A lot of people became really attached to Joker's character. He was the only tolerable human character, in my opinion. However, in his condition, the Shep & Joker shippers couldn't exactly be placated, and they did make Joker reject FemShep if she came on to him. I personally felt weird at first that he was basically banging a robot, but then again, it's sort of similar to the Geth, where they're so hyper-intelligent that they're just as much people as any other human or alien. So I was personally happy that Joker got his happy ending.
Why did Bioware force the EDI/Joker relationship on us and make it out to be so important?
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#27
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 12:53
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Meatus wrote...
A lot of people became really attached to Joker's character. He was the only tolerable human character, in my opinion. However, in his condition, the Shep & Joker shippers couldn't exactly be placated, and they did make Joker reject FemShep if she came on to him. I personally felt weird at first that he was basically banging a robot, but then again, it's sort of similar to the Geth, where they're so hyper-intelligent that they're just as much people as any other human or alien. So I was personally happy that Joker got his happy ending.
Shame he was the only charcter to even get an ending.
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 01:26
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It's not forced, but it is still ****ing stupid.
I don't want EDI with ******, I want the clever AI that is a smart-mouth and tries to make jokes, while directly inside the Normandy.
I liked the idea of EDI having a body at first, but the large metal breast, camel-toe outfit, and romance is stupid.
This romance stuff is just getting out of hand.
Been saying this since the leak - the joker / edi romance could have been really really fascinating and awesome had EDIs body been something that wasn't out of a robot sex fantasy.
If it had been a plain, non gendered metal skeleton, the romance would have been much better. By having it as this sexbot it just cheapened it.
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 01:27
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Icinix wrote...
Lookout1390 wrote...
It's not forced, but it is still ****ing stupid.
I don't want EDI with ******, I want the clever AI that is a smart-mouth and tries to make jokes, while directly inside the Normandy.
I liked the idea of EDI having a body at first, but the large metal breast, camel-toe outfit, and romance is stupid.
This romance stuff is just getting out of hand.
Been saying this since the leak - the joker / edi romance could have been really really fascinating and awesome had EDIs body been something that wasn't out of a robot sex fantasy.
If it had been a plain, non gendered metal skeleton, the romance would have been much better. By having it as this sexbot it just cheapened it.
Joker does "criticise" her body the first time he see's it.
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 01:44
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...Which is why Joker insists EDI stay on the bridge to "improve morale".Our_Last_Scene wrote...
Icinix wrote...
Lookout1390 wrote...
It's not forced, but it is still ****ing stupid.
I don't want EDI with ******, I want the clever AI that is a smart-mouth and tries to make jokes, while directly inside the Normandy.
I liked the idea of EDI having a body at first, but the large metal breast, camel-toe outfit, and romance is stupid.
This romance stuff is just getting out of hand.
Been saying this since the leak - the joker / edi romance could have been really really fascinating and awesome had EDIs body been something that wasn't out of a robot sex fantasy.
If it had been a plain, non gendered metal skeleton, the romance would have been much better. By having it as this sexbot it just cheapened it.
Joker does "criticise" her body the first time he see's it.
It was made for 15 year old boys who prefer gigantic metal boobs over story.
Oh, but to address OP. I agree that the Joker / EDI storyline did seem to overwhelm other relationships. Especially since many others were ignored. It would only make sense to someone who picked up ME at game 3.
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 01:51
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Was it just so we could get the Adam and Eve conntations from them at the end when they're stranded on the planet?
That, and to ensure that the whole "robots are always evil" crap the Catalyst spous will make no sense.
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 01:53
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Bioware needs to stop listening to nut jobs. First they take away Harbinger and now put EDI where someone else from ME 2 could have beenxsdob wrote...
Fans requested it, made countless fics and artwork about it, and brought it up in the threads a lot.
That's why.
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 01:53
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Dont Kaidan Me wrote...
...Which is why Joker insists EDI stay on the bridge to "improve morale".
She also "called him out on his bull****".
There's nothing wrong with EDI, there's a whole race of blue alien girls that can breed with anyone that people should start on first if they want to criticise the game as being made for 15 year old boys.
ZackG312 wrote...
Bioware needs to stop listening to nut
jobs. First they take away Harbinger and now put EDI where someone else
from ME 2 could have been
Wrong, Tali can die in ME2 and Legion is needed for the story, without them there's no one to replace EDI as tech specialist.
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 01:53
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Because they wanted to add lemon juice to the burn of experiencing the Catalyst
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 01:55
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Dont Kaidan Me wrote...
...Which is why Joker insists EDI stay on the bridge to "improve morale".
It was made for 15 year old boys who prefer gigantic metal boobs over story.
Oh, but to address OP. I agree that the Joker / EDI storyline did seem to overwhelm other relationships. Especially since many others were ignored. It would only make sense to someone who picked up ME at game 3.
At what point was story sacrificed for metal boobs? You mad at boobs?
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 01:56
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To show that man and machine can co-exist and form relationships, thus implying synthesis is the "best" ending...
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 01:56
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ONCE AGAIN destroying holo kids logicrowan93 wrote...
The balance of organics and synthetics is an important theme in the series, or so the ending suggests.
Joker and EDI represent how the two can co operate.
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 01:57
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they started kinda liking each other at the end of me2 but yeah the fact they got closure and noone else did pissed me off so bad
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 02:01
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garrusfan1 wrote...
they started kinda liking each other at the end of me2 but yeah the fact they got closure and noone else did pissed me off so bad
Glad I'm not alone in this. I was instantly pissed when they were holding hands while my Shep was forced into a no win situation
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 02:07
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They should have made Joker a female only LI and EDI a switch hitter like sweet, sweet Liara. Problem solved.
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 02:08
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If Joker wants to have a sexbot, let him have a sexbot. Bro earned that right. Plus...that voice!
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 02:14
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I hope I'm not mad at boobs. I have to live with them. I don't see why it was necessary to make her so physically... unbalanced, to the point my foremost thought is wondering how she's able to keep her balance. Didn't add to the story, it was just candy. To agree with the other poster, a "robot" that was less "sexy 20th century" and more "2186 hi tech blurring the lines between software, hardware and organic, AI", would've been more compelling.ticklefist wrote...
At what point was story sacrificed for metal boobs? You mad at boobs?Dont Kaidan Me wrote...
...Which is why Joker insists EDI stay on the bridge to "improve morale".
It was made for 15 year old boys who prefer gigantic metal boobs over story.
Oh, but to address OP. I agree that the Joker / EDI storyline did seem to overwhelm other relationships. Especially since many others were ignored. It would only make sense to someone who picked up ME at game 3.
My point was that lack of chracter development and follow-through plagued this game. Suddenly focusing on this new dynamic sacrficed moments where the characters who were already your close sqadmates from the past could be fleshed out with more detail.... rather than... "Oh, he died. Sucks. Seeya." So EDI could be lugging around the biggest boobs ever (which would serve no purpose to a robot, but I digress), and if the story is full (no pun intended) otherwise, it wouldn't seem so awkward.
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 02:15
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Our_Last_Scene wrote...
Icinix wrote...
Lookout1390 wrote...
It's not forced, but it is still ****ing stupid.
I don't want EDI with ******, I want the clever AI that is a smart-mouth and tries to make jokes, while directly inside the Normandy.
I liked the idea of EDI having a body at first, but the large metal breast, camel-toe outfit, and romance is stupid.
This romance stuff is just getting out of hand.
Been saying this since the leak - the joker / edi romance could have been really really fascinating and awesome had EDIs body been something that wasn't out of a robot sex fantasy.
If it had been a plain, non gendered metal skeleton, the romance would have been much better. By having it as this sexbot it just cheapened it.
Joker does "criticise" her body the first time he see's it.
....I wouldn't say that was...criticism by any stretch.
In regards to your post about your Asari - never really liked their concept either - but they were there from the very start of the game - EDI became what she became later to....well for no reason I can comprehend. Once again though I only have issue with the over-exageratted feminine proportions she has. I think the Joker / EDI romance would have been much deeper if EDI didn't have such a body - it would have really touched on the synthetic / organic romance much better.
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 02:16
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Dominus Solanum wrote...
They should have made Joker a female only LI and EDI a switch hitter like sweet, sweet Liara. Problem solved.
Ok.... So, it wrong that I read this in the voice of Cicero talking about the Night Mother?
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 02:18
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Icinix wrote...
....I wouldn't say that was...criticism by any stretch.
In regards to your post about your Asari - never really liked their concept either - but they were there from the very start of the game - EDI became what she became later to....well for no reason I can comprehend. Once again though I only have issue with the over-exageratted feminine proportions she has. I think the Joker / EDI romance would have been much deeper if EDI didn't have such a body - it would have really touched on the synthetic / organic romance much better.
EDI got a body to fill that Tech specialist posistion. The fact that she's sexulised really is irrelevant unless the people complaining about it also complain about the super sexualised Asari.
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 02:24
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Our_Last_Scene wrote...
Icinix wrote...
....I wouldn't say that was...criticism by any stretch.
In regards to your post about your Asari - never really liked their concept either - but they were there from the very start of the game - EDI became what she became later to....well for no reason I can comprehend. Once again though I only have issue with the over-exageratted feminine proportions she has. I think the Joker / EDI romance would have been much deeper if EDI didn't have such a body - it would have really touched on the synthetic / organic romance much better.
EDI got a body to fill that Tech specialist posistion. The fact that she's sexulised really is irrelevant unless the people complaining about it also complain about the super sexualised Asari.
Ah the Asari.
How could any POSSIBLY compalin about bi blue babes? They are EXACTLY what I envisioned for a race that has "perfect" e-democracy and are the most advanced race in the galaxy.
Thank goodness Bioware wasn't pandering. That might have gotten silly.
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 02:30
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Our_Last_Scene wrote...
Icinix wrote...
....I wouldn't say that was...criticism by any stretch.
In regards to your post about your Asari - never really liked their concept either - but they were there from the very start of the game - EDI became what she became later to....well for no reason I can comprehend. Once again though I only have issue with the over-exageratted feminine proportions she has. I think the Joker / EDI romance would have been much deeper if EDI didn't have such a body - it would have really touched on the synthetic / organic romance much better.
EDI got a body to fill that Tech specialist posistion. The fact that she's sexulised really is irrelevant unless the people complaining about it also complain about the super sexualised Asari.
I'm not overly fond of either. I found the ****** to be extremely offensive. Did they really need to go there?
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 02:31
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I had no problem with this. Joker asked me what do I think about it, I told him to keep professional and that's it )
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 02:33
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I think they mainly did for the laughs and to explore EDI's character. I don't have issues with it.
