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[Rolenka]

There appear to be some bugs with tactics, particularly class or attack type recognition.

But seriously. This thread is dumb.

Tactics are there so you don't have to pause as often. Not the other way around.

[Haexpane]

No one has EVER developed perfect AI for a videogame.



It's not possible w/ current technology

[Kourd]

Pong had pretty good AI.

[MrDynasty]

BewareTheDrow wrote...

Following the OP's challenge to create a tactic that would have companions attack mages first followed by archers, I did exactly that. It took 20 minutes to clear Ostagar to the Ogre on normal. (hint: Target using attack type: magic / Target using attack type: ranged) I never switched control off of my main character. (just for kicks)

I really didn't need to do this to prove that the tactics work fine, but I did it anyway to make sure I didn't miss something. I'm inclined to say the OP simply doesn't understand conditional logic or just didn't set the tactics up in the correct order. Oh well.

I guess technically I "broke" the challenge by starting from a save in Ostagar, but I really couldn't be bothered to go through the whole origin story just to check something so silly.

I actually tried what he said too... My guys never attacked the genlock emmissary first. Instead they attacked the archers.

He's right unfortunately that if mobs trigger in sub groups it messes up the tactics for your companions.

[magor1988x]

Yes because Elder Scrolls AI companions were geniuses... (Just on example of RPG companion AI's... I could go on)



The real reason?



So I can go and take a whiz mid battle if I need to.

[Faerell Gustani]

Jensonagain wrote...

Rodro Lliv wrote...

Jensonagain wrote...

No one in their right mind would ever make an RPG game that lets you pause combat. That defeats the purpose of the battle in the first place.

As a Baldur's Gate fanatic, I cannot read further.

Man these guys have been doing this since baldurs gate, but they still can't get your companion AI to be smart? It's 2009.  I mean kudos to them for making such a great game still but man..

Let me know when you've developed a complex AI that can run efficiently enough on today's hardware to maintain 4 instances of itself.

[1Parmenides]

I think, the "if then" tactics system for Bioware is the best thing we've seen yet. But as a general rule in ALL games, AI development is horribly lacking. I can't think of any game with awesome AI. 10 years of gaming has brought graphics to new greatness... sadly, AI hasn't improved much in a 10 year span.

[MrDynasty]

Like someone else said, guildwars has done a pretty darn good job. Much better than DA.

[Merwanor]

There are lot of games with companions in them, and i have never been satisfied with with the AI, thus is love the pausing in combat. And even with good AI i still want pausing.

DA is a rare game i think, the AI is more than good enough, at first i had no clue at how the tactics actually work. So one day i sat down and took my time to test and try the tactic system out. And now i don't pause the game as often as i did before. At least my tactics work perfectly to let party member prioritize certain enemy types.

It is sad to see that all these damn easy to use RPGs (Oblivion, Fable) has made gamers around the world rely lazy. It seems they all expect to be able to do anything of the go. And what is the point of having controllable party members in the game if there where an AI that could do anything.

Personally i think that would be very boring.So far this is the best RPG i have played, ever since Kotor. And i am not surprised it is a Bioware.

Btw: Guild wars was boooring! personal opinion of course.

Modifié par Merwanor, 11 décembre 2009 - 01:36 .

[Apocalizz]

It's also good for people like me, who get stressed and scream like a girl (well, because I am a girl, I guess. My boyfriend can do a great impressing of me playing a shooter....) "what do I do aah" when things go to fast (My eyesight isn't fantastic either, so sometimes it's hard to see what's what, and I lose oversight.)



It's great to pauze, take a breath, and see what's going on!

[Maconbar]

Creature 1 wrote...

Drayth wrote...

I was gonna reply in this thread, but then I paused and reconsidered.

I wish my life had pause.  My AI is just not sufficient to handle it in real-time.  

Rewind would also be nice.

[SleeplessInSigil]

I thought it was to aid you in ogling Morrigan.

[Trajan60]

The tactics are indeed flawed. There are times when the condition is met and the AI is still not doing what I want it to do.

[Wolfva2]

magor1988x wrote...

Yes because Elder Scrolls AI companions were geniuses... (Just on example of RPG companion AI's... I could go on)

The real reason?

So I can go and take a whiz mid battle if I need to.

Invest in a catheter and you'll never need to pause again!