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[Ridwan]

You afraid you'll be labeled as immature? That you like Disney endings?

Come on, don't give me that crap with "I only like dark and depressing endings" you and I both know, we wanted Shepard to chug a beer with his team and celebrate their victory over a dead reaper corpse.

[Taboo]

You assume I'm to scared to say anything.

I say whatever is one my mind.

To hell with the consequences.

[Talogrungi]

I would have prefered to have the possibility of a happy ending, but that's not even comparable to my desire for all the endings to make chuffing sense.

[The Night Mammoth]

I'm not. Ice-cream is delicious, rainbows are ace, and sparkles warm the heart.

Seriously, the whole gang should have a beach party to celebrate.

[RavenEyry]

It's not that we don't want a happy ending, it's that we're willing to accept a bittersweet or worse ending, as long as it makes sense and fits the lore.

[Deuterium_Dawn]

Talogrungi wrote...

I would have prefered to have the possibility of a happy ending, but that's not even comparable to my desire for all the endings to make chuffing sense.

[RavenEyry]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Seriously, the whole gang should have a beach party to celebrate.

It's from 2 but I hope it helps:

[Samtheman63]

I got a happy ending

[Goaliebot]

I *wanted* a happy ending, yes. But I was prepared to accept a noble sacrifice, or bittersweet ending too.

Mostly I feel like there should have been choices. That if you did everything "just so" you could get the endings you were after:

Phone it in: bad endings with most people dead, universe in disarray, etc.
Do half of everything: Dead Shep, most people survive, Universe damaged but limps along.
Do almost everything, in manner A: Noble Shep dies saving everyone and everything he loves.
Do almost everything, in manner A: Shep lives, saves almost everyone and everything he loves.
Alternate dark ending: Shep goes evil, becomes dark overlord!

That's 5 endings there, not even 16. Only one is "happy" in the sense of Shep living, and you have to do things a certain way to get that (maybe even sacrifice some other things/races?).

Instead we got crummy A, crummy B, crummy C where they were all pretty much identical, bad, destroyed the universe, and left everything unfinished and unresolved.

[The Night Mammoth]

RavenEyry wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Seriously, the whole gang should have a beach party to celebrate.

It's from 2 but I hope it helps:

Epic. 

[DC111]

I don't give a flying Pyjak's butt about a happy ending.... I just want a sensible one.

[The Night Mammoth]

Samtheman63 wrote...

I got a happy ending

Good for you. 

I'd have liked one as well. 

[Nexcus]

Talogrungi wrote...

I would have prefered to have the possibility of a happy ending, but that's not even comparable to my desire for all the endings to make chuffing sense.

Honestly, i dont give a flaming flamingos buttocks if the ending was happy or sad as long as in the end everything was answered and everything MADE DAMN SENSE.

Doesnt mean i wouldnt mind some fun in the sun by the survivers in the Normandy

[Scimal]

Because some of us don't.

Given the circumstances presented in the game, it would only further diminish the threat of the Reapers - the once incredibly intimidating ambiguous destructive force - if Shepard ended up bumpin' brewskies with Garrus. It seems unrealistic.

Shepard needs to experience pain and loss in the climax for the build-up of the Reapers to work. Shepard needs to have a very significant shot at not making it through, and squadmates should be at risk of the same.

While a 'cake and eat it, too' ending isn't something I'm 100% opposed to, without difficulty to overcome there was no journey taken. The biggest threat would have been the Collectors in the grand scheme of things, not the Reapers - and that doesn't make any sense.

So no, we're not scared. We want Shepard's victory to represent the journey and risks taken. If the player does things a certain way and that ends up in Shepard teaching their kid how to play ball - great. If it ends up that Shepard has to blow up the Citadel with them on it, just as great.

[JayPlays]

I would have liked a happy ending.

[Iakus]

M25105 wrote...

You afraid you'll be labeled as immature? That you like Disney endings?

Come on, don't give me that crap with "I only like dark and depressing endings" you and I both know, we wanted Shepard to chug a beer with his team and celebrate their victory over a dead reaper corpse.

I do want to have my Shepard end the game alive and happy.  If EC delivers nothing else, I want to see that.  the game was dark enough that no ending will be completely "Disney"

I wanted a range of endings, from happy to sad.  We got the sad stuff already.  What's missig is the option to have anything else.

[Hudathan]

A happy ending in the traditional Disney sense was simply out of the question the moment the game began with the invasion of Earth. It was war on the greatest scale those civilizations have seen up to that point and billions have died by the end of the game. Every single character in the story has lost family and loved ones. There was not going to be a happy ending because a happy ending was no longer possible by the end. What every character was fighting for was survival and defiance in the face of defeat.

Nobody is saying that a happy ending is a good/bad thing. The ending to a story simply must fit the tone of the story. ME3 made us feel something we otherwise would never have: to struggle against overwhelming odds while having the uncertainty of galactic survival on the back of our minds every step of the way. To have an ending which didn't fit that tone would be inappropriate.

Modifié par Hudathan, 20 mai 2012 - 04:12 .

[Merilsell]

RavenEyry wrote...

It's not that we don't want a happy ending, it's that we're willing to accept a bittersweet or worse ending, as long as it makes sense and fits the lore.

Word.

Being bleak just for the hell of it isn't artistic or a justified/meaningful ending to a story, it is bad writing. Give people the possibility to get a sense of accomplishment/closure in the end of a story, after all the crap they have been pulled through.

That is writing rule 101, seriously.

...Or if you are fixed to let it end in a "Rock fall, everyone dies" way, make sure it makes at least SENSE. Ugh. <_<

Edit: And for the record: I would have loved a happy ending, or at least the possibility thereof. Hell, I would have loved to sit on a beach afterward, sipping drinks while rubbles are all around me and big ass reaper parts are sticking out of the water. Because after all the crap my Shep has been through, she simply deserves more than ...red, blue, green. Seriously.

Modifié par Merilsell, 20 mai 2012 - 04:15 .

[Ridwan]

Shepard did experience loss. Anderson, Thane, Legion and Mordin died (in my playthrough). Good buddies dead. Oh and that stupid kid, got wasted too, and for some reason messed him up with weird dreams (No I don't care about IT).

There's nothing unrealistic in a video game about a hero overcoming impossible odds and get a happy ending in the end. Cause hell it's fiction.

Edit: Forgot to mention Legion.

Modifié par M25105, 20 mai 2012 - 04:15 .

[NUM13ER]

I have nothing against a happy ending as a possibility. Just as I have nothing against Reaper victory should you absolutely squander every opportunity to succeed. However my only concern lay with having a conclusion that offered closure and took my decisions into account. Bittersweet or otherwise, if the ending fulfilled that expectation it had me sold. To say that the current ending did not offer me anything in the way of my expectations would be a grave understatement.

In short no, I'm not afraid to say I just wanted a happy ending because in all honesty I just wanted an enjoyable ending.

Modifié par NUM13ER, 20 mai 2012 - 04:11 .

[Iakus]

M25105 wrote...

Shepard did experience loss. Anderson, Thane and Mordin died (in my playthrough). Good buddies dead. Oh and that stupid kid, got wasted too, and for some reason messed him up with weird dreams (No I don't care about IT).

There's nothing unrealistic in a video game about a hero overcoming impossible odds and get a happy ending in the end. Cause hell it's fiction.

Not to mention the entire trilogy up until this point has been Shepard overcoming the impossible.

Including death.

[Ridwan]

Hudathan wrote...

A happy ending in the traditional Disney sense was simply out of the question the moment the game began with the invasion of Earth. It was was on the greatest scale those civilizations have seen up to that point and billions have died by the end of the game. Every single character in the story has lost family and loved ones. There was not going to be a happy ending because a happy ending was no longer possible by the end. What every character was fighting for was survival and defiance in the face of defeat.

Nope it wasn't. Reapers die, some speech about how everyone sacrificed and the monstrous loss, but that the Organics and Synthetics, showed the Reapers who's boss. Then we start rebuilding after having a big party to honour those that died and those that lived.

So yeah, a Disney ending, does make sense.

Modifié par M25105, 20 mai 2012 - 04:13 .

[The Night Mammoth]

Hudathan wrote...

A happy ending in the traditional Disney sense was simply out of the question the moment the game began with the invasion of Earth. It was was on the greatest scale those civilizations have seen up to that point and billions have died by the end of the game. Every single character in the story has lost family and loved ones. There was not going to be a happy ending because a happy ending was no longer possible by the end. What every character was fighting for was survival and defiance in the face of defeat.

Depends on how you define what your happy ending would be. 

Basic survival, with the opportunity for Shepard to meet her LI again would enough. 

[christrek1982]

M25105 wrote...

You afraid you'll be labeled as immature? That you like Disney endings?

Come on, don't give me that crap with "I only like dark and depressing endings" you and I both know, we wanted Shepard to chug a beer with his team and celebrate their victory over a dead reaper corpse.

I agree that a stigma has grown around this subject but I'll say it I want a happy ending I want a reward for following Mass effect over 3 games and 5 years I wanna see or read that shep live with LI maybe helps re build Eden prime or something I wanna see the galaxy recover I want it to end on a high note and there to be some hope and a sense of achievement.

Modifié par christrek1982, 20 mai 2012 - 04:14 .

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

M25105 wrote...

Shepard did experience loss. Anderson, Thane and Mordin died (in my playthrough). Good buddies dead.

You're forgetting Legion...