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[Ridwan]

Mr. Big Pimpin wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Shepard did experience loss. Anderson, Thane and Mordin died (in my playthrough). Good buddies dead.

You're forgetting Legion...

Damn. I forgot my robot buddy. I'm sorry Legion

[Doofe2012]

Because not many people actually want a happy ending. I wanted bittersweet in that everything in the current Destroy ending happens, but Shepard, EDI, and the geth live, and Shepard is able to reunite with his/her friends + LI.

[GuardianAngel470]

Mainly because that was the chief straw man used by the press when this whole thing started. Assumption: They just wanted a happy ending; counterargument: they're demanding a new ending because they wanted something happier, boo freaking hoo.

[Zoedoll]

Considering everything that had happened, even "and then we all went to the beach" would be bittersweet. THESSIA, MAN. Thessia. Palaven. Earth. It would be more like "and then we all went to the beach and watched all the cities still burning on the horizon."

That said I'm not against deaths of squadmates, just against the death of absolutely everyone without any element of choice.

[garrusfan1]

I wanted to be able to get a happy ending but you had to work for it (without multiplayer) I have said that for a while I wanted shepard to have an ending with garrus catching some sun on the beach and you know something similar for every LI but I never understood why so many people wanted a depressing ending yes its about a war but shepard already died once for the greater good by saving joker in me2 but I personally hate depressing endings I don`t play video games to get depressed I play video games to kind of escape the real world call me childish but there should have been a possibility agree 100% with you

[DJBare]

There can never be a true happy ending, millions if not billions have already died, so yeah, lets sit on a beach with all the bodies piled up around us.

A bitter sweet ending is the only way, example, Tali relieved to see Shepard alive runs and wraps her arms around him, then they stand and look at the results of the battle, there is no happy ending, there is a bitter sweet ending.

[SP2219]

 We wanted to see Shepard try and fulfill his goal.  That was all we wanted.  Happy or sad it doesn't matter.  We just wanted to see him try.  Instead, we were forced to watch him give in to the trilogy's villain, the Catalyst, the force behind the Reapers, and render his entire struggle over three games utterly pointless.

[Goaliebot]

Something spoken in the game(s): "you can't save them all".

I'd have liked the endings to be more about that. Who do you save? Who don't you save? Who gets sacrificed, who sacrifices themselves?

In order to save EVERYONE, Shep has to sacrifice himself. For Shep to live, others have to die.

Those are the complex stories I wanted. And no, A/B/C with the nonsense "synthetics die for no real reason" and/or "you die (or not?) for no real reason" stuff did NOT do that.

[garrusfan1]

Zoedoll wrote...

Considering everything that had happened, even "and then we all went to the beach" would be bittersweet. THESSIA, MAN. Thessia. Palaven. Earth. It would be more like "and then we all went to the beach and watched all the cities still burning on the horizon."

That said I'm not against deaths of squadmates, just against the death of absolutely everyone without any element of choice.

yeah but what are you fighting for if you won`t have any happiness in the universe and just misery yes those should be adressed but have a little cheer in it too

[garrusfan1]

Goaliebot wrote...

Something spoken in the game(s): "you can't save them all".

I'd have liked the endings to be more about that. Who do you save? Who don't you save? Who gets sacrificed, who sacrifices themselves?

In order to save EVERYONE, Shep has to sacrifice himself. For Shep to live, others have to die.

Those are the complex stories I wanted. And no, A/B/C with the nonsense "synthetics die for no real reason" and/or "you die (or not?) for no real reason" stuff did NOT do that.

WHY DOES SHEP HAVE TO DIE honestly he died in me2 saving joker why can`t it be for people like me who try to do everything so they could get a good ending get that honestly when it comes to mas effect games I did every loyalty mission helped every squad member in me1 and me2 like even small stuff like helping garrus find dr saleon in me1 and helping wrex get his familys armor back so why can`t I get a happy ending not made at any of you guys who didn`t want it to each is own but I hate it when people say we shouldn`t be able to get a happy ending no matter what

[Vox Draco]

iakus wrote...

I do want to have my Shepard end the game alive and happy.  If EC delivers nothing else, I want to see that.  the game was dark enough that no ending will be completely "Disney"

I wanted a range of endings, from happy to sad.  We got the sad stuff already.  What's missig is the option to have anything else.

Exactly. That was the main thing I was looking forward to after playing through all three games...and I never even expected Shepard to die...and I also don't get why so many people are obsessed to see Shepard throw away her life...I mean sacrifice it, whatever...dead is dead...

Shepard saw Eden Prime fall to the Geth and a lot of people died fighting Sovereign, and she had to sacrifice a valuable team mate on Virmire, all in part one.

Then she died. She died!!!! Rmeber how Shepard floats in space, struggling to breathe? Can you imagine what a horrible experience this must have been? Then she returned and became an outcast and had to witness how the collectors abducted thousands of people to liquify them!

And in ME3 its all war, death and horror! But this is Shepard! Through all three parts she fought, toiled, endured the worst to keep the galaxy save and rescue it from destruction. So Shepard DESERVES the CHANCE to make it, to get some kind of reward in the end. And for me, a heroic sacrifice is NO reward. Death is NEVER a reward.

sorry if that sounds a little aggressive, but I am really tired of defending my wish for an OPTIONAL happy ending. A real one, not a simple breathe-scene. And just again for the record: That means Shepard alive with her loved ones in a galaxy that has suffered a bodycount of billions! With every major planet in ruins! With endless seas of tears and sorrow. Guess this is enough to qualify as bittersweet...

Phu...now I feel better!

[christrek1982]

Doofe2012 wrote...

Because not many people actually want a happy ending. I wanted bittersweet in that everything in the current Destroy ending happens, but Shepard, EDI, and the geth live, and Shepard is able to reunite with his/her friends + LI.

I could live with that.

[Gilthanis]

I never wanted a happy ending.  I wanted the option for a happy ending.

[garrusfan1]

M25105 wrote...

Shepard did experience loss. Anderson, Thane, Legion and Mordin died (in my playthrough). Good buddies dead. Oh and that stupid kid, got wasted too, and for some reason messed him up with weird dreams (No I don't care about IT).

There's nothing unrealistic in a video game about a hero overcoming impossible odds and get a happy ending in the end. Cause hell it's fiction.

Edit: Forgot to mention Legion.

I agree with IT but yeah my playthrough I lost thane mordin and legion which I thought that shepard needed to lose something but still should have an ending that doesn`t make you depressed  shepard should experience loss and he did and bioware did those well but they should have had a possibility to get a good ending at least thats my opinion 

[Hudathan]

M25105 wrote...

Hudathan wrote...

A happy ending in the traditional Disney sense was simply out of the question the moment the game began with the invasion of Earth. It was was on the greatest scale those civilizations have seen up to that point and billions have died by the end of the game. Every single character in the story has lost family and loved ones. There was not going to be a happy ending because a happy ending was no longer possible by the end. What every character was fighting for was survival and defiance in the face of defeat.

Nope it wasn't. Reapers die, some speech about how everyone sacrificed and the monstrous loss, but that the Organics and Synthetics, showed the Reapers who's boss. Then we start rebuilding after having a big party to honour those that died and those that lived.

So yeah, a Disney ending, does make sense.

Seen a lot of Disney movies with genocide? A happy ending is a relative thing, and Disney certainly doesn't apply here. Not only is ME3 a war story, it's a particularly atrocious one. Even if Bioware could somehow trick individual players into being happy by giving Shepard some huge get out of jail cards, it would still break the immersion of the story that was so effective until that point.

[Ridwan]

Hudathan wrote...

M25105 wrote...

Hudathan wrote...

A happy ending in the traditional Disney sense was simply out of the question the moment the game began with the invasion of Earth. It was was on the greatest scale those civilizations have seen up to that point and billions have died by the end of the game. Every single character in the story has lost family and loved ones. There was not going to be a happy ending because a happy ending was no longer possible by the end. What every character was fighting for was survival and defiance in the face of defeat.

Nope it wasn't. Reapers die, some speech about how everyone sacrificed and the monstrous loss, but that the Organics and Synthetics, showed the Reapers who's boss. Then we start rebuilding after having a big party to honour those that died and those that lived.

So yeah, a Disney ending, does make sense.

Seen a lot of Disney movies with genocide? A happy ending is a relative thing, and Disney certainly doesn't apply here. Not only is ME3 a war story, it's a particularly atrocious one. Even if Bioware could somehow trick individual players into being happy by giving Shepard some huge get out of jail cards, it would still break the immersion of the story that was so effective until that point.

So you're telling me, that it's unrealistic to feel happy that the Reapers are dead?

[christrek1982]

Goaliebot wrote...

Something spoken in the game(s): "you can't save them all".

I'd have liked the endings to be more about that. Who do you save? Who don't you save? Who gets sacrificed, who sacrifices themselves?

In order to save EVERYONE, Shep has to sacrifice himself. For Shep to live, others have to die.

Those are the complex stories I wanted. And no, A/B/C with the nonsense "synthetics die for no real reason" and/or "you die (or not?) for no real reason" stuff did NOT do that.

you know I want a happy ending with shep alive but I could realy enjoy this sort of an ending could I kill my shep for another could I realy live at the cost of others? I think they tried to present distroy like that with the geth dead and so on but failed.

[xI extremist Ix]

What isn't happy about this ending?

[WandererRTF]

It's not that we don't want a happy ending, it's that we're willing to accept a bittersweet or worse ending, as long as it makes sense and fits the lore.

QTF

I just wanted an ending which would make sense - with regards to the Mass Effect universe and to the rich background it has. It does not really matter to me if Shepard dies or not, after all the way I figured that is the 'accepted risk' of being in military service. It does not even matter to me if the crew gets pasted or not.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

Goaliebot wrote...

Something spoken in the game(s): "you can't save them all".

I'd have liked the endings to be more about that. Who do you save? Who don't you save? Who gets sacrificed, who sacrifices themselves?

In order to save EVERYONE, Shep has to sacrifice himself. For Shep to live, others have to die.

Those are the complex stories I wanted. And no, A/B/C with the nonsense "synthetics die for no real reason" and/or "you die (or not?) for no real reason" stuff did NOT do that.

Yes. You, sir, win a gold star.

[The Night Mammoth]

Hudathan wrote...

Seen a lot of Disney movies with genocide? A happy ending is a relative thing, and Disney certainly doesn't apply here. Not only is ME3 a war story, it's a particularly atrocious one. Even if Bioware could somehow trick individual players into being happy by giving Shepard some huge get out of jail cards, it would still break the immersion of the story that was so effective until that point.

I wasn't particularly immersed at the end.

Here's a 'jet of jail card' - the Crucible. 

Fire it, weaken the Reapers, survival of friends and allies determined by EMS. Epilogues play.

[Deemz]

I don't personally understand why somebody would not want a happy ending. I generally use my entertainment time for things that lift my spirits. You don't have to look any further than the evening news if you want to be depressed.

Not that I have a problem with people that want a dark and depressing ending. I just don't understand it.

[covertdrizzt]

I wanted a happy ending, a ending where shepard is an evil overlord, one where shepard dies but is victorious, one where you messed up too much and the reapers win.

[slimshedim]

M25105 wrote...

You afraid you'll be labeled as immature? That you like Disney endings?

Come on, don't give me that crap with "I only like dark and depressing endings" you and I both know, we wanted Shepard to chug a beer with his team and celebrate their victory over a dead reaper corpse.

Yeah, but we got some red/blue/green artistic BS instead. Even if I preferred a different ending, who am I to argue with ARTISTS?

[Faded_Jeans]

I wanted lots of endings, based on my choices. Let me be the tragic hero who sacrifices their life for the good of the galaxy. Let the reapers win and dance on my grave. Let me cry over the noble sacrifices of my squadmates, or revel in how close we came to losing it all. Let me kick ass, take names, and live happily ever after, even if I have to multi-player to 100% and buy DLC to make it happen.

But I didn't get any of that.

Instead, I feel like I wasted half a decade of my loyalty for an ending that looks like it was written by the team at Mad Libs.

I'm doing a second play-through now, and I weep over how great the story actually is, and dread coming to the ending, where my emotional re-investment will blow up in my face all over again.

I feel like I've been trolled by my favorite game.

Modifié par Faded_Jeans, 20 mai 2012 - 04:40 .