I wanted a happy ending. But it's not a necessity. I love tragedy's too, if Shepard and his entire crew/squad were killed but succeeded in killing the reapers I would still think it's a good ending.
Why are so many of you here scared to say that you wanted a happy ending?
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#52
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 04:44
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If happy was a possibility. Like in ME2, you could have all the crew survive then slow walk the Normandy receiving nods of approval. Happy/Flawless Victory
Some of the crew could die and their coffins would be on the ship. Bittersweet/ Not so flawless victory
Or YOU could die. And Joker is left on the Normandy. Awful/ crap victory you died
Something like this.
Some of the crew could die and their coffins would be on the ship. Bittersweet/ Not so flawless victory
Or YOU could die. And Joker is left on the Normandy. Awful/ crap victory you died
Something like this.
#53
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 04:47
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I'm not afraid to say it: I wanted a happy ending. But I thought it would just be one possible result depending on choices and how much was accomplished through out the game.
#54
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 04:55
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Faded_Jeans wrote...
I wanted lots of endings, based on my choices. Let me be the tragic hero who sacrifices their life for the good of the galaxy. Let the reapers win and dance on my grave. Let me cry over the noble sacrifices of my squadmates, or revel in how close we came to losing it all. Let me kick ass, take names, and live happily ever after, even if I have to multi-player to 100% and buy DLC to make it happen.
But I didn't get any of that.
Instead, I feel like I wasted half a decade of my loyalty for an ending that looks like it was written by the team at Mad Libs.
I'm doing a second play-through now, and I weep over how great the story actually is, and dread coming to the ending, where my emotional re-investment will blow up in my face all over again.
I feel like I've been trolled by my favorite game.
I know how you feel I'm replying from ME1 at the moment but I plan on stopping just after the last chat with TIM and Anderson as that is the last good bit in the game and just make it up from there I hope the EC comes out before I get to the end of ME3 and I hope it makes it better but I don't think I will get anywhere close to what I'm hoping for.
#55
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 04:55
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I just wanted a happy ending to be an option, one of many options based on choices made throughout the game, or during the end game.
As Shepard says in the game, saving everyone only happens in vids, people will die.
I didn't take the easy way out in DA:O and do the Dark Ritual every game, I sacrificed my Warden, Alistar etc. Doesn't always have to teddy bears, flowers and birds singing.
As Shepard says in the game, saving everyone only happens in vids, people will die.
I didn't take the easy way out in DA:O and do the Dark Ritual every game, I sacrificed my Warden, Alistar etc. Doesn't always have to teddy bears, flowers and birds singing.
#56
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 04:56
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After so much deaths and losses in the game. I want an option to have a happy ending. My happy ending is simple, Shep lives and meet her/his LI, friends and they rebuild the galaxy.
#57
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 04:58
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rubynorman wrote...
After so much deaths and losses in the game. I want an option to have a happy ending. My happy ending is simple, Shep lives and meet her/his LI, friends and they rebuild the galaxy.
yep thats all Iwant as well I'ts not hard to make that one ending out of lots.
#58
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 05:07
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I felt a happy ending was warranted by the laws of storytelling.
Mass Effect isn't a tragedy, it's a space opera and has followed the archetypical story themes and moods very well right up until the ending of ME3.
Unlike the new Battlestar Galactica (or as I like to call it, "Terminator in Space with Idiots") which goes about undermining and subverting typical science fiction and space opera tropes (which some people enjoy, but those people's opinions are clearly wrong, stupid and smelly), but Mass Effect was always a deconstruction and reconstruction and ultimately a celebration of the staples of the space opera.
You have the broadly cartoonish stereotypes of aliens that "are all alike" which are on one hand picked apart (showing us non-conformist asari like Aria and Samara, cultured and intelligent krogan like Wrex and Charr, etc) and on the other hand clearly shown to be correct "on the whole" (the emphasis on asari being compassionate, gentle souls is shown even amongst their soldiers, and the turians and krogan are some of the biggest badasses in the Reaper war arc) - the way that these characters are written, with great attention to detail and variety while keeping consistent themes and traits makes the universe really come alive.
The ending to Mass Effect 3 is not a space opera ending, it is an ending more suited to surrealist sci-fi like Space Odyssey or high-concept arthouse works. The ending we got isn't the ending that we expected, but it's also not the ending that was necessary for the franchise to feel complete.
Instead what we got was f***ing retarded.
Yay for "ambigous" endings.
Mass Effect isn't a tragedy, it's a space opera and has followed the archetypical story themes and moods very well right up until the ending of ME3.
Unlike the new Battlestar Galactica (or as I like to call it, "Terminator in Space with Idiots") which goes about undermining and subverting typical science fiction and space opera tropes (which some people enjoy, but those people's opinions are clearly wrong, stupid and smelly), but Mass Effect was always a deconstruction and reconstruction and ultimately a celebration of the staples of the space opera.
You have the broadly cartoonish stereotypes of aliens that "are all alike" which are on one hand picked apart (showing us non-conformist asari like Aria and Samara, cultured and intelligent krogan like Wrex and Charr, etc) and on the other hand clearly shown to be correct "on the whole" (the emphasis on asari being compassionate, gentle souls is shown even amongst their soldiers, and the turians and krogan are some of the biggest badasses in the Reaper war arc) - the way that these characters are written, with great attention to detail and variety while keeping consistent themes and traits makes the universe really come alive.
The ending to Mass Effect 3 is not a space opera ending, it is an ending more suited to surrealist sci-fi like Space Odyssey or high-concept arthouse works. The ending we got isn't the ending that we expected, but it's also not the ending that was necessary for the franchise to feel complete.
Instead what we got was f***ing retarded.
Yay for "ambigous" endings.
#59
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 05:12
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I'm not scared: I WANT AN OPTIONAL HAPPY ENDING.
#60
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 05:28
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GIVE ME A POSSIBILITY TO HAVE A HAPPY ENDING BIOWARE
#62
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 05:30
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I echo the calls for the option for a happy ending. I'm not afraid to admit it, I like happy endings. They're not always appropriate and I respect the artist's right to create whatever endings they want, but this medium is all about the player's choice, so surely we have the right to have a plethora of outcomes available based on our choices. If someone were to tell you before you picked up ME1, that no matter what you choose, you will die at the end, I'm not sure I'd have been so eager to play the franchise.
It has to be the best game I've ever played, so it was very sad for me to have very little choice right at the end.
And for those who say that Shepard can live (breathing in the rubble), as far as I know it's only possible if you play multiplayer and get your EMS higher, so it was not a choice for single player campaigns. Perhaps the EC will make the synthesis ending a little more upbeat with Shepard being some kind of AI influence, but honestly, I'm not sure they can do this with integrity. They chose the endings and they're not going to back track on that.
It has to be the best game I've ever played, so it was very sad for me to have very little choice right at the end.
And for those who say that Shepard can live (breathing in the rubble), as far as I know it's only possible if you play multiplayer and get your EMS higher, so it was not a choice for single player campaigns. Perhaps the EC will make the synthesis ending a little more upbeat with Shepard being some kind of AI influence, but honestly, I'm not sure they can do this with integrity. They chose the endings and they're not going to back track on that.
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#63
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 05:34
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That should be an option yes, but me personally i wanted an ending where shep sacrificed him or herself that actually had meaning and wasn't this horrible abomination they made at the end, all through the game they did theese great deaths so well done Legion Thane Mordin but with Shepard tottaly dropped the ball.
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Posté 20 mai 2012 - 05:34
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HellbirdIV wrote...
I felt a happy ending was warranted by the laws of storytelling.
Mass Effect isn't a tragedy, it's a space opera and has followed the archetypical story themes and moods very well right up until the ending of ME3.
Yes, for me also the story-arc itself was guaranteed to lead to an optional (sigh, do we always need to write this?) positive outcome...and I am genuinely suprised whenever I read that people actually expected Shepard to die since part one. Never saw the series like this, to be honest...
And "Terminator in space with idiots"? *chuckles* I like that, such a pity BSG turned out to be...so...weird and uninteresting, at least for me.
#65
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 05:37
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JUST a happy ending. I wanted loads and loads of endings, stemming from large and small decisions throughout the series.
#66
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 05:38
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I wanted a happy ending in there somewhere, definitely.
#67
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 05:46
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because they're in denial and can't admit that in real life, they've encountered so many failures that in games, as a form of escapism, we want to be able to control every aspect of the game's outcome, or influence a large part of it.
Else, I'll____PLAY___ "My Real Life", thank you very much, it has way much more drama, self-sacrifice, selflessness that came to naught than what ME3 had. With damn REAL repercussions to boot.
Else, I'll____PLAY___ "My Real Life", thank you very much, it has way much more drama, self-sacrifice, selflessness that came to naught than what ME3 had. With damn REAL repercussions to boot.
#68
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 05:47
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Didn't want a happy ending. I went into this trilogy expecting Shepard to die at the end of it. Frankly, I'm kind of annoyed by the idea that he might have actually survived the ending.
I wanted bittersweet. The galaxy is saved, but your hero is dead. The populace is decimated, at least one major species had their homeplanet rendered completely uninhabitable. But the Reaper threat is destroyed, and it's a time for rebuilding everything we've lost. We survived, where untold civilizations before had been culled.
I also didn't want a Deus Ex Machina, but I suppose there wasn't much of a chance of that after ME2.
I wanted bittersweet. The galaxy is saved, but your hero is dead. The populace is decimated, at least one major species had their homeplanet rendered completely uninhabitable. But the Reaper threat is destroyed, and it's a time for rebuilding everything we've lost. We survived, where untold civilizations before had been culled.
I also didn't want a Deus Ex Machina, but I suppose there wasn't much of a chance of that after ME2.
#69
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 05:52
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The ending was already happy.
The fact that people can't see that says a lot about those who hate the ending.
The fact that people can't see that says a lot about those who hate the ending.
#70
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 05:53
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I wanted a GOOD ending. A happy ending could be a good ending, but I also recognize that the ending could have been dark or bittersweet and still be good. ME2's ending isn't bad because it's not happy, it's bad because of the dozen or so things that do not make any sense or do not fit with the rest of the series.
#71
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 05:55
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Seemed pretty clear to me. It was envisioned as a trilogy, where your choices from the 1st game impacted the 2nd and, in turn, impacted the 3rd. There were only two ways I could POSSIBLY have seen it end. 1) Shepard dies, or 2) Shepard "rides off into the sunset" never to be heard from again.Vox Draco wrote...
...and I am genuinely suprised whenever I read that people actually expected Shepard to die since part one. Never saw the series like this, to be honest...
But I guess they kind of screwed that up in ME2, where the game begins with Shepard suffocating, freezing, being baked, and then most likely hitting a planets surface with enough force to liquidate him. If you can come back from that...what's a little gunshot wound?
#72
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 05:55
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Talogrungi wrote...
I would have prefered to have the possibility of a happy ending, but that's not even comparable to my desire for all the endings to make chuffing sense.
#73
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 05:56
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Not going to lie, a happy ending is exactly what I want. That house on Rannoch isn't going to build itself.
#74
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 05:58
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I wanted a full range of endings, from the "happy" Shepard and squaddies come through the big battle and then help rebuild galactic civilization, to the "bad" Reapers win and everyone is wiped out (but maybe with a smidge of hope for the next cycle from Liara's databases), and many steps in between. Something where your decisions affected the outcome, and you got to see how.
It's interesting, I was initially struck by not being able to get a "happy" ending, but the more I think about it, the more bothered I am that you can't lose, either. You have to beat the Reapers, you have to break the relays, etc. If you can't lose, it devalues those "victories" even further.
It's interesting, I was initially struck by not being able to get a "happy" ending, but the more I think about it, the more bothered I am that you can't lose, either. You have to beat the Reapers, you have to break the relays, etc. If you can't lose, it devalues those "victories" even further.
#75
Posté 20 mai 2012 - 05:58
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Here's news to some of you, IT.IS.A.GAME.
A game that was advertised to have vastly varied multiple endings.
It should have had ;
1) Shepard dies alone and unmourned, galaxy screwed
2) Shepard dies, wins a Pyrrhic victory. Galaxy mostly screwed
3) Shepard dies a hero, sacrificed to save the galaxy
4) Shepard lives, wins a Pyrrhic victory, galaxy mostly screwed
5) Shepard lives, saved most of the Galaxy
6) Shepard lives, kicked reaper butt, retires with love interest, have blue babies, build house on Rannoch, wrestle baby Krogan named after him /her.
The point is, if you WANT a "sad, bittersweet, *your* Shepard dies, you have that option to play it that way. While the rest of us, play *our* Shepard the way we want to and guide him or her down the path of our choosing.
As for the current retarded Shepard meekly accepts a death sentence suicide by the entity controling the reapers who are at the moment STILL KILLING his friends and actually believes a word it says ... if you like THAT ending. Well now, aren't you the bright, smart, artistic one.
A game that was advertised to have vastly varied multiple endings.
It should have had ;
1) Shepard dies alone and unmourned, galaxy screwed
2) Shepard dies, wins a Pyrrhic victory. Galaxy mostly screwed
3) Shepard dies a hero, sacrificed to save the galaxy
4) Shepard lives, wins a Pyrrhic victory, galaxy mostly screwed
5) Shepard lives, saved most of the Galaxy
6) Shepard lives, kicked reaper butt, retires with love interest, have blue babies, build house on Rannoch, wrestle baby Krogan named after him /her.
The point is, if you WANT a "sad, bittersweet, *your* Shepard dies, you have that option to play it that way. While the rest of us, play *our* Shepard the way we want to and guide him or her down the path of our choosing.
As for the current retarded Shepard meekly accepts a death sentence suicide by the entity controling the reapers who are at the moment STILL KILLING his friends and actually believes a word it says ... if you like THAT ending. Well now, aren't you the bright, smart, artistic one.
Modifié par Archonsg, 20 mai 2012 - 06:01 .
