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[DirtyPhoenix]

mass perfection wrote...

atheelogos wrote...

Seival wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Thanks, Seival. I'll read it later. I have also renamed the group you gave me. Not sure if there's anything that can't be discussed in this thread, but things in a slower-moving group have a longer life and things don't get lost so easily.

Synthesis is the perfect ground to expand Mass Effect Story (to create a new trilogy for example).

I couldn't agree more. The other two endings would be more of the same, but Synthesis literially rewrites life. I can't wait to see what that galaxy looks like!

If BW aims for a story that's at least on the same scale as the Reaper conflict then how are they going to make something that's not extremely cheesy?It'd probably be better if the story was a small scale like you're a merc and you have to bring down another merc organization that rivals your own.

You don't have to have a super galaxy-eating threat everytime to make a good game. You don't have to top the Reapers with something even bigger (though I suspect that's where BW is going) to make a great game, smaller threats work just fine.

[His Name was HYR!!]

pirate1802 wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...

HYR 2.0 wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...

Eh I'll take more of the same over space magic.

lol, like Destroy wasn't space magic or anything. :innocent:

Lol well all the Crucible was space magic more or less  just not all of it was to the "Change genetic code to cybernetic" degree

High EMS Destroy can technically be seen as a big ass EMP Blast.

Which somehow leave the ships intact.

I made a thread calling Destroy a pseudo-EMP and everyone took issue with it whilst ignoring the main topic.

And now, this. <_<

[Eterna]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Thanks, Seival. I'll read it later. I have also renamed the group you gave me. Not sure if there's anything that can't be discussed in this thread, but things in a slower-moving group have a longer life and things don't get lost so easily.

With the group we can actually discuss theories and ideas about Synthesis without Synthesis haters inevitably derailing the thread into a "Synthesis is rape!" debacle. 

[DirtyPhoenix]

I think I detected one such Synthesis-hater in that group too. We should scan them carefully before adding.. Deploy the thought police!

[Jake Boone]

pirate1802 wrote...
Which somehow leave the ships intact.

So it's an EMP blast that only targets reaper tech. a rEMP if you will

edit: just a suggestion for the group pic

Modifié par Jake Boone, 21 octobre 2012 - 06:57 .

[DirtyPhoenix]

@Jake: That, or this:



I can't decide which one I like more.

[mass perfection]

Is Joker and EDI able to have kids now?

[DirtyPhoenix]

mass perfection wrote...

Is Joker and EDI able to have kids now?

Nope.

[Jake Boone]

pirate1802 wrote...

@Jake: That, or this:



I can't decide which one I like more.

Yours. I was just trying to find something other than the Keiji pic. I didn't feel it quite captured the meaning of synthesis (or at least my version).

[Taboo]

Yeah the Adam and Eve nonsense is strong here. Eugh.

**** is still offensive, sorry Ieldra.

Too bad about Joker and EDI's baby though. They could have named it...

Norman D. Moreau.

True story.

Modifié par Taboo-XX, 21 octobre 2012 - 01:39 .

[Steelcan]

BioWare just has to have their Adam and Eve reference.............,,,

[fiendishchicken]

Yeah, I prefer the whole "sorry EDI, sorry Geth, but you have to die so I can kill the Reapers."

Though to be honest, I'd rather not use the crucible at all. It's an ass pull.

No offense to synthesizers here (I've let you guys start to grow on me) but synthesis, in my humble opinion, is an ass pull. You spend the whole trilogy looking for a way to destroy the Reapers. Then elements in ME3 (an argument could be made as early as ME2) you get the whole control vibe going, then in the vanilla game (and still with the EC) you get this whole merge life vitalism thing and bioware strongly implies this is what they think is best.

I'm not out to control the Reapers or sacrifice my "life energy" to make the Reapers docile. I'm out to do what I set out to do in the first game, and that is blow them to kingdom ****ing come. I don't care about any information or whatever they have or if it's genocide or whatever. They started it, now I'm gonna end it.

I just wish I could do it without satiating the little glowstick bastard.

[Steelcan]

fiendishchicken wrote...

Yeah, I prefer the whole "sorry EDI, sorry Geth, but you have to die so I can kill the Reapers."

Though to be honest, I'd rather not use the crucible at all. It's an ass pull.

No offense to synthesizers here (I've let you guys start to grow on me) but synthesis, in my humble opinion, is an ass pull. You spend the whole trilogy looking for a way to destroy the Reapers. Then elements in ME3 (an argument could be made as early as ME2) you get the whole control vibe going, then in the vanilla game (and still with the EC) you get this whole merge life vitalism thing and bioware strongly implies this is what they think is best.

I'm not out to control the Reapers or sacrifice my "life energy" to make the Reapers docile. I'm out to do what I set out to do in the first game, and that is blow them to kingdom ****ing come. I don't care about any information or whatever they have or if it's genocide or whatever. They started it, now I'm gonna end it.

I just wish I could do it without satiating the little glowstick bastard.

. I don't hunk he likes destroy too much, he kinda dies and stuff

[fiendishchicken]

Steelcan wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

Yeah, I prefer the whole "sorry EDI, sorry Geth, but you have to die so I can kill the Reapers."

Though to be honest, I'd rather not use the crucible at all. It's an ass pull.

No offense to synthesizers here (I've let you guys start to grow on me) but synthesis, in my humble opinion, is an ass pull. You spend the whole trilogy looking for a way to destroy the Reapers. Then elements in ME3 (an argument could be made as early as ME2) you get the whole control vibe going, then in the vanilla game (and still with the EC) you get this whole merge life vitalism thing and bioware strongly implies this is what they think is best.

I'm not out to control the Reapers or sacrifice my "life energy" to make the Reapers docile. I'm out to do what I set out to do in the first game, and that is blow them to kingdom ****ing come. I don't care about any information or whatever they have or if it's genocide or whatever. They started it, now I'm gonna end it.

I just wish I could do it without satiating the little glowstick bastard.

. I don't hunk he likes destroy too much, he kinda dies and stuff

Yeah I know. I meet the little bastard 5 minutes before and have to listen to everything he says? BS I say. 

My Shepard blatantly ignores him. He stops listening after "destroy Reapers" and just shuffles over to it. He doesn't care about casualties or consequences or whatever. The "difficult decision" turns out to be one of the easiest he's ever made. 

[Steelcan]

fiendishchicken wrote..
Yeah I know. I meet the little bastard 5 minutes before and have to listen to everything he says? BS I say. 

My Shepard blatantly ignores him. He stops listening after "destroy Reapers" and just shuffles over to it. He doesn't care about casualties or consequences or whatever. The "difficult decision" turns out to be one of the easiest he's ever made. 

. "You can destroy the reapers but that would be a really bad idea"

"Yeah that's nice, get out of my way"

[fiendishchicken]

Steelcan wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote..
Yeah I know. I meet the little bastard 5 minutes before and have to listen to everything he says? BS I say. 

My Shepard blatantly ignores him. He stops listening after "destroy Reapers" and just shuffles over to it. He doesn't care about casualties or consequences or whatever. The "difficult decision" turns out to be one of the easiest he's ever made. 

. "You can destroy the reapers but that would be a really bad idea"

"Yeah that's nice, get out of my way"

Exactly. If EDI and the Geth's deaths is what it takes to "permanently pacify" the Reapers, so be it. My Shepard holds no remorse or guilt for doing what needed to be done. It's a shame they had to die, but their death achieved victory and survival for us. They'll be remembered. 

EDI would approve. If she were with Shepard, she'd wrench the gun from his hand and shoot the pipe herself. The Reapers repulse her entirely. She tells you this herself.

[DirtyPhoenix]

Not sure about that last part..

[Samtheman63]

pirate1802 wrote...

Not sure about that last part..

EDI herself says the reapers must be destroyed, and that she would risk non functionality to stop them

[jtav]

When she thought there was no other means to stop them. If she is alive--if the Reapers are alive--it's wrong to kill them when other means suffice for stopping them.

[DirtyPhoenix]

Samtheman63 wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Not sure about that last part..

EDI herself says the reapers must be destroyed, and that she would risk non functionality to stop them

Before any of us knew of the catalyst's existance..

[DirtyPhoenix]

jtav wrote...

When she thought there was no other means to stop them. If she is alive--if the Reapers are alive--it's wrong to kill them when other means suffice for stopping them.

exactly.

[Samtheman63]

the catalyst is contolling the reapers, the same reapers who rid the galaxy of life every 50k years, i suggest you don't listen to him

synthesis/control is exactly what they want, they try to manipulate shepard, first through TiM, and then through the child, both of which end in shepard commiting suicide funnily enough

[darthnick427]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...

HYR 2.0 wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...

Eh I'll take more of the same over space magic.

lol, like Destroy wasn't space magic or anything. :innocent:

Lol well all the Crucible was space magic more or less  just not all of it was to the "Change genetic code to cybernetic" degree

High EMS Destroy can technically be seen as a big ass EMP Blast.

Which somehow leave the ships intact.

I made a thread calling Destroy a pseudo-EMP and everyone took issue with it whilst ignoring the main topic.

And now, this. <_<

Well clearly those people were idiots then because Destroy is a pseudo-EMP or at least behaved as one

[fiendishchicken]

jtav wrote...

When she thought there was no other means to stop them. If she is alive--if the Reapers are alive--it's wrong to kill them when other means suffice for stopping them.

It's not wrong at all. I'm not going to control them and I'm not going to merge with them. They have proven, for the better part of a billion years, possibly more, that their "solution" entails genocide.

And you're making an asspull now, saying that EDI would want a different solution. She doesn't want to see them destroyed because "it's the only way", she want's to see them destroyed because she hates them, she is repulsed by them. 

The galaxy, the universe, is a better place with the Reapers gone.

[atheelogos]

fiendishchicken wrote...

Yeah, I prefer the whole "sorry EDI, sorry Geth, but you have to die so I can kill the Reapers."

Though to be honest, I'd rather not use the crucible at all. It's an ass pull.

No offense to synthesizers here (I've let you guys start to grow on me) but synthesis, in my humble opinion, is an ass pull. You spend the whole trilogy looking for a way to destroy the Reapers.

Actually I was trying to stop the Reapers not destroy them. I never believed destroying their whole fleet was possible. They were just too powerful. I mean come on they at the least a billion years of tech on us.