they were direct sequels.

From reading your post I can see that you dislike the game, and maybe this type of game simply doesn't mesh with your playstyle, thats fair enough. If you feel like you are "babysitting" perhaps it is because you have not quite caught on to the fact that this is a party based game, you are supposed to keep an eye on your party members. Or if you dislike the micro mangement, then the tactics menu lets you decide exactly how a party member fights. It seems that you simply have trouble adapting your tactics, and therefore blame the game.

Take a few hours, slow down and adapt your tactics to suit your surroundings. One cannot always fight under conditions favourable to oneself, learn new tactics adapt and overcome.

And for the record please try not to state opinion as fact. While many pc based gamers prefer the keyboard and mouse setup for games. In my opinion an analog stick is a superior movement tool, but the mouse is far better at precision aiming so go figure. I am both a PC and console gamer, and I can tell you now, there is no perfect control method, only one that best fits the player. You should not call a game bad because it doesn't control the way you would like, adapt and overcome.

hmm wow said it better then I could

I...I have nothing to add

[Dex1701]

OP, it's too bad that Dragon Age isn't your type of game. I happen to love this type of game (along with just about every other type if it's done well), so I can't relate. I'd suggest doing more research before buying next time. I personally found the gameplay in Mass Effect to be a bit shallow for me, so this was a really nice change of pace. Lovin' it.

Modifié par Dex1701, 10 décembre 2009 - 01:35 .

[Skellimancer]

shyguy1012 wrote...

I recently bought Dragon Age: Origins, and I have to say it is the
worst game I have ever played. The camera angles are horrible, it is
too difficult on any setting

Stopped reading there.

[Shadow_Viper]

shyguy1012 wrote...

I recently bought Dragon Age: Origins, and I have to say it is the
worst game I have ever played. The camera angles are horrible, it is
too difficult on any setting, the controls are just bad, friendly AI is
dumber than a box of rocks, and it's just not fun to play. This game
does not feel like it was play tested, or was play tested by extreme
gamers. You know the kind that aren't happy unless it takes them three
hours to play through level one on nightmare setting. I'll give you a
hint: most gamers are like me. They are casual gamers who only want
spend two to three day beat a game. At the rate I'm going it might take
me two to three months if I don't cheat. Here are somethings to keep in
mind when you make Dragon Age 2.

              Camera angles
and controls are dated and need to be updated. The WADS for the
computer are the best. It's better than a game-pad for most games. Move
your mouse left and look left. Move your mouse look right and look
right. Strafe right and move backwards at the same time. If you're like
me you can do a lot of things at once. Strafe right, while aiming,
while crouching, while firing my weapon and taking a sip of coffee.
It's not 1990 anymore and since then Diablo and Elder Scrolls have
happened. Real time direct control over your sword is possible. While
it kind of worked for Knight of the Old Republic, it wasn't as fun as
the other Jedi titles. In my opinion, watching a fight is less fun than
participating in one. As for camera angle look no farther then your
recent title Mass Effect. That would be the perfect angle. Can you
imagine the blood shed up close and personal? Instead, most of your
time is spent far from the action.

        The friendly AI in
Knights of the Old Republic is excellent. They use their powers and
abilities as often as possible. While they don't use health packs, you
can compensate by using the Jedi power heal. In Mass Effect you can
lead Wrex to cover, but that doesn't mean he will use it wisely. Again
you can compensate by taking direct control of your character aim and
kill the leftover bad guys. In Dragon Age your friends run straight
into an ambush. They almost never use their powers and never use manna
or health potions. Turning off tactics is only a half step better. Hit
and fade tactics are useless, because it's a turn based game. Two vs
one means that's two hits to my one. What could be a winnable battle,
ends up being suicide mission. For the most part I feel like I am
babysitting four characters, instead of taking care of my own. Friendly
AI is only one of the things that makes this game so difficult. Injury
kits are a rare find and you can't
buy a ton of them. As the saying goes you might win the battle, but end up losing the war.

 
      Okay, you get the point. I really did not like Dragon Age. To me
the flaws of this game gave me a headache. If I could, I would have
returned it for a different one. Hopefully Mass Effect 2 will makeup
for this game.

If you don't like the game, then don't play it. It's that simple, the choice does not require running to the forums and whining.

IFSW

Modifié par Shadow_Viper, 10 décembre 2009 - 01:47 .