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What is the Talon ejecting after every shot?


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JaegerBane

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I've been fiddling with my loadout for a while now, trying new things that I initially discounted but are now feasible options since I got rid of the weight mechanic.

The Talon is rapidly becoming a choice option for me, since it functions like an upgraded Scimitar, but also because it looks awesome :P

I have noticed, however, that after every shot it's ejecting what looks like thermal clip or even a shell casing (i.e. as oppose to ejecting the clip on a reload)... anyone have any idea what it is? A bug?

Modifié par JaegerBane, 18 mai 2012 - 04:09 .


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Xhantus

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 From the ME wiki: "The Talon is a close-range pistol favored by Cerberus Guardians. Firing heavy-gauge shotgun pellets, it delivers massive trauma to unarmored targets. Its waste heat is sufficiently excessive that it carries six separate ammunition blocks, rotating like a twentieth-century revolver to prevent shaver jam or misfire due to premature melting of the shot."

I haven't used it myself but I suspect what you're seeing after each shot is the shell casing.

Modifié par Xhantus, 18 mai 2012 - 05:27 .


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JaegerBane

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Xhantus wrote...

 From the ME wiki: "The Talon is a close-range pistol favored by Cerberus Guardians. Firing heavy-gauge shotgun pellets, it delivers massive trauma to unarmored targets. Its waste heat is sufficiently excessive that it carries six separate ammunition blocks, rotating like a twentieth-century revolver to prevent shaver jam or misfire due to premature melting of the shot."

I haven't used it myself but I suspect what you're seeing after each shot is the shell casing.


I've a hard time believing that. I assumed it was something similar to the ME2 YMIR mech's mass accelerator heat sinks, related to the high heat buildup... that, or its a bug. The idea its using actual antique shotgun shells is a bit ridiculous... the description I assumed was related to being mentioned in the context of the game i.e. where shotguns are mass accelerator weapons :blink:

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StarcloudSWG

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Either a bug or an animation oversight. Someone forgetting that mass effect weapons don't use chemically powered bullets.

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JaegerBane wrote...

Xhantus wrote...

 From the ME wiki: "The Talon is a close-range pistol favored by Cerberus Guardians. Firing heavy-gauge shotgun pellets, it delivers massive trauma to unarmored targets. Its waste heat is sufficiently excessive that it carries six separate ammunition blocks, rotating like a twentieth-century revolver to prevent shaver jam or misfire due to premature melting of the shot."

I haven't used it myself but I suspect what you're seeing after each shot is the shell casing.


I've a hard time believing that. I assumed it was something similar to the ME2 YMIR mech's mass accelerator heat sinks, related to the high heat buildup... that, or its a bug. The idea its using actual antique shotgun shells is a bit ridiculous... the description I assumed was related to being mentioned in the context of the game i.e. where shotguns are mass accelerator weapons :blink:


It's an artistic thing.  Back in the day on a WH40K forum I was on, we argued about why bolt guns ejected shell casings even though they shot caseless ammo. It's purely for looks.

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It ejects TIM's tears.

Modifié par Kronner, 18 mai 2012 - 07:52 .


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It's legit as a far as I have come across... It uses shaver blocks, if you read the codex entry there. The original codex entry for Mass Effect states:

"In Mass Effect, to generate ammunition a weapon shaves a projectile the size of a sand grain from a dense block of metal contained within the weapon's body."

Mass Effect 2 expands on this for the Eviscerator shotgun, going as far as to say this:

"Where most modern firearms shave off chips or pellets from an ammunition block, the M-22 shaves off serrated metal wedges designed to fly aerodynamically."

That seems to be heavy-gauge shotgun pellets under a different name.

As such, what they're saying about the Talon is that it carries six of these ammunition blocks (probably smaller than the original shotgun blocks - possibly one block split down into six) in order to reduce the amount of heat generated when the pellets are shaved off it.

After all, it's in ME1 codex as well that omni-gel (and later ME2's omni-tool codices) that there are field manufacturing kits for ammunition for things like the Cain and so forth - It seems the thermal clip is not the thing that is reloaded, but the blocks of ammunition themselves.

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ArcTrooper1773 wrote...
As such, what they're saying about the Talon is that it carries six of these ammunition blocks (probably smaller than the original shotgun blocks - possibly one block split down into six) in order to reduce the amount of heat generated when the pellets are shaved off it.

After all, it's in ME1 codex as well that omni-gel (and later ME2's omni-tool codices) that there are field manufacturing kits for ammunition for things like the Cain and so forth - It seems the thermal clip is not the thing that is reloaded, but the blocks of ammunition themselves.


That's not really what the codex is saying. The point behind it having multiple ammo blocks is to avoid any one block from melting due to heat build up - rather than continuously shave off pellets from a block, some are shaved off and the block is then rotated away with a new block is put into place, for every shot - the same principle as to the multiple barrels on an M134 minigun. I mean, think about it - why would they need a full ammo block if the gun just shaved off a few pellets before discarding them? Why not have hundreds of tiny blocks if they're getting ejected after each shot?

To be honest Locutus answered my real question - I was curious as to whether it was a bug or an artistic license. Just wasn't sure why that pistol and that pistol only displayed that kind of behaviour when stuff with far worse heat build-up didn't.