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[Black Kracken]

Can I have all your stuff?

[Bomfy]

Just sounds like it's not your cup of tea, that's a bummer. It doesn't need to be an full on total control of you weapons games or a fast twitcher. It was never claimed to be either. On a personal note, why is that every game has to fit into one mold? It's cool if one style is your favorite, but if that was the only flavor you could get, it would get old quickly.



I haven't had a problem with the camera I just spin my center button and it's adjusted to my liking.



I have had issue with the AI, but the only aggravating thing is they always seem to want to attack the last thing on the kill list. That's not a hard thing to overcome, just give them something else to do/kill. I'm also the type of person that will move my guys so I can fire something off or get behind, so I like it.



I will agree partially about the difficulty, I originally expected normal to be your stander issue cakewalk to start, but was happily surprised it's a challenge. I will say it now, I will likely only ever dabble on Nightmare, I'm not a glutton for punishment.



It's a great game, and sadly nothing on earth can make 100% of the people happy 100% of the time.

[II Relics II]

I think most of your problems are simple fixes.



You can control the camera angle to any angle you want so I am not sure how you are having problems.



AI is meant to be set up through the tactics menu (press \\ to access if you have it on PC refer to you game manual on a console version). There you can make you characters do many things and if it doesn't cover your specific needs, that is what the Pause feature is for.



I hope you stick around, and enjoy the game since it is very fun once you get a better understanding of the controls.



P.S. I don't know what to say about the difficulty except to use the pause feature more; I know it is different than the constant action compared to a FPS but it will save you a headache and you will get used to it.



Again I hope you give it another try.

[Magic Zarim]

You can still control the game in an FPS-like manner with the character you're currently controlling. With the scrollwheel on your mouse you can zoom in rather close, or back off the camera. By holding the right button and then move the mouse, you can look around you. Only when you fully zoom out the camera, it switches to top-down view.



I prefer the FPS style of play more than the top-down view and I won't zoom out the camera to the max most of the time. Only if I need to target something that's either too far, or covered by something. If you play a melee character, then by zooming in the camera close enough to your selected character, then you can still feel like you're 'in' the battle, rather than experiencing it from above like a god controlling puppets.

[Maconbar]

I thought that this game was very similar in gameplay to KOTOR.

[DarwinJames]

"I'll give you a hint: most gamers are like me. They are casual gamers who only want

spend two to three day beat a game."



Never did understand this thing about "beat a game." A game you can "beat" was probably not worth playing in the first place.



Two or three days? Two or three months, or two or three years is more like it for DAO. There is just a lot of game here.



For a real thrill, trudge on over and "beat" WoW or EVE Online.

[Soretooth]

The OP should realize by now that most people on this forum love playing DA:O, despite any problems with unfamiliarity or with hardware problems.



I like playing FPS games, but they're mostly episodic. You can dive right in, shoot and maim to your heart's content for a few minutes, and then do something else to shake off the rush of adrenaline.



DA:O and most RPG games aren't of the same ilk as Shooters. They take time to develop the character(s) from A to Z. If one is disinclined to devote the time and effort to do this, then this style of game will most likely seem like a chore.



Overall, IMO, DA:O is the best game I've ever played. It's not miles ahead of some of my favorites, but it's in the lead. Too bad it just isn't to some people's liking. That's no reason to rant against it on a public forum where the vast majority would rather jump on the flame wagon than not, in defense of their wonderful experiences with the game.

[orpheus333]

DarwinJames wrote...
For a real thrill, trudge on over and "beat" WoW or EVE Online.

I thought GoonFleet 'beat' Eve Online a year ago?

[Titanmike357]

I wish the game was longer, much longer I finished my first time through at 42 hours, but i did not do all the side quests.



My second play is at 35 hours and I have done more side quests and all the DLC, I am looking at 37-40 hours on it, because I skipped some dialog.



My 3rd ( dalish ) 4th ( dwarf ) and 5th ( dwarf ) and 6th ( magi ) will all be around 35-40 hours.



So even counting just what i have play so far I am at ( 42+35= 77 ) 77 hours, I paid $52 for the game, I have gotten more than a 1 to 1 value ( dollar spent to hour played ) so far, like i said I plan on at least doing one more play soon ( one for each race/story )



No, the game is very, very easy on easy, just right on normal and I have not been past normal.



Camera seems fine to me.

[Gidzen]

Mueller86 wrote...

That's cool man go play something else then.

Yea, go waste 50 bucks on something else; The rest of us liked spending money this type of crap!!!!

[Viglin]

Op sounds like a kid who lives in the "fast food age" of NOW.



And a casual gamer DOES NOT look to beat a game in a record time...thats a power gamer.

Casual gamers for the most part like taking their time and usually only fave a few hours at a time to play.

They actually end up getting the most out of the game as they dont hurdle past everything at break neck speed...and end up getting the best value for money expereince from a game due to the slow pace they set themselves.



Op,....you are not a casual gamer, no offense.

[Titanmike357]

andyr1986 wrote...

DarwinJames wrote...
For a real thrill, trudge on over and "beat" WoW or EVE Online.

I thought GoonFleet 'beat' Eve Online a year ago?

I was there when goonswarm* ( I think it was goodswarm ) destroyed B.O.B from inside, the game hs not been the same since, but I quit some time ago.

Ahh memories, I remember when 60 was max level, and MC was the end all be all, and only the leet raiders got to go, no level 80's solo it.

[montana_boy]

"I recently bought Dragon Age: Origins, and I have to say it is the

worst game I have ever played. The camera angles are horrible, it is

too difficult on any setting, the controls are just bad, friendly AI is

dumber than a box of rocks, and it's just not fun to play"

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Well it sounds that you are not a very patient man. I love this game and I am playing it slowly, trying to find all the side quests and solving them... talking to as many NPC's that will talk back to me. I am not more than 20% into my first play-through. I will be playing the complete game several times through using diff char/class.



This is the best game I have played over the last 5-years and that includes WoW.

[Lacan2]

Stop complaining infidel! It's a very good game! (just kidding)



But honestly, hard to see how it could be the worst game you've ever played. Unless you only play GOTY.

[Sferzar]

I  understand is that if you did not like the game, fine, thats just you and your preferences. But why did you waste your time registering here? Posting here? If I were you, I would just return the game and get on with my life.

Modifié par Sferzar, 10 décembre 2009 - 08:09 .

[Sylvius the Mad]

shyguy1012 wrote...

because it's a turn based game.

And here you demonstrate that you have no idea how the game works.

[rabbitchannel]

shyguy1012 wrote...

I recently bought Dragon Age: Origins, and I have to say it is the
worst game I have ever played. The camera angles are horrible, it is
too difficult on any setting, the controls are just bad, friendly AI is
dumber than a box of rocks, and it's just not fun to play. This game
does not feel like it was play tested, or was play tested by extreme
gamers. You know the kind that aren't happy unless it takes them three
hours to play through level one on nightmare setting. I'll give you a
hint: most gamers are like me. They are casual gamers who only want
spend two to three day beat a game. At the rate I'm going it might take
me two to three months if I don't cheat. Here are somethings to keep in
mind when you make Dragon Age 2.

I think the camera angles are great. In fact, everything short of shooter-style is implemented. I also found how the camera would lock onto a character once it reaches the middle of the screen quite pleasing. I notice how you never stated what angle you would want. What, you want it from your boot's POV or something?
      

shyguy1012 wrote...
       Camera angles
and controls are dated and need to be updated. The WADS for the
computer are the best. It's better than a game-pad for most games. Move
your mouse left and look left. Move your mouse look right and look
right. Strafe right and move backwards at the same time. If you're like
me you can do a lot of things at once. Strafe right, while aiming,
while crouching, while firing my weapon and taking a sip of coffee.
It's not 1990 anymore and since then Diablo and Elder Scrolls have
happened. Real time direct control over your sword is possible. While
it kind of worked for Knight of the Old Republic, it wasn't as fun as
the other Jedi titles. In my opinion, watching a fight is less fun than
participating in one. As for camera angle look no farther then your
recent title Mass Effect. That would be the perfect angle. Can you
imagine the blood shed up close and personal? Instead, most of your
time is spent far from the action.

Do you realize that you are complaining about how an RPG is not a shooter? While I'm trying not to let insults fly, frankly, I think you deserve all the criticism. I don't want WADS. I'd rather click at a point far away and let the character run to that point than have to keep my finger down on W. Shooter-type views are not convenient for RPGs. You want to cast Blizzard? How exactly are you supposed to pinpoint the area when you're limited by the shooter view? You want to zoom out, pan the camera forward and select, clearly, where you want it to be. If enemies were not highlighted when they come under the selection for an AoE, casting it in shooter would be ridiculous due to the angle. Think a little. ME didn't have AoE selection. You shot into a cluster and everything in the area was taken out. Dragon Age combat is more complicated. You want up close and personal? Scroll in. It's essentially the KotoR view. Strafing? In an RPG? You're joking right?

shyguy1012 wrote...
        The friendly AI in
Knights of the Old Republic is excellent. They use their powers and
abilities as often as possible. While they don't use health packs, you
can compensate by using the Jedi power heal. In Mass Effect you can
lead Wrex to cover, but that doesn't mean he will use it wisely. Again
you can compensate by taking direct control of your character aim and
kill the leftover bad guys. In Dragon Age your friends run straight
into an ambush. They almost never use their powers and never use manna
or health potions. Turning off tactics is only a half step better. Hit
and fade tactics are useless, because it's a turn based game. Two vs
one means that's two hits to my one. What could be a winnable battle,
ends up being suicide mission. For the most part I feel like I am
babysitting four characters, instead of taking care of my own. Friendly
AI is only one of the things that makes this game so difficult. Injury
kits are a rare find and you can't
buy a ton of them. As the saying goes you might win the battle, but end up losing the war.

The bold sentences alone tell me you don't know what you are doing. If you don't even know how to set up tactics effectively, it's no surprise that it'll take you 2-3 months for one run through. I've had it less than a month and I'm on my 3rd playthrough. I did it hard and then the next two on nightmare. 

I had to adjust my tactics a second time because I set my guys to use their powers too often and the warriors didn't have enough sta to use a needed late battle skill or Morrigan was chugging too many mana potions. You realize that you can set them to use the powers and potions, yes? How you cannot manage this is beyond me. You can tell your party where to go, you know. If you were surprised by an ambush, it is because you didn't see it coming and didn't prepare for it. Not the AI's fault. There is a recipe for injury kits.

 

shyguy1012 wrote...
      Okay, you get the point. I really did not like Dragon Age. To me
the flaws of this game gave me a headache. If I could, I would have
returned it for a different one. Hopefully Mass Effect 2 will makeup
for this game.

The reasons why you are having such a hard time:
1. Plain ignorance. You don't know how to use tactics. You don't know how to use the camera. You don't know about recipes. 
2. You blame AI for poor decision making. Strategic positioning is your area. AI doesn't automatically know if there will be an ambush. You do. It's your job to prepare for it. That, plus your inability to make proper tactics settings, will put you up for a fall, most certainly. Master Ignacio says, "who do you blame? the sword or the swordsman?".
3. You skip a lot of important gameplay aspects (recipes, etc) or just don't know how to use the tools you are given. The only thing that escaped me the first time around was that you're able to drag the quickslot bar all the way to the right. 
4.You're playing an rpg expecting a shooter. Nothing else needs to be said.

Your thread baffles me.
 

Modifié par rabbitchannel, 10 décembre 2009 - 08:30 .

[montana_boy]

Good post rab****annel

[Adria Teksuni]

As the OP has not returned to this, nor seemingly any other thread, I propose he was attempting to troll and the issue be dropped.

[Arvay5]

if this is the worst game you have ever played then you do not play many games do you? Try to play Battletoads (= im sure you will change your mind after that

[Creature 1]

DarwinJames wrote...

"I'll give you a hint: most gamers are like me. They are casual gamers who only want
spend two to three day beat a game."

Never did understand this thing about "beat a game." A game you can "beat" was probably not worth playing in the first place.

Two or three days? Two or three months, or two or three years is more like it for DAO. There is just a lot of game here.

For a real thrill, trudge on over and "beat" WoW or EVE Online.

I missed this part earlier.  You cannot "beat" a RPG.  You can't "beat" a real-time or turn-based strategy game.  FPS are not *the* standard type of game.  Theyr'e one genre.  They are very successful, but so are RPGs (Baldur's Gate), real-time strategy games (Age of Empires), and turn-based strategy games (Master of Orion).  Heck, if you want to look at the most commercially successful game series, it's not a FPS, it's The Sims.  None of these games are beatable.  So you "beat" Age of Empires--with what nation? with what map? with what options? against what opponents? with how many? with what victory conditions?  Same with Baldur's Gate--did you try every combination of classes and builds?  And how do you win at The Sims?    My definition of a good game is not one that I can play from the beginning to the end of the story in 6 hours and be done with it.  That's my definition of a real waste of money.  If that's what you want, rent games, don't buy. 

And combat in most RPG's is either reminescent of real-time strategy style (DA:O) or turn-based strategy style (Neverwinter Nights, with combat rounds), not FPS-style.  The real-time strategy game with combat that most reminds me of DA:O combat is Rise of Legends.  The FPS-style "RPGs" I can think of are not really RPGs, like Oblivion.  If you want FPS-style combat, don't buy a RPG. 

[SheffSteel]

Most gamers want a game that can be beaten within two to three days?

Well, most gamers didn't buy DA:O, so as far as I'm concerned, all is well with the world.

i swear, some people find the strangest things to complain about.

[Fluffykeith]

Why is it that just about every complaint thread on these forums starts with a massive rant that attacks just about every aspect of the game without actually really explaining what's wrong with those aspects, and generally shows either a lack of understanding about how the damn thing works or that the poster can't be bothered to play the game they've got rather than wishing it was something else?

[igniteip]

I am sorry OP. DA:O is not Ms. Pacman.

[simpatikool]

Trying working on your Cunning. Advance it a couple of tics and try playing again.