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[Oldbones2]

Baelrahn wrote...

Could you guys... stop this? What the hell is the point of this thread?

I am not content with everything in Mass Effect but all of this has nothing to do with what's going on here. Even questioning how an employee (whatever his position) is doing with his family is none of your business.

The answer? He took a lot of harsh criticism (justified or not) so one might figure the spokesperson of the team will reappear once there is something to speak about. They know we didn't like the ending, they're working on something to change that (possible or not).

Look at us. It's not people being unsatisfied with the ending itself, but many of the ways to tell everybody about it, that make me ashamed to tell somebody "this is a gamer". And when it comes to picking on individual people (using swearwords or not), I'd say that's f*cking enough.
We've heard all the funny memes, we see through all the ever intelligent sarcasm that covers sheer bitterness. There is nothing to come up with regarding this subject that isn't just plain annoying anymore.

I am not gonna go with the "this is just a computer game, wake up nerds" because I damn well know, how great it is to let yourself get lost in an amazing universe like this. Knowing it is fictional, but still just letting yourself get gripped by and attached to those characters and forget everyday life for a (long) while. I tried to talk impressionable ME1 Garrus into using his talents for the right reasons, and didn't take ME3 Ash on a mission when she was hungover. I'm every bit as passionate about this series as I suppose most of you are.
This thing however, got way out of line. Way out of line.

Also: As a new member joining the forums, I'd loved to have the story discussions forums not flodded with a gazillion copies of the same thread.

As far as I know, Casey Hudson was in charge of ME3 and the team behind it.

That team delivered a faulty product to thousands and maybe millions of customers.

Many of those customers are now asking for answers.

He's not anwering.

And he doesn't have a 'right' to just run away and hide.  When you are in charge of something you need to take personal responsibility for it.  That includes a product.

Thats the problem with leaders now, they want the credit, but won't take the blame.

Casey Hudson should take lessons from better leaders than himself and learn the meaning of the phrase 'the buck stops here.'

[garrusfan1]

sorry but I gotta say it people are saying that mass effect 3 made money even though the ending sucked me3 made one hundred million dollars in the first week they did yes but how many people pre ordered the game the first day it was out it sold alot because peole like me had it preordered since last march

[Dutch105]

garrusfan1 wrote...

sorry but I gotta say it people are saying that mass effect 3 made money even though the ending sucked me3 made one hundred million dollars in the first week they did yes but how many people pre ordered the game the first day it was out it sold alot because peole like me had it preordered since last march

Bioware/EA still has your money.  So I very much think they don't really give a toss.

[eddieoctane]

Makrys wrote...

Go to his twitter. Just for funzies. He hasn't been heard from since March. lulz

He's probably hiding in a cave bomb shelter. Like he should... <_<

When he botches the EC, he's going to need something capable of handling a megaton blast.

[Dieb]

That's perfectly legitimate. I even agree with you. Again, I wasn't implying that's wrong, my intention was simply to kinda steer this discussion away from plain personal insults. I hate when people do that, no matter what the topic is.

But as I just got told, since I discovered the internet just yesterday when I accidentally flipped a rock, that's just voicing an opinion and in no way contraproductive or missing the point.

[T41rdEye]

The amount of vitriol and cynicism in these forums is embarrassing. Its nearly impossible to find a civil discussion/debate about the IT.

Basically most of what I see on these forums is this:

Anti-IT: BioWare SUX. Too stupid to create IT. EA.

Pro-IT/Undecided: Investigation. Speculation. Anticipation of EC. Optimism.

This is just from my personal experience from the little time I have to look at this "community." I think we all have one thing in common: The current ending, taken literally, blows.

I believe BW is doing something unprecedented: Making the "end" of a trilogy a cliffhanger open to speculation. Its unprecedented because this is in a video game, not a movie. The story isn't over. Whether it will be resolved through DLC or a sequel, I don't know.

EA motive? DLC. All the story-extending DLC will be used to discourage used-game sales. Online Pass wasn't just for MP.

This is all my own personal opinion.

[MinatheBrat]

MattFini wrote...

It's easy to hate on Hudson, and I can't defend some of the things he said about the game before it was release (empty promises, no doubt).

But Hudson runs MASS EFFECT. Beyond it being creatively fulfilling for him, it's also his livelihood. So when a staggering amount of your base community completely rejects the end of the trilogy, it's gotta sting. For both reasons.

I despise the ending. I think it's a pathetic failure from a narrative standpoint, and also from an artistic one (in that they tried to run alongside the Hollywood big dogs with something open and artsy and it just ... didn't work).

But I'm kinda excited (and cautious) for the extended cut. Casey has obviously heard the fans LOUD AND CLEAR in the past. Why assume he isn't listening now with respect to the EC?

^ Me too.

I am hopeful for the EC. I think they can do something awesome with it, and they say they are listening. I choose to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Some heads-up would be nice, but considering how turbulent the waters are, you can't really blame anyone for not wanting to stick their toes in it...I sure wouldn't.

[Acturas]

I keep seeing this thread and think your talking about "Hudson" from "Aliens"...This platform is insane

[Someone With Mass]

You reap what you sow...

[crimzontearz]

sorry Baelrhan, I was at work

that said

HELL NO. They purposedly lied knowingly and you know it. If not about the ending at the very least about the EMS which Bjorn (a dev) confirmed was coded to be just shy of 4000 with SP alone.Changing it to fulfill the promise requires nothing but a single keystroke but it is NOT being done....guess why my friend?
They lied and they did not even apologize, all we got was complete silence (aside for Holmes who confirmed the deceit to me personally) in regard of EMS and a big fat allusion that we are too immature/dumb to understand and accept the art of ending and that our reaction HURT THEM (that is actually priceless given the very suspicious addendum t o the code of conduct in the forum days prior to release) thus we will get an explanation about it but not a retcon.....because you know that would crush their artistic integrity (since their ethic is completely marred by lies). You think I want someone to yell at? I do not care, I just want to prevent this from repeating itself. If I never have to hear from them again while they are being "reassigned" then so be it...otherwise my mother always taught me that when you wrong someone and lie, apologizing is the right thing to do

[Funkdrspot]

Imo, the PR dept told him to shut up, so he did

[Atakuma]

Funkdrspot wrote...

Imo, the PR dept told him to shut up, so he did

A smart move. He's been built up as a evil villain that hates the fans and lies everytime he opens his mouth. Anything he says would do more harm than good.

[Xeranx]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

JedTed wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

He flew his private plane across the pacific to Papua New Guinea.. When he landed he coated his plane in fuel and burnt it.

He lives in isolation among the locals now, calling himself "Banner".

If he is seen, do not approach him, but more importantly do NOT, under any circumstances, discuss the ending!

It will make him mad..

Nice!  That made my day, all of the cynicism regaurding ME3's ending was starting to get depressing.

I know right! People are starting to turn into vultures.

Starting?

[erc1971]

MattFini wrote...
But I'm kinda excited (and cautious) for the extended cut. Casey has obviously heard the fans LOUD AND CLEAR in the past. Why assume he isn't listening now with respect to the EC?

We wanted the ending removed from the game and replaced with an entirely new ending, because it, you know, sucked.

What Casey said he was going to do was extend the crappy ending so we understood what was going on.  Not at all what we wanted.

Sounds to me like he isn't listening at all.

There are only 2 ways the EC will end up any good.  They peer review and receive enough flack over it  to remove the ending and replace it with something good.  Or, in trying to write the EC they find they CANNOT make it make sense (since it doesn't), then remove it and replace it with something good.

Eric

[Jadebaby]

Xeranx wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

JedTed wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

He flew his private plane across the pacific to Papua New Guinea.. When he landed he coated his plane in fuel and burnt it.

He lives in isolation among the locals now, calling himself "Banner".

If he is seen, do not approach him, but more importantly do NOT, under any circumstances, discuss the ending!

It will make him mad..

Nice!  That made my day, all of the cynicism regaurding ME3's ending was starting to get depressing.

I know right! People are starting to turn into vultures.

Starting?

lol is it wrong I try to see the best in BSN? Fighting an uphill battle I know. Most of the time I think people get agro because people are constantly trying to prove they're more intellectual than others.. It's quite sad, but also humerous.

[Mr Fancy Pants]

Flyprdu wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

He got eaten by aliens.
Oh wait, thought you meant:


That other guy? *shrug* Dunno.

Game over, man! GAME OVER! 

Maybe we can build a fire, sing a couple of songs, huh, how about we try that.  

Modifié par Mr Fancy Pants, 20 mai 2012 - 04:54 .

[Vasparian]

antony1197 wrote...

 I understand why he would have stayed away from the public for a month or so after release but its been a long time now. Has he made ANY comments since the ****storm started?

Who cares really. He's a pathetic liar.

[ZackG312]

Makrys wrote...

JPN17 wrote...

Doctor_Jackstraw wrote...

yeah i was about to say he's probably busy with his job and life and stuff. honestly i wouldnt even give two thoughts to internet stuff if i was in his shoes.

He didn't seem to have any problems before ME3 went gold propogating
lies about the game via twitter and other media, only after the game was
released and we found out about said lies did he disappear from the
internet entirely. I think it bothers him quite a bit, though he's got no one but himself to blame for that.

I really want to slap his face. Like at least 5 times.

lol

[chemiclord]

This thread is funny. People acting like immature, angry brats, then have the gall to tell others there's nothing wrong with threatening another person with violence, and demanding that person show themselves to be abused, mistreated, and ridiculed.

In the real world, we call these people douchebags, and they are not respected.

[Dont Kaidan Me]

Makrys wrote...
I really want to slap his face. Like at least 5 times.

I really want to look him straight in the eyes with my monocle and give him a fierce, "Good day sir! I said - good day!"

Modifié par Dont Kaidan Me, 20 mai 2012 - 05:21 .

[mumwaldee369]

incinerator950 wrote...

TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

antony1197 wrote...

Omega2079 wrote...

Thought I read he's taking time off work to spend it with his family.

If you can provide a link or some sembelilence of credit that would be VERY aprecciated.

Why do you care so much?

Apparently people around here need ME in their lives, so they need him to spend time away from his to fulfill theirs.  

Pretty funny coming from someone with all those game tags under his avatar.   How much time do you spend on these forums?

[mumwaldee369]

Mr Fancy Pants wrote...

Flyprdu wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

He got eaten by aliens.
Oh wait, thought you meant:


That other guy? *shrug* Dunno.

Game over, man! GAME OVER! 

Maybe we can build a fire, sing a couple of songs, huh, how about we try that.  

Why don't you put Hamburger Helper in charge?!

[flippedeclipse]

Oh come on people. Have a little basic respect. It's one thing to be upset about the endings and rant about it, but to say you want to physically hurt Casey Hudson? What is this, the Medieval era? Mass Effect is his labour of love; it wouldn't even exist without him, and he deserves far more than this crap for making two very memorable games with thousands of fans, which is more than most, if any of you can say. Let's not be primitives, mmkay?

[mumwaldee369]

Vasparian wrote...

antony1197 wrote...

 I understand why he would have stayed away from the public for a month or so after release but its been a long time now. Has he made ANY comments since the ****storm started?

Who cares really. He's a pathetic liar.

^^^^He lied about what the game was and sold out.  Hope he never forgets it.

[antony1197]

Funkdrspot wrote...

Imo, the PR dept told him to shut up, so he did

Cant blame him the guy is PR suicide, with all the pre release statements even AFTER the game went gold... well its obvious the community doesnt hold him in high regards right now...