Has anybody ever made their character looks old?
I'm not entirely sure why it gives us the option to, as the game treats you as a young adult. It just wouldn't make sense storywise to have an old character.
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 07:28
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My Amell is a 45-year old merry widow, so I tried to give her a more mature look; skin not quite so perfect, mostly. That's not old but definitely older than the Mage Origin seems to assume you are.
It makes perfect sense to me. If Wynne can be traipsing around the countryside at her age, not sure why an older Warden couldn't be as well.
It makes perfect sense to me. If Wynne can be traipsing around the countryside at her age, not sure why an older Warden couldn't be as well.
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 08:58
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I try to give none of my chars a "young" look actually, preferring a more seasoned and experienced appearance, but as it is the skin textures given by unmodded DAO for all races seem to give an appearance age selection of roughly 18, 20, 23, 60, 80, and 100... not enough 30-50yr old appearances, in other words. My first DAO char was a Tower elf mage with gray hair since he looked the most striking that way. But you're right that old chars don't work so well with the Origins' settings:
HN- you're the younger sibling with Fergus fairly young
DN- you're the middle sibling with Trian fairly young
CE- you're younger than your not-so-ancient father anyway
Tower Mage- It's assumed you were brought there at an early age and progressed quickly to your Harrowing
DC- you're the older (oldest) sibling, but no older than your mother Kalah (whose own complexion seems more related to her, erm, lifestyle) and not too much older than Rica
Dalish- you're not much older than Tamlen, and you've not yet been deemed old enough to be told about what happened to your parents, so...
Still, I like the option, so I'm glad it's there. DAO allows you to do more with the Character Creator than simply create characters you'll use in the game. As it is though, I started going gray IRL around age 20, and some people's skin starts "going" at an earlier age as well, so it's at least a little relative
HN- you're the younger sibling with Fergus fairly young
DN- you're the middle sibling with Trian fairly young
CE- you're younger than your not-so-ancient father anyway
Tower Mage- It's assumed you were brought there at an early age and progressed quickly to your Harrowing
DC- you're the older (oldest) sibling, but no older than your mother Kalah (whose own complexion seems more related to her, erm, lifestyle) and not too much older than Rica
Dalish- you're not much older than Tamlen, and you've not yet been deemed old enough to be told about what happened to your parents, so...
Still, I like the option, so I'm glad it's there. DAO allows you to do more with the Character Creator than simply create characters you'll use in the game. As it is though, I started going gray IRL around age 20, and some people's skin starts "going" at an earlier age as well, so it's at least a little relative
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Posté 23 mai 2012 - 01:51
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I think a DC can be forgiven for looking much older than he/she is, all things considered. I mean, Kalah's basically given up, and despite her assertions that her parenting style was helpful, it can't have been good for the DC emotionally. That, plus everything else around, the DC's starting career... he/she would be prematurely aged, if any of the Origins would be.
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Posté 26 mai 2012 - 10:00
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As far as "looking old" goes, life in the kind of conditions that existed in the DAO world may well have made people "look" older than a person of the same age in the modern Western world.
Even something like being unable to have a good long bath could cause one's health to go south rather quickly, and the lice that came to bite in the middle of the night might give one an old and weary look.
Even something like being unable to have a good long bath could cause one's health to go south rather quickly, and the lice that came to bite in the middle of the night might give one an old and weary look.
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Posté 27 mai 2012 - 01:31
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gandanlin wrote...
As far as "looking old" goes, life in the kind of conditions that existed in the DAO world may well have made people "look" older than a person of the same age in the modern Western world.
Even something like being unable to have a good long bath could cause one's health to go south rather quickly, and the lice that came to bite in the middle of the night might give one an old and weary look.
Hadn't thought of that, but yeah. Although somehow the Couslands seem to have dodged that bullet, so Human Noble would probably still look young. (Although really, Howe's hair is mostly brown, too. What was he jealous of, again?)
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 07:03
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Maybe just to elaborate a little:
In DAO there is not a real sense of the passage of time -- no rising of the sun to mark daybreak or setting of the sun to mark day’s end. Instead, it is night whenever you decide to go to party camp. That said, on any of the longer fights, such as the ones in the Deep Roads and in the Brecelian Woods, it seems reasonable to think that the hero and his/her team would be setting up an overnight camp every once in a while. At these camps they would not be stopping to bathe and wash their clothes and bedding. They would simply be resting themselves and perhaps tending to their weapons and armor in preparation for the next day of battle.
Trouble is, if they are covered in grime and gore from the previous day’s battle, any wound -- even a mere scratch -- is apt to fester and maybe even cause blood poisoning (septicemia) or gangrene. Wounds heal much better if they are washed and cleaned out. So those long battles might have the team starting to look old and sick really quick.
And there is also the question of biting insects. Fleas, ticks, mites, lice, bedbugs, and other biting pests can infest a traveller’s clothing and bedding. Such pests can probably suck a fair bit of blood out of a person, and/or cause secondary symptoms such as swollen, painful joints. That is the sort of stuff that makes a person look old real fast.
Maybe the nobles who sit around at leisure and who frequent the baths on a daily basis would be well-scrubbed and youthful in appearance. But your hero and his/her battle-weary companions may not look quite so fresh and healthy. Or young.
In DAO there is not a real sense of the passage of time -- no rising of the sun to mark daybreak or setting of the sun to mark day’s end. Instead, it is night whenever you decide to go to party camp. That said, on any of the longer fights, such as the ones in the Deep Roads and in the Brecelian Woods, it seems reasonable to think that the hero and his/her team would be setting up an overnight camp every once in a while. At these camps they would not be stopping to bathe and wash their clothes and bedding. They would simply be resting themselves and perhaps tending to their weapons and armor in preparation for the next day of battle.
Trouble is, if they are covered in grime and gore from the previous day’s battle, any wound -- even a mere scratch -- is apt to fester and maybe even cause blood poisoning (septicemia) or gangrene. Wounds heal much better if they are washed and cleaned out. So those long battles might have the team starting to look old and sick really quick.
And there is also the question of biting insects. Fleas, ticks, mites, lice, bedbugs, and other biting pests can infest a traveller’s clothing and bedding. Such pests can probably suck a fair bit of blood out of a person, and/or cause secondary symptoms such as swollen, painful joints. That is the sort of stuff that makes a person look old real fast.
Maybe the nobles who sit around at leisure and who frequent the baths on a daily basis would be well-scrubbed and youthful in appearance. But your hero and his/her battle-weary companions may not look quite so fresh and healthy. Or young.
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Posté 28 mai 2012 - 08:15
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gandanlin wrote...
Maybe the nobles who sit around at leisure and who frequent the baths on a daily basis would be well-scrubbed and youthful in appearance. But your hero and his/her battle-weary companions may not look quite so fresh and healthy. Or young.
Point taken, but on the other hand, that doesn't seem to stop Morrigan, Leiliana, Alistair, etc. from staying youthful. Nor do you get to redesign your PCs as the game goes on to show this.
Though since the Dwarf Commoner and City Elf are from environments where they get to deal with a lot of the same things, it's a miracle that some of the people around them look as young as they do, (Soris, Shianni, Rica) and, like you said it might make sense that the hero looks older than one would think. Still, I try to make them look young anyway, just because that seems to be the way Thedas works. (The teeth as packaged are realistic, but I found a mod for that because the romance scenes are more fun that way.)
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Posté 29 mai 2012 - 01:39
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I hit the quote button instead of edit. Sorry about that.
Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 29 mai 2012 - 01:40 .
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Posté 29 mai 2012 - 09:14
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It might be interesting to play an RPG that was as realistic as possible. But perhaps a big part of the appeal of DAO is that it is a fantasy. Who would want to play the role of a person with rotting teeth, a rheumy bloodshot eye, and a skin condition caused by an infestation of burrowing insects?
Modifié par gandanlin, 30 mai 2012 - 09:12 .
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Posté 29 mai 2012 - 09:38
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gandanlin wrote...
It might be interesting to play an RPG that was as realistic as possible. But perhaps a big part of the appeal of DAO is that it is a fantasy. Who would want to play the role of a person with rotting teeth, a rheumy bloodshot eye, and a skin condition caused by an infestation with burrowing insects?
A number of people seem to be okay with the "rotting teeth" thing. As I previously mentioned, not me.
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Posté 30 mai 2012 - 12:23
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Just because a full immersion bath isn't possible doesn't mean you can't get clean with a pot of hot water and a rag.
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Posté 30 mai 2012 - 09:24
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No doubt there are some things that could be done during travel.
Sitting beside the fire and allowing the smoke to permeate one's clothes and bedding might do wonders to discourage the insects from taking up long-term residency. A sharp twig might work as a toothpick. A pot of warm water could be used to flush out a dirty wound.
But there are dangers that are much more difficult to deal with. The bite of some insects can inject certain viruses or bacteria into the bloodstream. A bone crushed by a blow during battle is an injury quite susceptible to gangrene. Trench foot is not uncommon during long battles in damp conditions. There is probably a long list of such things.
Maybe Morrigan or Wynne might have some handy magic to treat such things. But I still am inclined to think that long battles gave most warriors a weathered and worn appearance.
Sitting beside the fire and allowing the smoke to permeate one's clothes and bedding might do wonders to discourage the insects from taking up long-term residency. A sharp twig might work as a toothpick. A pot of warm water could be used to flush out a dirty wound.
But there are dangers that are much more difficult to deal with. The bite of some insects can inject certain viruses or bacteria into the bloodstream. A bone crushed by a blow during battle is an injury quite susceptible to gangrene. Trench foot is not uncommon during long battles in damp conditions. There is probably a long list of such things.
Maybe Morrigan or Wynne might have some handy magic to treat such things. But I still am inclined to think that long battles gave most warriors a weathered and worn appearance.
Modifié par gandanlin, 30 mai 2012 - 09:39 .
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Posté 09 juin 2012 - 04:23
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My avatar is an attempt at making an older looking PC. How old a person looks is not always a matter of lifestyle and enviroment, genetics can play a role in it as well. Look at men who are going bald in thier 20s, or women that already have grey hair by 30. So you can have person who looks middle aged while actually only being mid-20s.
Modifié par von Graudenz, 09 juin 2012 - 01:48 .
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Posté 09 juin 2012 - 07:01
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i have white hairs here and there...everywhere...huwwaaaa......i am 32, i am not OLD....
it is curious why there is an option to make old character while the character is always young in origin? It is like put an option to make black character while the parents are white....
it is curious why there is an option to make old character while the character is always young in origin? It is like put an option to make black character while the parents are white....
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Posté 09 juin 2012 - 03:55
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I wouldn't actually mind playing a character that doesn't look young and isn't treated as young by the story. I'm 30 myself, and while I'm not old, I hate starting out most all RPGs being called "kid" or something like that.
When I get the chance, I make old characters. All my New Vegas characters are old or middle-aged (you can't make them look truly old). Love playing a character that isn't so wet behind the ears.
When I get the chance, I make old characters. All my New Vegas characters are old or middle-aged (you can't make them look truly old). Love playing a character that isn't so wet behind the ears.
