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[AdrianC25]

I have the Saber X and I can tell you right now its my gun of choice on my SI, GI and HS and TS as well as my KV. Barrel and Scope AP ammo and its beastly on gold and just silly on silver. np to get 150k scores on gold.

Just my opinion.

[phoneixxineohp]

death_for_sale wrote...

Burning-Balls wrote...

I have the Saber III, and honestly I prefer the Carnifex and the Paladin by a very large margin.

Maybe I'm using it wrong, but I have tried the Saber on several different builds, and it does nothing better than what the Carnifex/Paladin can do.

I agree.

The gun is too heavy for the amount of damage it does. For me it's better to take a carnifex or paladin and have a sniper rifle or shotgun and not completely destroy my cool downs (even if I am playing a weapons based class). 

[Sailears]

Stardusk wrote...

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I like it most on my Justicar. I usually take damage barrel and AP, don't like the scope on it.

Wow, well if you manage it on the justicar, then more power to you.

I guess it depends on what sort of build - lots of pull/reaving needing fast cooldowns => saber would be a burden. But with your bulwark build I can see how the weight would be less of an issue.

AdrianC25 wrote...

I have the Saber X and I can tell you
right now its my gun of choice on my SI, GI and HS and TS as well as my
KV. Barrel and Scope AP ammo and its beastly on gold and just silly on
silver. np to get 150k scores on gold.

Just my opinion.

Saber X...

Damn, well if you can score that heavily with a scope, then I take back my harsh criticism of it. I still don't like using scopes (personal taste), but can't speak for everyone!

[john-in-france]

My GI, HFSoldier and AJA all like it. It is a pity that I don't have a level X.

[Rifneno]

The weight to DPS ratio of the saber is simply awful. Maybe it's good when you max it out, but mine (at level 3) is just insulting. Like most AR's its motto is "float like a hippopotamus, sting like a bee."

[ShadowWeaver2012]

Air Quotes wrote...

Curunen wrote...

It's amazing, but I don't use it on caster classes. Paladin/Carnifex/Talon are better there.

Prefer the AP and damage mods - what I like is that it doesn't have a scope.

On soldiers, infiltrators, and the other odd infrequent caster it is great. Any range, any target. Can be used up close as a shotgun (apart from the obvious downside of no multiple pellets to blast through shield gate), or as a sniper - I mean you don't really need a scope to snipe on most maps/situations.

BW is better for that job. Plus it has a built in scope and innate AP so you don't waste mods like you do on the saber. 

Agreed. Tried the Saber II on my Turian soldier last night and it was ok but not better than the BW II.

[Mozts]

The cool thing about saber is that the aim comes back to the same place it was before the recoil, just in time to fire another shot(just like BW). That means you can get one headshot after another.

I use it on soldier with AP mod and clip size. Reload times is not a big factor because of reload cancel and Adrenaline Rush magic-clip refill.

[Lima54]

I don't know, it's the only weapon (along with the Crusader and Collector Rifle, but they are promotional) that I don't have.

[megabeast37215]

death_for_sale wrote...

I don't like it and I am doing it right. Maybe it is because I have better options unlocked, but still, it is mediocre.

One major advantage that hasn't been talked about is how fast you can aquire new targets after the first one went down. 

DPS is not the most important factor in the world anyway.... how about you factor in all the 5-10 second trips to the ammo box that stupid Paladin makes you take. While you're getting ammo 2-3 times more than me, I'm still putting rounds down range... in their heads no less.

I still stick to my guns... you're not doing it right.

Think M14... not the one in the COD games... the one in real life.

[Creighton72]

OniGanon wrote...

My opinion is that the Saber is balanced and that the Carnifex and Paladin are stupidly overpowered. As it is, I find that the Saber is difficult to justify taking over the Paladin except on a Human Soldier.

I say double the damage of both the Paladin and the Carni. I 'll show those damn Banshees who's boss. Saber is just so heavy, what's that about?

[Creighton72]

death_for_sale wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

I don't like it and I am doing it right. Maybe it is because I have better options unlocked, but still, it is mediocre.

One major advantage that hasn't been talked about is how fast you can aquire new targets after the first one went down. 

DPS is not the most important factor in the world anyway.... how about you factor in all the 5-10 second trips to the ammo box that stupid Paladin makes you take. While you're getting ammo 2-3 times more than me, I'm still putting rounds down range... in their heads no less.

I still stick to my guns... you're not doing it right.

Think M14... not the one in the COD games... the one in real life.

You are certainly welcome to your opinion. I personally don't like it and would never use it over my other weapons, especially not my Paladin or Talon.

Hey I got ammo clips for the Carni and only run out of ammo on a rare occasion on gold during a level.. Clips weigh nothing, the Saber weighs a ton.

[megabeast37215]

By all means... if either of you are on Xbox... send me a friend request, and I'll prove my point. My gamertag is the same as my name on here.

Turian Sentinel + Saber IV + Disruptor Rounds and Chain Overload = Ultra Epic Win for Megabeast, Bring on your biotics with the Paladin/Carnifex... my bullets travel faster than your blue balls. I'll headshot every guy you warp.

Modifié par megabeast37215, 21 mai 2012 - 07:24 .

[DJepic112]

It's damage needs to be drastically upped. The firing speed is also too slow to justify the weight and low damage.

[RamsenC]

The Saber is more accurate the the Carnifex and the Paladin if you go scopeless for pierce and damage mods. If you do use a scope, then yea the pistols are better. I still rarely use it because of Graal/Claymore/Hurricane.

[megabeast37215]

Air Quotes wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

I don't like it and I am doing it right. Maybe it is because I have better options unlocked, but still, it is mediocre.

One major advantage that hasn't been talked about is how fast you can aquire new targets after the first one went down. 

DPS is not the most important factor in the world anyway.... how about you factor in all the 5-10 second trips to the ammo box that stupid Paladin makes you take. While you're getting ammo 2-3 times more than me, I'm still putting rounds down range... in their heads no less.

I still stick to my guns... you're not doing it right.

Think M14... not the one in the COD games... the one in real life.

I'll use my thermal clips. And use my powers frequently too. AND put rounds down range. While you only put rounds down range. 

And powers --> guns

That's a weak assumption that I'm using a class with no powers. I too have ammo clips... and my ammo clips are worth alot more rounds than yours. My Saber IV has 59 total rounds... twice that of the Paladin... therefore my thermal clips packs are significantly more valuable.

Modifié par megabeast37215, 21 mai 2012 - 07:33 .

[macarius5]

Air Quotes wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...


DPS is not the most important factor in the world anyway.... how about you factor in all the 5-10 second trips to the ammo box that stupid Paladin makes you take. While you're getting ammo 2-3 times more than me, I'm still putting rounds down range... in their heads no less.

I still stick to my guns... you're not doing it right.

Think M14... not the one in the COD games... the one in real life.

I'll use my thermal clips. And use my powers frequently too. AND put rounds down range. While you only put rounds down range. 

And powers --> guns

True, for my adept i use the palladin to finish off the target after reave.  Yes I do use thermal clips if an ammo box is not near, plus use the pistol magazie mod to up the number of shots from 3 to 5.   It is a matter of preference really.  For adepts, the weight of the saber comprimises the CD rate.  If saber really is a choice for class adepts, the justicar's rank 6 evolution of AR weight reduction will do.  Perhaps, if my saber is maxed out to X,  I will be very curious to check it out.  But if my palladin is maxed to X as well.  Will definitely choose the palladin 

[d_nought]

I like that the Saber has more ammo, and I can see why SOME (i.e. me) would use it over the Paladin. But Saber vs Carnifex is no competition. The only classes I use the Saber for now are the Human Soldier, because there it is actually more useful than the Paladin, and the AJA, becuase it isn't COMPLETELY crippled by the weight. Falcon or Paladin would obviously be better though.

Maybe the Saber X would be worth actually using for function and not for style points.

Modifié par chipsandwich, 21 mai 2012 - 07:52 .

[macarius5]

anyway to those who really love the saber, it is my weapon of choice for my turian sentinel can relate to the members who posted on this thread that its fire shots sounds good and the feel of the weapon is just right for my sentinel.

One thing i noticed - out of topic - is oftentimes I missed the quick reflexes of my adepts as compared to the batarian/krogan/turian race.

[Creighton72]

Air Quotes wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

I don't like it and I am doing it right. Maybe it is because I have better options unlocked, but still, it is mediocre.

One major advantage that hasn't been talked about is how fast you can aquire new targets after the first one went down. 

DPS is not the most important factor in the world anyway.... how about you factor in all the 5-10 second trips to the ammo box that stupid Paladin makes you take. While you're getting ammo 2-3 times more than me, I'm still putting rounds down range... in their heads no less.

I still stick to my guns... you're not doing it right.

Think M14... not the one in the COD games... the one in real life.

I'll use my thermal clips. And use my powers frequently too. AND put rounds down range. While you only put rounds down range. 

And powers --> guns

That's a weak assumption that I'm using a class with no powers. I too have ammo clips... and my ammo clips are worth alot more rounds than yours. My Saber IV has 59 total rounds... twice that of the Paladin... therefore my thermal clips packs are significantly more valuable.

NEVER in a Gold match I have needed to use more than 2 Thermal Clips for my Paladin III. And that's only on hacking missions. So ammo is plentiful. The recharge times are much better than with the Saber. And you dish out the same damage. 

Yeah me too, a couple of clips if I need them. 

As for this guys TS. I use single chain overload on mine and 100% shield drop increase. But with My Carni I can use overload twice as much as a guy with a Saber on TS. The Cari is as accurate as any gun in the game.

Think M-14? What? It fires a 7.62 even I wouldn't insult the Saber with that round. The Incisor is modeled after the Dragonov SVD and that fires a 7.62. The 47 fires a 7.62 big woop. Everyone knows the best Sniper round in the world is a .338 Lapua. The Widow is like a Tac 50, Black Widow is like a M200 firing the nasty 408 ROUND. But a Saber is like a hybrid round closer to a Lapua than a 7.62. And none of that Matters because a Paladin has just as much punch and accuracy You can put a scope on both or not. In the mean time I am getting more tech bursts and stun locks because of the lighter weight. Carni may be a little weaker but holds more rounds in the clip than the Paladin. More ammo means little when you are running around with extra clips, have a higher rate of fire with equal accuracy, a lot less kick, and can use your powers more often. I see guys with Sabers all the time, I have one and if it was better I would use it.

[Poison_Berrie]

death_for_sale wrote...

Extra ammo is a concern? Ok, Mattock (883 DPS) and Revenant (861 DPS).

The Mattock doesn't do one shot headshots. The Sabre is a headshot machine. 

macarius5 wrote...

agree, without a scope it cant seem to hit the target not like the carnifex/palladin.

What! The Sabre is very accurate a lot more than the Palladin/Carnifex. From cover it's can headshot someone across the map without a scope. 

Curunen wrote...
Saber X... 

Damn, well if you can score that heavily with a scope, then I take back my harsh criticism of it. I still don't like using scopes (personal taste), but can't speak for everyone!

The advantage of the scope is that you don't need to wait for reticle reset and it makes headshotting over distance somewhat easier. 

That said definitly not required.