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[Leafs43]

I didn't need a happy ending.


I just wanted a good conclusive ending. And I didn't get it.

[TheClonesLegacy]

Can I at least have the option

Modifié par TheClonesLegacy, 01 juin 2012 - 06:51 .

[ShepnTali]

There's no reason not to have a happy ending. It ls a goof not to. It's good for business.

[garrusfan1]

feliciano2040 wrote...

The ending was already happy.

The fact that people can't see that says a lot about those who hate the ending.

wait me3 had a happy ending what game did I play then

[ForceXev]

feliciano2040 wrote...

The ending was already happy.

The fact that people can't see that says a lot about those who hate the ending.

The fact that you think it's a happy ending says a lot about those who like the ending.  Shepard dead (non destroy ending).  Crew stranded.  The civilizations of the galaxy stranded.  The Geth annihilated (destroy ending).  A "galactic dark age" (Bioware's words, not mine).  Sounds happy.

[M920CAIN]

M25105 wrote...

You afraid you'll be labeled as immature? That you like Disney endings?

Come on, don't give me that crap with "I only like dark and depressing endings" you and I both know, we wanted Shepard to chug a beer with his team and celebrate their victory over a dead reaper corpse.

Yep, not gonna lie. I always wanted a happy ending! but I wanted it to be harder to obtain than ME2. I also wanted an EPIC FAIL ending like ME2 has were everyone dies except Joker... of course this time I would've wanted an epic fail like this: reapers win the cycle continues ending as the worst scenario. As it is now, you can't fail even if you want to fail Shepard always defeats the reapers, unless that whole control/synthesis things is indoctrination and shepard wakes up in destroy ending. That's why IT is so cool I guess..

Modifié par M920CAIN, 20 mai 2012 - 06:06 .

[Silhouett3]

A war, a devastating war story does not get a happy ending. I don't recall any world-war movie/novel that has a happy ending.

Return of the Jedi is not a war story, it doesn't focus on the consequences of war. It doesn't have the bitter "ruthless calculus" or "the war to end all wars". It doesn't take time for refugees, families, the helpless, war opportunists, politics ,etc. It's about two Skywalkers and that's it. It gets a happy ending. 

ME3 makes it clear that the reality is grim and innocent billions are buying Shepard time by being processed by Reapers. Hell, it puts memorial wall right in the middle of Normandy so the player never forgets the fallen. And if you look back, ME has been preparing us for this dark reality ever since we first revealed the truth about Protheans and Reapers in Virmire.

Apart from all the nonsense, the ending is exactly what I was expecting.

Modifié par Silhouett3, 20 mai 2012 - 06:07 .

[Greed1914]

I'm all for a happy ending as part of a spectrum of endings. You know, like they promised we'd get. But stupid me, I thought 16 endings actually meant that; not the same one with some different colors on it.

I was just replaying ME1, and it still felt really good to finish that game and have Shepard climb out of the rubble with a triumphant grin. When did it become a bad thing to want to feel good after playing a game?

Modifié par Greed1914, 20 mai 2012 - 06:08 .

[TheClonesLegacy]

feliciano2040 wrote...

The ending was already happy.

The fact that people can't see that says a lot about those who hate the ending.

Yes because the Starvation of all Turians that aren't on their homeworld is Happy,
An event caused by the Current end will cause Panic and confusion...There'll be Riots in the streets Open Looting everywhere...
Basically this
and your crew yeah I don't see Tali and Garrus Living for much longer...

Modifié par TheClonesLegacy, 20 mai 2012 - 06:10 .

[The Invisible Commando]

Not going to lie, I'll take a happy ending with cheesy 80's music to boot. Awww yyeeaaaaahhhh.

[cyrslash1974]

With the possibility to have a happy ending, the replay value of the 3 games (not only ME3) will be more important.

If you play a RPG and that all endings are "bad", there is no replayability. And replayability = buy DLC.

[Klijpope]

For my part, I believe Shepard has been a dead-man/woman-walking since the beginning of ME2, so it is appropriate for them to die in the end. Also, if they've committed genocide down the line (you have about 3-4 chances to do this), Shepard really doesn't deserve to survive.

However, I suppose there could be chance for survival, but I'd be against it having to do with having the highest EMS and the most 'paragon' choices - something arbitrary and opaque would be more fun (a bit like how the SM decisions went). Not knowing why you survived would be better than smugly surviving because you-was-bestest.

There is another point. Many have compared ME3 to RotJ or RotK or whatnot. However, these movies were either rated U or PG. ME is 'mature', equivalent to an R or 15 rating - how many genre movies like that have a totally happy ending? Starship Troopers, maybe, but that was so satirical, it was a victory for fascism.

If we look at some films with alternate endings, which are better? Blade Runner original cut, with VO Deckard running away with Rachel, or the Final Cut version, with them walking into ambiguity with Gaff's warning/threat ringing in their ears. Or, The Descent, with the original cut's appropriate dark ending, or the the US version's lame happy escape cop out (nailed my colours to the mast, there).

Would The Thing (either one) be better if the survivors got rescued?

Modifié par Klijpope, 20 mai 2012 - 06:26 .

[Gyroscopic_Trout]

A happy ending doesn't have to be vapid, nor without cost. Dragon Age: Origins had the possibility for a happy ending where everybody lived, but you had to make the proverbial deal with the devil to get it. Frankly, the Dark Ritual felt to me to be the more interesting and well done ending, while the heroic and dutiful sacrifice one just felt cliche.

As for ME3's ending, Shepard's death felt contrived, like the last ten minutes of the game was hell bent on killing Shepard and shoving this clumsy sacrifice symbolism down our throats.

[Gen Petitt]

Would I have liked one hell yes but I would be happy with logic!

[garrusfan1]

alright why does shepard have to die he already deid in me2 saving joker so their is your sacrificing for the greater good why does he have to die again and when he is rebuilt he still fights the reapers and gets like no help exept from cerberus who he hates (at least mine did) but he still fights and my shepards always helped everyone and in me3 weren`t complete jack a** to the council and said told you I was right he put it behind him and helped so WHY DOES SHEPARD HAVE TO DIE why can`t he get a happy ending he deserves it

[fr33stylez]

I didn't care either way, personally I thought Shepard's survival shouldn't be the focus of the series. What's at stake, the entire galaxy, is much bigger. If Shepard lived or died, all I wanted is for it to make sense. The endings didn't.

Shepard already died once - why was it OK to forcibly kill Shepard in ME2? Because it was used as a stupid plot device and he was resurrected 10 minutes later? You should be just as angry with Shepard dying ME2 as you are with him/her dying in ME3 - it was even more forced in ME2.

And to be frank, I think saying "there should a range of options, including Shepard living!" is just a roundabout way of saying you simply want Shepard to live. Let's be real - if Shepard lived in all the current endings no one would be coming here posting "Bioware should've given us the option for Shepard to die!" Look, we all love Shepard, he's our main character, but that doesn't mean the variety of the endings necessarily needed to revolve around Shepard surviving. It would actually make more sense for the different endings to revolve around the fate of the galaxy (something Bioware failed at doing anyhow).

Not that I'm against Shepard living at the end, because I'm not, especially if it made sense within the confines of the story. But I have a feeling if we were stuck with the exact same stupid ME3 endings, but Shepard lived and got to see his LI, the outrage about the endings would've been a lot less, which I think misses the point with the problem with the current endings.

Just my opinion.

[ardias89]

There is already enough misunderstanding about the term "a good ending". We got an ending that didnt make sense and pro-enders have since to their own pleasure translated "a good ending" to "a happy ending". Shows something about their maturity. Lets get an ending that makes sense but yes i would like a happy ending if we get rid of the one already there!

[malakim2099]

M25105 wrote...

You afraid you'll be labeled as immature? That you like Disney endings?

Come on, don't give me that crap with "I only like dark and depressing endings" you and I both know, we wanted Shepard to chug a beer with his team and celebrate their victory over a dead reaper corpse.

Oh, I would like a happy ending as an option. Garrus and Shepard chugging beers in front of Big Ben while the smoking wreck of Harbinger is seen in the distance would be awesome. And it shows there's still a ####load of work that needs doing. And I don't think it takes away from the fact that the Galaxy got ripped to Hell and back, but you CAN rebuild.

But, more importantly, I want endings that make a whit of sense. And right now, they just aren't there... which is why a lot of people like the Indoctrination Theory, because it DOES make sense out of the garbled endings. 

[thesnake777]

I would have liked a Happy ending where shep is with his romance etc.
I also wanted a total Reaper Victory ending where i have to watch them harvest everybody.
I wanted the whole damn spectrum.

[ardias89]

thesnake777 wrote...

I would have liked a Happy ending where shep is with his romance etc.
I also wanted a total Reaper Victory ending where i have to watch them harvest everybody.
I wanted the whole damn spectrum.

I like your style!

[The Night Mammoth]

Klijpope wrote...

For my part, I believe Shepard has been a dead-man/woman-walking since the beginning of ME2, so it is appropriate for them to die in the end. Also, if they've committed genocide down the line (you have about 3-4 chances to do this), Shepard really doesn't deserve to survive.

However, I suppose there could be chance for survival, but I'd be against it having to do with having the highest EMS and the most 'paragon' choices - something arbitrary and opaque would be more fun (a bit like how the SM decisions went). Not knowing why you survived would be better than smugly surviving because you-was-bestest.

There is another point. Many have compared ME3 to RotJ or RotK or whatnot. However, these movies were either rated U or PG. ME is 'mature', equivalent to an R or 15 rating - how many genre movies like that have a totally happy ending? Starship Troopers, maybe, but that was so satirical, it was a victory for fascism.

If we look at some films with alternate endings, which are better? Blade Runner original cut, with VO Deckard running away with Rachel, or the Final Cut version, with them walking into ambiguity with Gaff's warning/threat ringing in their ears. Or, The Descent, with the original cut's appropriate dark ending, or the the US version's lame happy escape cop out (nailed my colours to the mast, there).

Would The Thing (either one) be better if the survivors got rescued?

No, because all those films set their tone and atmosphere perfectly for the outcome they have at the end. 

Mass Effect could go either way as far as I'm concerned. 

[TheClonesLegacy]

Klijpope wrote...

For my part, I believe Shepard has been a dead-man/woman-walking since the beginning of ME2, so it is appropriate for them to die in the end. Also, if they've committed genocide down the line (you have about 3-4 chances to do this), Shepard really doesn't deserve to survive.

However, I suppose there could be chance for survival, but I'd be against it having to do with having the highest EMS and the most 'paragon' choices - something arbitrary and opaque would be more fun (a bit like how the SM decisions went). Not knowing why you survived would be better than smugly surviving because you-was-bestest.

There is another point. Many have compared ME3 to RotJ or RotK or whatnot. However, these movies were either rated U or PG. ME is 'mature', equivalent to an R or 15 rating - how many genre movies like that have a totally happy ending? Starship Troopers, maybe, but that was so satirical, it was a victory for fascism.

If we look at some films with alternate endings, which are better? Blade Runner original cut, with VO Deckard running away with Rachel, or the Final Cut version, with them walking into ambiguity with Gaff's warning/threat ringing in their ears. Or, The Descent, with the original cut's appropriate dark ending, or the the US version's lame happy escape cop out (nailed my colours to the mast, there).

Would The Thing (either one) be better if the survivors got rescued?

So your saying a Film/Games Rating Dictates it's ending?
You make my Film Studies Teacher Cry with your ignorence.
Also don't ever try using the Decent for a Reason to have an Oh-so Depressing ending Because that movie was an Abomination
Also the guy above me Has it down

Modifié par TheClonesLegacy, 20 mai 2012 - 06:45 .

[eddieoctane]

I always wanted a happy ending. I understood that I may not get one, however, and I WAS fine with that. Then we didn't even get a properly written bittersweet ending.Clarification on a terrible written piece of garbage still leaves you with garbage, so I'm not sure what can be done to get my business back short of a major re-write that gives a happy ending as an option.

[garrusfan1]

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

feliciano2040 wrote...

The ending was already happy.

The fact that people can't see that says a lot about those who hate the ending.

Yes because the Starvation of all Turians that aren't on their homeworld is Happy,
An event caused by the Current end will cause Panic and confusion...There'll be Riots in the streets Open Looting everywhere...
Basically this
and your crew yeah I don't see Tali and Garrus Living for much longer...

thanks like I said me3 had a happy ending what gam did I play then

[The Spamming Troll]

i dont need a happy ending.

id like an ending that makes me feel the exact opposite of the way i felt when i played through the current end.