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[Tomwew]

Bill Casey wrote...

If I thought EDI would pick synthesis, I wouldn't feel bad about killing her...

clearly she didn't understand individuality, freedom, or what makes life so wonderful, diversity. in fact if she thought synthesis was a good thing, she might just be proving the catalyst right. and THAT is truly terrifying ha.

[fiendishchicken]

ATiBotka wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

He also wouldn't be happy about being forcibly joined with everything else because someone millions of miles away didnt have the balls to kill the reapers

I "have the balls" to kill them. If I chose Destroy, I don't regret it. I just like Synthesis better.

And I have the balls to change everyone's DNA in the galaxy.

I'm not going to change my own DNA though. I choose not to.

I don't want to be "better" I want to stay the way I am.

[darthnick427]

ATiBotka wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...



Mordin I think would pick either Destroy or Refuse mainly because his conversation about culture and the collectors in ME2 "No digestive system replaced by tech, No nervous system replace by tech, no soul replaced by tech. Whever they were, gone forever. Understand now?" I think there would be far too many variables to consider in synthesis and would pick destroy.

But that's not what happen in Synthesis.

I know but based on the limited data given at the time that is probably the result he'd come to.

[darthnick427]

Steelcan wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...



Mordin I think would pick either Destroy or Refuse mainly because his conversation about culture and the collectors in ME2 "No digestive system replaced by tech, No nervous system replace by tech, no soul replaced by tech. Whever they were, gone forever. Understand now?" I think there would be far too many variables to consider in synthesis and would pick destroy.

But that's not what happen in Synthesis.

. Every cell of every organism is infused with reaper technology.  Pretty similar to me

It does seem similar. I'll give it that

[His Name was HYR!!]

Bill Casey wrote...

If I thought EDI would pick synthesis, I wouldn't feel bad about killing her...

So you feel no remorse over death if the person who dies doesn't agree with you?

How charmingly fascist.

(I'll remember this next time you try to call Synthesis/Control so terrible).

darthnick427 wrote...

I agree with most but I'm gonna half to disagree with a few.

Mordin I think would pick either Destroy or Refuse mainly because his conversation about culture and the collectors in ME2 "No digestive system replaced by tech, No nervous system replace by tech, no soul replaced by tech. Whever they were, gone forever. Understand now?" I think there would be far too many variables to consider in synthesis and would pick destroy.

I think Liara might pick destroy if romancing Shepard but I could see control happening too if not.

Legion I think would refuse tbh. His response to the catalyst would most likely be: "You offer to give us our future. We will achieve our own future."

Samara would pick destroy based off of this quote "Treat the reapers as you would any other enemy. Show them no mercy weakness or quarter."

I also think Thane would pick destroy as well.

It would serve you well to read on after the posts you quote. I addressed pretty much all of this already.

[ATiBotka]

Steelcan wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...



Mordin I think would pick either Destroy or Refuse mainly because his conversation about culture and the collectors in ME2 "No digestive system replaced by tech, No nervous system replace by tech, no soul replaced by tech. Whever they were, gone forever. Understand now?" I think there would be far too many variables to consider in synthesis and would pick destroy.

But that's not what happen in Synthesis.

. Every cell of every organism is infused with reaper technology.  Pretty similar to me

Aaaaaaand it's not Reaper tech.

[mass perfection]

Stopped=/=destroyed.Destroyers somehow get "stopped" mixed up with "destroy".EDI said that the Reapers need to be STOPPED and that she'd risk non functionality for that to happen.Traynor herself says she just wants the Reapers stopped,not destroyed.There are many other characters who say they want the Reapers stopped not destroyed.

[fiendishchicken]

ATiBotka wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...



Mordin I think would pick either Destroy or Refuse mainly because his conversation about culture and the collectors in ME2 "No digestive system replaced by tech, No nervous system replace by tech, no soul replaced by tech. Whever they were, gone forever. Understand now?" I think there would be far too many variables to consider in synthesis and would pick destroy.

But that's not what happen in Synthesis.

. Every cell of every organism is infused with reaper technology.  Pretty similar to me

Aaaaaaand it's not Reaper tech.

Then what is it?

Shepard's "soul"? That's mystic, vitalism crap. 

That's **** that was used in the goddamned dark ages.

[DirtyPhoenix]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

How charmingly fascist.

Lmao

[darthnick427]

mass perfection wrote...

Stopped=/=destroyed.Destroyers somehow get "stopped" mixed up with "destroy".EDI said that the Reapers need to be STOPPED and that she'd risk non functionality for that to happen.Traynor herself says she just wants the Reapers stopped,not destroyed.There are many other characters who say they want the Reapers stopped not destroyed.

As I recall Traynor also says she wants to tear a reaper a part with her bare hands. And strong states she wants the reapers dead after rannoch.

[fiendishchicken]

mass perfection wrote...

Stopped=/=destroyed.Destroyers somehow get "stopped" mixed up with "destroy".EDI said that the Reapers need to be STOPPED and that she'd risk non functionality for that to happen.Traynor herself says she just wants the Reapers stopped,not destroyed.There are many other characters who say they want the Reapers stopped not destroyed.

I'm pretty sure they meant both stopped and destroyed. I want to STOP them by DESTROYING them. That's the only solution for me.

[ATiBotka]

fiendishchicken wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...



Mordin I think would pick either Destroy or Refuse mainly because his conversation about culture and the collectors in ME2 "No digestive system replaced by tech, No nervous system replace by tech, no soul replaced by tech. Whever they were, gone forever. Understand now?" I think there would be far too many variables to consider in synthesis and would pick destroy.

But that's not what happen in Synthesis.

. Every cell of every organism is infused with reaper technology.  Pretty similar to me

Aaaaaaand it's not Reaper tech.

Then what is it?

Shepard's "soul"? That's mystic, vitalism crap. 

That's **** that was used in the goddamned dark ages.

I don't know. But I don't think it's Reaper tech. Why would be?

[darthnick427]

ATiBotka wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...



Mordin I think would pick either Destroy or Refuse mainly because his conversation about culture and the collectors in ME2 "No digestive system replaced by tech, No nervous system replace by tech, no soul replaced by tech. Whever they were, gone forever. Understand now?" I think there would be far too many variables to consider in synthesis and would pick destroy.

But that's not what happen in Synthesis.

. Every cell of every organism is infused with reaper technology.  Pretty similar to me

Aaaaaaand it's not Reaper tech.

Well since it uses the Citadel itself to direct the energy and has reaper tech built into the device itself.....It kind of is reaper tech....

[Bill Casey]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

If I thought EDI would pick synthesis, I wouldn't feel bad about killing her...

So you feel no remorse over death if the person who dies doesn't agree with you?

How charmingly fascist.

(I'll remember this next time you try to call Synthesis/Control so terrible).

It's precisely because Synthesis is so terrible...
It's monstrous...

Anyone who tries to do something like that needs a bullet in the head...
It's the whole reason we're fighting the reapers...

If the Reapers were like "Hey guys. Anyone want to be altered? No? k.thnx bye" they wouldn't even be enemies...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 21 octobre 2012 - 06:40 .

[DirtyPhoenix]

fiendishchicken wrote...

Then what is it?

Crucible tech + Shepard tech?

[darthnick427]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

If I thought EDI would pick synthesis, I wouldn't feel bad about killing her...

So you feel no remorse over death if the person who dies doesn't agree with you?

How charmingly fascist.

(I'll remember this next time you try to call Synthesis/Control so terrible).

darthnick427 wrote...

I agree with most but I'm gonna half to disagree with a few.

Mordin I think would pick either Destroy or Refuse mainly because his conversation about culture and the collectors in ME2 "No digestive system replaced by tech, No nervous system replace by tech, no soul replaced by tech. Whever they were, gone forever. Understand now?" I think there would be far too many variables to consider in synthesis and would pick destroy.

I think Liara might pick destroy if romancing Shepard but I could see control happening too if not.

Legion I think would refuse tbh. His response to the catalyst would most likely be: "You offer to give us our future. We will achieve our own future."

Samara would pick destroy based off of this quote "Treat the reapers as you would any other enemy. Show them no mercy weakness or quarter."

I also think Thane would pick destroy as well.

It would serve you well to read on after the posts you quote. I addressed pretty much all of this already.

I'm aware. I'm just giving my two cents on the subject matter

[His Name was HYR!!]

Steelcan wrote...

Everyone is filled with NANIDES,

Except nanides don't work the way they you alledge they are working in Synthesis.

NANIDES cause indoctrination.  Indoctrination means no free wil.

Again.

And destroy only violates the Geth's consent, but seeing as how they were ready to die fighting anyways, no real difference.

But they're trusting you to save their race from extinction. Dying in the fight at the hands of the Reapers is not the same as being killed-off for everyone else, especially not when other options are on the table.

And synthesis destroys diversity, something Mirdin argues passionately for.

It doesn't destroy diversity. It destroys uniqueness (of synthetics). There's a difference!

Modifié par HYR 2.0, 21 octobre 2012 - 06:38 .

[fiendishchicken]

ATiBotka wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...



Mordin I think would pick either Destroy or Refuse mainly because his conversation about culture and the collectors in ME2 "No digestive system replaced by tech, No nervous system replace by tech, no soul replaced by tech. Whever they were, gone forever. Understand now?" I think there would be far too many variables to consider in synthesis and would pick destroy.

But that's not what happen in Synthesis.

. Every cell of every organism is infused with reaper technology.  Pretty similar to me

Aaaaaaand it's not Reaper tech.

Then what is it?

Shepard's "soul"? That's mystic, vitalism crap. 

That's **** that was used in the goddamned dark ages.

I don't know. But I don't think it's Reaper tech. Why would be?

It's reaper tech.

"the essence of who you are" I challenge anyone here to tell me that causes synthesis and make it scientific. 

The OP of this thread himself says that it's crap.

You can't. 

[Steelcan]

ATiBotka wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

ATiBotka wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...
Mordin I think would pick either Destroy or Refuse mainly because his conversation about culture and the collectors in ME2 "No digestive system replaced by tech, No nervous system replace by tech, no soul replaced by tech. Whever they were, gone forever. Understand now?" I think there would be far too many variables to consider in synthesis and would pick destroy.

But that's not what happen in Synthesis.

. Every cell of every organism is infused with reaper technology.  Pretty similar to me

Aaaaaaand it's not Reaper tech.

. It comes from the Citadel which is reaper made.  It makes organics onto organic/synthetic hybrids, reapers do that as well, and it is recommends by a guess who? A reaper

[ATiBotka]

fiendishchicken wrote...

It's reaper tech.

"the essence of who you are" I challenge anyone here to tell me that causes synthesis and make it scientific. 

The OP of this thread himself says that it's crap.

You can't. 

Vitalism is crap.

[DirtyPhoenix]

fiendishchicken wrote...

It's reaper tech.

"the essence of who you are" I challenge anyone here to tell me that causes synthesis and make it scientific. 

The OP of this thread himself says that it's crap.

You can't. 

It seems to be more poor-writing tech and big MAC tech than reaper tech.

[Steelcan]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...
Everyone is filled with NANIDES,

Except nanides don't work the way they you alledge they are working in Synthesis.

NANIDES cause indoctrination.  Indoctrination means no free wil.

And destroy only violates the Geth's consent, but seeing as how they were ready to die fighting anyways, no real difference.

But they're trusting you to save their race from extinction. Dying in the fight at the hands of the Reapers is not the same as being killed-off for everyone else, especially not when other options are on the table.

And synthesis destroys diversity, something Mirdin argues passionately for.

It doesn't destroy diversity. It destroys uniqueness (of synthetics). There's a difference!

. That's exactly how nanides work, replay Sanctuary, as for the geth, I would have killed them over Rannoch if they weren't useful.  And synthesis does destroy diversity "As the lines between organics and synthetics disappear". Seems robe anti diversity.

[ATiBotka]

pirate1802 wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

It's reaper tech.

"the essence of who you are" I challenge anyone here to tell me that causes synthesis and make it scientific. 

The OP of this thread himself says that it's crap.

You can't. 

It seems to be more poor-writing tech and big MAC tech than reaper tech.

It's SuperMac-tech.

[darthnick427]

fiendishchicken wrote...

mass perfection wrote...

Stopped=/=destroyed.Destroyers somehow get "stopped" mixed up with "destroy".EDI said that the Reapers need to be STOPPED and that she'd risk non functionality for that to happen.Traynor herself says she just wants the Reapers stopped,not destroyed.There are many other characters who say they want the Reapers stopped not destroyed.

I'm pretty sure they meant both stopped and destroyed. I want to STOP them by DESTROYING them. That's the only solution for me.

High five!

[Steelcan]

ATiBotka wrote...

fiendishchicken wrote...

It's reaper tech.

"the essence of who you are" I challenge anyone here to tell me that causes synthesis and make it scientific. 

The OP of this thread himself says that it's crap.

You can't. 

Vitalism is crap.

. Vitalism is a key component of synthesis