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Hacket and Edi will be in the EC confirmed...(Lance Henriksen talks ME3 ending in a newvideo)


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RocketManSR2 wrote...

I found this topic that has a number of the Twitter accounts for some of the VA in ME3.

http://social.biowar...3/index/8852076


Ooooooh, ace cakes.

Thanks! :D

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hi

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Two things that BW is doing right. Making the EC and using the VA to leak bits of information in its development. I expect the next VA that is called in will release more about it.

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Dendio1 wrote...

mcgreggers99 wrote...

Lance Henriksen and Tricia Helfer have recorded voice-over work for Mass Effect 3's expanded contente.

I knew Tricia had tweeted it, as had Raphael Sbarge, but this is the first time I'd heard about Lance. Here's hoping it's good.

:D

**Edit** It is interesting if you watch the video, Lance is commenting that players felt that the ending was too abrupt when they "Lose." I'm not sure what to make of this really. His interview seems to further poke holes in the Indoctrination theory.

"Usually, when a guy loses the game, the game shuts down; it's over. It's done. The players don't like that,"


also

"I just did another session with them...They were saying there's a little bit of a problem with the abruptness of the ending," Hendriksen said. "So we did a whole series of things to add to the end of the game, to live up to the quality they've been doing."



...side note the press junket was for "TRON - Uprising" if you haven't watched it yet, it's available online here:

I think it's better than the movie they put out.


THis actually helps certain aspects of the indoctrination theory. Currently there is no way to lose. Shepard stops the reapers no matter what choice tyou make, but if one or two of the choices came with a lose condition.......


grub needs to just buy ME3 so I can stop doing these messages for him




"More likely, someone's confused about the definition of winning and losing as a protagonist, and I don't think it's Lance Henrikson. It's Casey Hudson.

You guys should check out Hudson's opinion on Gladiator. It's pretty enlightening. The meaning of Maximus's death does a weird zig-zag over his head. Doesn't fly over his head, just.. kinda goes... wuh? uh? over here? no? maybe.. man, I dunno.

Here is the direct quote:

'..And there's an amazing structural thing that happens in Gladiator around the value system they set up, and what victory means for the hero in that movie, which is, ultimately for him, in the values they set up for him, and, understanding the afterlife and wanting to get there; for him, victory is being able to die and be with his family. And understanding these kinds of things from all through entertainment, and being, uh, being able to break them down into their principles, and then build those principles up up into something fresh... That's what we try to do.'

Which is kinda weird. I understand where his head is. Sorta? He doesn't totally misunderstand Gladiator. There's release for him, to be with his family.. but only because he killed the Emperor and restored the Republic of Rome. Only then is he at peace.

There'd be no triumph for Maximus in death if he just let the Emperor outright kill him and Rome continued to totally bite the big one. It'd be like, 'Hi, family --' 'GET AWAY FROM US YOU LOSER'"

Modifié par M0keys, 18 mai 2012 - 11:34 .


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More hackett? Good, very good. My hopes are starting to slowly rise. I'll only be trully exited when i know i'll see more miranda though, not before. But what are the odds :/
Please bioware, a reunion scene. No words are needed

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Commander congratulations on your progress in building the EC. Keep me updated and good luck. Hackett out.

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...Maybe he counts 'winning the game' as 'losing the game'.

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kratos0294 wrote...

More hackett? Good, very good. My hopes are starting to slowly rise. I'll only be trully exited when i know i'll see more miranda though, not before. But what are the odds :/
Please bioware, a reunion scene. No words are needed


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Hanabii wrote...

...Maybe he counts 'winning the game' as 'losing the game'.

If you replace "loses" with "finishes" in his quote, then it would make some sense. As it is, it makes no sense lol. Games don't "shut down" at game over screens and nobody works on content extending game over screen because why lol? I dunno, either he confused "finishes" with "loses" or he simply never played a game in his life and doesn't exactly know what he's talking about.

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I'm fairly confident that Harbinger is coming for the DLC and will have lines. They are just keeping it under wraps that Keith is involved in the voice recordings.

Modifié par liggy002, 19 mai 2012 - 12:16 .


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liggy002 wrote...

I'm fairly confident that Harbinger is coming for the DLC and will have lines. They are just keeping it under wraps that Keith is involved in the voice recordings.

If there's 1 bit of new gameplay (other than conversations of course) I'm willing to believe they would add, it could be a boos battle with Harby in front of the beam. But it's still a pure guess based on no evidence and considering that they've said themselves that there will be no new gameplay in EC

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Headcount wrote...


Two things that BW is doing right. Making the EC and using the VA to leak bits of information in its development. I expect the next VA that is called in will release more about it.


Except when they do that they lose control of the message and are left at the mercy of the VA's own interpretations. I don't think BW wanted their message to be that players lost the game and there was no oversight. I think if anything their idea was to have it be like what Garrus' VA said which was just a vague "Hey I recorded stuff" message. 

Modifié par LazyTechGuy, 19 mai 2012 - 12:20 .


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Admiral Hackett's return is good. I don't think his quotes poked holes in the IT (or if they did I didn't catch them) but it definitely sounds like bioware actually tried to push this ending off on us...implications unpleasant.

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IsaacShep wrote...

liggy002 wrote...

I'm fairly confident that Harbinger is coming for the DLC and will have lines. They are just keeping it under wraps that Keith is involved in the voice recordings.

If there's 1 bit of new gameplay (other than conversations of course) I'm willing to believe they would add, it could be a boos battle with Harby in front of the beam. But it's still a pure guess based on no evidence and considering that they've said themselves that there will be no new gameplay in EC


Gameplay can mean lots of things. I think most people around here consider that to be combat. If that's the case then dialouge scenes are not gameplay.

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Great news, but one thing that still bugs me: BioWare doesn't seem to really get the problem. "There are problems with the abruptness of the ending in which the player dies and the game cuts off".

They completely ignore all the space-magic? So really just "closure"? Not even polishing dirt? Just adding a cherry on top of the pile of dirt? Great...

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Gameplay can mean lots of things. I think most people around here consider that to be combat. If that's the case then dialouge scenes are not gameplay.

Yep, most people would consider combat/boss battle/new level arena where we're walking around to be "gameplay gameplay". Conversations are partially cutscenes so not the same as pur gameplay with moving your character around. Like I said, Harby boss battle is the only thing I could see them adding, nothing else pure-gameplay wise

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Mr Massakka wrote...

Great news, but one thing that still bugs me: BioWare doesn't seem to really get the problem. "There are problems with the abruptness of the ending in which the player dies and the game cuts off".

They completely ignore all the space-magic? So really just "closure"? Not even polishing dirt? Just adding a cherry on top of the pile of dirt? Great...


Bioware understand the problem. Hendrickson wouldn't have said it otherwise. They wouldn't be doing the Extended Cut if they didn't think they had a problem.

What's that phrase from Bowie's Heroes/Helden?

Dan sind wir Helden, fur einen tag.

We can be heroes, just for one day.


That's what people want. They want to accomplish something.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

By the way Bioware. My offer still stands.

If Miss Strahovski and Miss Black say they are coming back.

I'll do it.

The music I mean.

Not them.

God.


I'd do Yvonne. Hard. And I bet she has a white leather soccer-ball-paterned cat-suit somewhere. Admit it Taboo, I've got you interested now.

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Summer can't come soon enough.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Mr Massakka wrote...

Great news, but one thing that still bugs me: BioWare doesn't seem to really get the problem. "There are problems with the abruptness of the ending in which the player dies and the game cuts off".

They completely ignore all the space-magic? So really just "closure"? Not even polishing dirt? Just adding a cherry on top of the pile of dirt? Great...


Bioware understand the problem. Hendrickson wouldn't have said it otherwise. They wouldn't be doing the Extended Cut if they didn't think they had a problem.

What's that phrase from Bowie's Heroes/Helden?

Dan sind wir Helden, fur einen tag.

We can be heroes, just for one day.


That's what people want. They want to accomplish something.


Harbinger's absence is another major problem.  I hope that they understand that too.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

Mr Massakka wrote...

Great news, but one thing that still bugs me: BioWare doesn't seem to really get the problem. "There are problems with the abruptness of the ending in which the player dies and the game cuts off".

They completely ignore all the space-magic? So really just "closure"? Not even polishing dirt? Just adding a cherry on top of the pile of dirt? Great...


Bioware understand the problem. Hendrickson wouldn't have said it otherwise. They wouldn't be doing the Extended Cut if they didn't think they had a problem.

What's that phrase from Bowie's Heroes/Helden?

Dan sind wir Helden, fur einen tag.

We can be heroes, just for one day.


That's what people want. They want to accomplish something.

Majority doesn't want **** added, they want it removed or at least modified. 
They address the wrong problem with EC.  

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eddieoctane wrote...

I'd do Yvonne. Hard. And I bet she has a white leather soccer-ball-paterned cat-suit somewhere. Admit it Taboo, I've got you interested now.


I have other things I need to be doing actually.

Like cooking something to eat.

I know nothing about her outside of her voice work.

To be honest I really don't care outside of that.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 19 mai 2012 - 12:33 .


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Mr Massakka wrote...
Majority doesn't want **** added, they want it removed or at least modified. 
They address the wrong problem with EC.  


I'm unsure about that. The PR statement is vague and judging from their........actions I can't put anything past them now.

Had the ending had closure in the first place I feel the problem would have been less severe.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 19 mai 2012 - 12:33 .


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The Angry One wrote...

Worst case scenario:

Hackett: "We are gathered here today to honour Commander Shepard, who sacrificed everything, and by everything I mean the entire galaxy, to stop the Reapers, and by stop I mean continue their agenda by turning us all into Reapers."

*dead silence from the crowd*

Hackett: "I for one would like to give my thanks to Shepard. There was after all no way of defeating the Reapers, and now we may survive under the rule of our glorious masters!"

Harbinger: "THIS BORES ME."

*Harbinger disintegrates Hackett*

<<The end. Now buy our DLC!>>

^This.

Can someone explain to me why this is such good news? (It's an honest question)

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Dont Kaidan Me wrote...

Can someone explain to me why this is such good news? (It's an honest question)

Don't Kaidan Me!