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[DirtyPhoenix]

Bill Casey wrote...

Unless your love interest is dead, the ending already did ask you that question...
Did you think the green wave didn't hit them, or did you just not even think about it ?

I'm floored by this post...

Weren't you the one who stated all synthesis supporters are objectively stupid? Why are you here then? To enlighten us stupid people?

[DirtyPhoenix]

CosmicGnosis wrote...

This is for the Synthesis supporters:

Destroy vs. Control. Which one do you prefer, and why?

Control. I could never kill the Geth. Infact I like both Synthesis and Control, my Shepards alternate between them.

[masster blaster]

I can if you want Pirate. Since I managed to ****** of some Synthesis people, I may as well post in here from time to time. Since ever since I posted on here about a week ago. Synthesis people have become more active, and have been visiting the IT thread.

So since all of this was my fault, I will say I am sorry for interupting your thread, and offer a truce. If you don't except it, then we will keep doing what has been happening for the last week. Or we don't and leave eachother alone.

[Xilizhra]

Just so you know, I'm not a "Synthesis person."

[Taboo]

I work REALLY hard to take ****s on Ieldra's stuff (all in good fun mate ) and this guy can do it without trying. I am speechless. 

To answer the question Ieldra, my Shepard wouldn't Synthesize Miranda simply because he doesn't have her consent. While I know she'd approve of the outcome I don't think she'd approve of the...risk or whatever.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 12 octobre 2012 - 02:55 .

[masster blaster]

Xil, ya I figured after reading your post on here, and on the IT thread. So more of a Controler, yet just waiting for all dlc to play out, and see if IT is right or wrong.

[masster blaster]

So Lord do we agree about a truce, or not?

Pm if you wake up, or when ever you come back sincce your the head guy around here. ( sorry thread master, but haven't seen your post at all in the last 34 pages.)

[DirtyPhoenix]

The Lord has just grazed the last page with his post.

[masster blaster]

Okay then Pirate do we have a deal.

[Taboo]

Ieldra as thread master? Bahahaha. Sorry I had a good laugh at that. No he's the only one who's attempted to make sense of this thing and he deserves your respect for it. Even if we disagree.

He just needs to stop being so SRS.

pirate1802 wrote...

CosmicGnosis wrote...

This is for the Synthesis supporters:

Destroy vs. Control. Which one do you prefer, and why?

Control. I could never kill the Geth. Infact I like both Synthesis and Control, my Shepards alternate between them.

I'm actually more wary of Control than I am Synthesis now. It makes me far more nervous because it has the potential for abuse. Considering my Shepard's distaste for long standing authoritarian measures it kind of gets chucked out the window.

Now, interesting thought (maybe). Would the imprint take only the best parts of Shepard's mind or the whole thing? If you've got a weary broken mind being put into that AI Synthesis starts to look a LOT better in the long run.

I never thought I'd say that. 

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 12 octobre 2012 - 03:16 .

[His Name was HYR!!]

CosmicGnosis wrote...

This is for the Synthesis supporters:

Destroy vs. Control. Which one do you prefer, and why?

Control.

It adds no further devastation to the galaxy, you have the Reapers making things right, you have all that knowledge now at the galaxy's disposal. There's risk involved, but it's a worthy one, and I'm fairly sure I know what my AI equivalent will do: do my duty then get the hell out of dodge. I'm not, in my nature, one that seeks power.

Destroy has some appeal in that it lets Shepard finally just "get the job done and go home" after toiling away for so long. This is about something greater than just me, though. And things have to get worse for the galaxy in this one before they get better; I'd like to to avoid that if I can.

Ieldra2 wrote...

Here's a question which was asked on an external forum. It's one I think every Synthesis supporter should be asked (I am one, so don't take this the wrong way) and I'm finding myself surprised that nobody asked it yet:

Would you Synthesize your LI without his/her consent?

I have my answer, but I'll ask for others' first. Needless to say, if your answer is "no", you should reconsider choosing Synthesis. If your answer is "yes", what's your rationale?

I've said before, and will say again, I don't choose Synthesis in a bubble. I have to have a damn good reason to choose something like this. The circumstances at hand in the end of ME3 are pretty much it: as I see it, best solution to end the war, and I have to think of now (all lives on the line) and the future (galactic recovery).

And I choose it knowing that my LI will be synthesized without her consent, like all other organics.

Modifié par HYR 2.0, 12 octobre 2012 - 03:22 .

[Eterna]

I'm actually more wary of Control than I am Synthesis now. It makes me far more nervous because it has the potential for abuse. Considering my Shepard's distaste for long standing authoritarian measures it kind of gets chucked out the window.

Now, interesting thought (maybe). Would the imprint take only the best parts of Shepard's mind or the whole thing? If you've got a weary broken mind being put into that AI Synthesis starts to look a LOT better in the long run.

I never thought I'd say that. 

Contrl is only worrisome if you're not confident in your Shepards resolve and motivations. If you're unsure about how your Shepard would react with such power you shouldn't pick control. 

Modifié par Eterna5, 12 octobre 2012 - 03:25 .

[DirtyPhoenix]

masster blaster wrote...

Okay then Pirate do we have a deal.

Only if the other choices are to destroy this thread or control it.

[Taboo]

Yeah that's my concern. I mean no one is going to be completely lucid at that point. You can put my suspension of disbelief up pretty high but I'm not putting someone in that state in power.

It would certainly be a good idea if my Shepard was perfect. He's not.

[masster blaster]

So I guess that's a no, oh well I tried. See ya.

[Eterna]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Yeah that's my concern. I mean no one is going to be completely lucid at that point. You can put my suspension of disbelief up pretty high but I'm not putting someone in that state in power.

It would certainly be a good idea if my Shepard was perfect. He's not.

It's really not about perfection. The uploaded Shepalyst doesn't have emotion, it's programed to follow your Shepards ethics. If you're a Paragon the galaxy should be fine. The problem is renegade and paragade Sheps, then it gets muddy.

Modifié par Eterna5, 12 octobre 2012 - 03:32 .

[Taboo]

Eterna5 wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

Yeah that's my concern. I mean no one is going to be completely lucid at that point. You can put my suspension of disbelief up pretty high but I'm not putting someone in that state in power.

It would certainly be a good idea if my Shepard was perfect. He's not.

It's really not about perfection. The uploaded Shepalyst doesn't have emotion, it's programed to follow your Shepards ethics. If you're a Paragon the galaxy should be fine. The problem is renegade and paragade Sheps.

And that's the issue. My Shepard levels out depending on how I'm playing as either Neutral or Paragade, although Renegon might be more fitting in ME3 simply because of all the decisions he has to make.

I wouldn't put that guy's uploaded mind in something that powerful.

[Bill Casey]

Paragon Shepard brainwashed the heretics...
He spies on other people's conversations, loots the dead and has an astronomical body count...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 12 octobre 2012 - 04:03 .

[CosmicGnosis]

Taboo-XX wrote...

I'm actually more wary of Control than I am Synthesis now. It makes me far more nervous because it has the potential for abuse. Considering my Shepard's distaste for long standing authoritarian measures it kind of gets chucked out the window.

Now, interesting thought (maybe). Would the imprint take only the best parts of Shepard's mind or the whole thing? If you've got a weary broken mind being put into that AI Synthesis starts to look a LOT better in the long run.

I never thought I'd say that. 

Interesting, Taboo. But couldn't Synthesis end up backfiring in a more spectacular way than Control ever could? After all... Synthesis affects all life in the galaxy!!!

Modifié par CosmicGnosis, 12 octobre 2012 - 04:10 .

[His Name was HYR!!]

CosmicGnosis wrote...


Interesting, Taboo. But couldn't Synthesis end up backfiring in a more spectular way than Control ever could? After all... Synthesis affects all life in the galaxy!!!

Not all life, just the organics.

Synthetics can take our place if we organics all wither. :happy:

It would be an epic fail for the catalyst, however.

Modifié par HYR 2.0, 12 octobre 2012 - 04:09 .

[CosmicGnosis]

Bill Casey wrote...

Paragon Shepard brainwashed the heretics...
He spies on other people's conversations, loots the dead and has an astronomical body count...

Great, I'm glad you brought that up. I have more questions for all of you here. Please answer with your canon choices.

- Did you rewrite or destroy the geth heretics?
- Did you destroy or save the Collector Base?
- Did the above choices influence your final choice of Destroy, Control, or Synthesis? That is, did you follow a certain philosophy that you thought was consistent with these choices?

[Bill Casey]

I destroyed the base and the heretics...
I found brainwashing the heretics beyond unethical, (and unfair to the other geth to experience what the heretics went through, as memories are shared) and I destroyed the base because I knew the Illusive Man was going to get himself indoctrinated...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 12 octobre 2012 - 04:17 .

[Bill Casey]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Now, interesting thought (maybe). Would the imprint take only the best parts of Shepard's mind or the whole thing? If you've got a weary broken mind being put into that AI Synthesis starts to look a LOT better in the long run.

I never thought I'd say that. 

One positive aspect of Control at face value is if it goes belly up, there's still a chance to build and activate another crucible...

Synthesis isn't quite as reversible, in that if it goes badly, even if you wanted to you can't ever use it to destroy the reapers without wiping out all life...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 12 octobre 2012 - 04:40 .

[DirtyPhoenix]

Bill Casey wrote...

Synthesis isn't quite as reversible, in that if it goes badly, even if you wanted to you can't ever use it to destroy the reapers without wiping out all life...

Why so? The rachni queen is connected to her children, killing the children doesn kill the queen or vice versa. Killing one Geth platform doesn't kill other Geth platforms, or the consensus..

I suppose with the advancement in technology races would eventually find a way to reverse the effects if they want. there's nothing on face value suggesting it's impossible.

[DirtyPhoenix]

CosmicGnosis wrote....

- Did you rewrite or destroy the geth heretics?
- Did you destroy or save the Collector Base?
- Did the above choices influence your final choice of Destroy, Control, or Synthesis? That is, did you follow a certain philosophy that you thought was consistent with these choices?

-Rewrite the geth. As Legion said, applying our moral standards on them is stupid. Moreover, if he, as a Geth has no problem with it. what do I have to say?

-Saved the collector base. Yep I was aware what kind of a man TIM was, and that he was probably going to misuse it to advance human cause but I figured he'll still use the base to fight the reapers and that's better than leaving all that tech rotting away doing nothing. Lesser of two evils. Ofcourse that was before ME3 where he saves the base no matter what.

-Yes. Chose Synthesis. Lesser of the three (or four) evils IMO. Also my Shepard was a paragade, 70% paragon 30% renegade. She had a renegade streak. If she saw something that needed to be done, she'll do it regardless of whether its the most popular choice or if she would be reviled as a monster.

And she is happy to let the galaxy to remember her as a horrible monster till the end of time, if that means she saved the galaxy without commiting genocide or subjugating it to dictatorship. Better be the monster who saved the galaxy than be the hero who destroyed it.

Modifié par pirate1802, 12 octobre 2012 - 05:11 .