Ieldra2 wrote...
Wayning_Star wrote...
Ieldra2 wrote...
I have no idea what you're talking about. This is was about how we envision the post-Synthesis future. The relays are heavily damaged (see the relay husk in Destroy) as the result of using the Crucible in all three endings and the question was would they be rebuilt in a post-Synthesis future or would they be left behind as a relic of the age gone by as new and more elegant ways to travel between the starts are found.
Also, we see the Reapers rebuilding a relay in Control. Any automated repair systems have most likely been destroyed. Also, the Keepers are never said to exist on mass relays, just on the CIadel.
I would say, (after getting chewed 
, that the relays would be saved in any event, as they're consistent with the survival of the MEU. The main reason for picking synthesis.
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The evidence disproves your assertion. The choice which canonically saves the relay system is Control. In Synthesis, the fate of the relays is a complete unknown.
I'm deferring the hard work to the synthesis compendium to you, Ieldra2. I only constested the idea of ascenion as integral to it. The reaperships considered harvest as ascension, Saren considered 'molding' with the reaperships being acceptable, but that's not synthesis.
You're accepting the Reaper definition monopoly over the concept of ascension, and thus are buying into their propaganda if you say that. In the context discussed, "ascension" is any process of minds overcoming a significant structural limitation to acquire greater cognitive ability, simliar to the effects of a technological singularity on machine intelligence. Watch the Synthesis epilogue. What EDI says at its end, that's the path to an ascension. It is unknown what the results may be, but it's definitely a theme in Sythesis.
no, control saves nothing more,even if we buy into the clip denotation, and is dependant on mil strength and the condition of the crucible/quality of contruction. Shep becomes a reaper. Ideally, destroy would necessitate complete destruction of ALL reaper tech, as it's associated with life giving properties, otherwise humans would of had an Edi way before discovering the relays and the tech to utilize them. As the now trusted catalyst proclaims, the reapers will return as a product of the chaos. Nature taking it's course, from the Cat's perspective. As far as the relay destruction in synthesis, it never mattered to me,as the force of the extreme of synthesis precluded any concern for those, as transportation is less a priority, to me anyway.
The nature of synthesis in my view and often a view distorted by presumption of 'nature AS being a living entity, differentiating common knowledge from predisposed view. Mine is that that the function of synthesis is the tayloring of nature as a whole. Not ascending to some higher being,eventhough that seems like it's what happens. We literally tweek nature to synthesise it into another form, altered from what is to what will be with 'apparent' intellectual aspects of naturalized syntethic life. Even plantlife is altered to reflect it's NEW synthetic character,hense the circuits.(a clumsy way to project that in the slides, but thats game mechanics and user friendly representation.) So, in my view, synthesis actually, in changing it's base structure to include synthetic life along with organic life as if nature its self provided this option from it's beginnings. Kind of a cheat code for the natural order of things. In a way it's the opposite of transhumanism, as humanity is altered, but the very basis of transhumanism relies on that humans are augumented by technology, in sythesis, nature and techology both augumented by each other. Takes the concept of transhumanism out of the picture, as the bias is eliminated.
My new (head canon) problem with it all is that I've figured out that the catalyst is probably wrought from organics, instead of pure technology,as in computerized circuitry. The Levi used thralls to design and built the intelligence, shackled it through indoctrination and that eventually, as the intelligence grew(more powerful) over time, overcame its shackle and did the very same thing to it's creator,harvested them. The catalyst describes its self as an inorganic organic, to Shepard when asked if it were a machine/AI. A double jepordy question for sure.
In any event, that intelligence copies it's creators ways and means to an end, thus becoming,for the most part, the chaos it was designed to resolve. This all complicates the ideal of the catalyst, it's function and it's actual motives within the structure of the MEU and it's problems and resolution/solution. Might even be why the synthesis choice is provided, as we don't know who authored those choices...
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