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[Uncle Jo]

@Bill Casey,  eddieoctane and Karolus V


[/quote]Well gentlemen, about time to end the joke (it was originally adressed to Rif), I'm on your side and don't wanna troll this good thread. Apologies...

[Karolus_V]

Uncle Jo wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

*facepalm*

Look up the definition of indoctrinated...

Karolus_V wrote...

Indoctrination isnt a state of
yes or no. It can be gradual, so it can be, that the VI doesnt detect it
unless it has reached certain point.Maybe after all that time isnt
exactly in the best state. Or could be human physiology , being diferent
from the proteans, make sharder to detect a subtle indoctrination.
The rubbles..who knows well see.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/surprised.png[/smilie]

I did. That's why I'm telling this. And don't give the Object Rho in Arrival. What if we played the ME2 without it ? No way it happened, it's not canon. There is one attempt and it's on the Citadel when TIM try to indoctrinate you thanks to his new Reaper upgrades. He can also control Anderson. I don't need another evidence.

I think, Arrival is canon, even if you dont like it. If not, wtf are you doing in earth , in custody for blowing up the relay in the Batarian system >.>.

[TSA_383]

jsadalia wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...



The second code is this:

More binary, this time: 0010110100110001001100100011100000101110001101011011000001000110
This decodes to give -128.5°F

Interestingly, although this wasn't worked out at the time, there's a planet in the mass effect series called Aequitas, with a temperature that works out to -128.5°F and which is described as having famous iron canyons.

Mass Effect Wikia gives the surface temperature of Aequitas as -85C, which translates to -121F, not -128.5F.  A small difference in temperature, but not the sort of mistake you'd expect BioWare to make if this were significant.

Interesting, I hadn't checked that against the wiki, based it on a gameinformer article published during the leaks...

The only thing I can find for -89.1 is that it's the coldest temperature ever recorded on earth.

(This is the part where someone else finds something and I go to bed since it's 4am here and I have to be on a flight at 11 )

[eddieoctane]

balance5050 wrote...

http://www.forbes.co...ote-of-the-day/ 

What is this magic $20 DLC? From Ashes cost $10. The CE came with that $80 figure, but also included more guns, an art book, and From Ashes.

Conclusion: Peter Moore is an idiot who doesn;t even know what his products sell for.

[Elyiia]

Karolus_V wrote...

-128.6 isnt that the coldest temp. recorded on earth?

P.D:someone has to post a screenshot of Aethyas entry in mass effect 1.

Yes, it is. According to Wikipedia anyway.

[ChickenMan77]

TSA_383 wrote...

jsadalia wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...



The second code is this:

More binary, this time: 0010110100110001001100100011100000101110001101011011000001000110
This decodes to give -128.5°F

Interestingly, although this wasn't worked out at the time, there's a planet in the mass effect series called Aequitas, with a temperature that works out to -128.5°F and which is described as having famous iron canyons.

Mass Effect Wikia gives the surface temperature of Aequitas as -85C, which translates to -121F, not -128.5F.  A small difference in temperature, but not the sort of mistake you'd expect BioWare to make if this were significant.

Interesting, I hadn't checked that against the wiki, based it on a gameinformer article published during the leaks...

The only thing I can find for -89.1 is that it's the coldest temperature ever recorded on earth.

(This is the part where someone else finds something and I go to bed since it's 4am here and I have to be on a flight at 11 )

degrees also could refer to longitude an latitude coordinates...just sayin

Modifié par ChickenMan77, 21 mai 2012 - 03:05 .

[Icinix]

 Thanks for running with this - it didn't get much attention when I originally brought it up way back in the original IT thread.
Here is the original thread discussing the clues in 2010 - the planet was discovered when the clues were leaked but its taken probably longer than it should have for us to make connections.

http://social.biowar...3/index/5277848 

[unoriginalname1133]

[Activate cautious optimism]

[Elyiia]

Karolus_V wrote...


I think, Arrival is canon, even if you dont like it. If not, wtf are you doing in earth , in custody for blowing up the relay in the Batarian system >.>.

It can't be, if there is an alternative situation for it then it cannot be considered canon. Example, Tali surviving ME1 is canon, she can't die then. Tali surviving ME2 is not canon because she can die.

Situation 1: Shepard does it.
Situation 2: Alliance Marines do it.

You can use Arrival as an example of indoctrination but not as a source.

[TSA_383]

ChickenMan77 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

jsadalia wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...



The second code is this:

More binary, this time: 0010110100110001001100100011100000101110001101011011000001000110
This decodes to give -128.5°F

Interestingly, although this wasn't worked out at the time, there's a planet in the mass effect series called Aequitas, with a temperature that works out to -128.5°F and which is described as having famous iron canyons.

Mass Effect Wikia gives the surface temperature of Aequitas as -85C, which translates to -121F, not -128.5F.  A small difference in temperature, but not the sort of mistake you'd expect BioWare to make if this were significant.

Interesting, I hadn't checked that against the wiki, based it on a gameinformer article published during the leaks...

The only thing I can find for -89.1 is that it's the coldest temperature ever recorded on earth.

(This is the part where someone else finds something and I go to bed since it's 4am here and I have to be on a flight at 11 )

degrees also could refer to longitude an latitude coordinates...just sayin

Perhaps, but not with a big F on the end

[Khajiit Jzargo]

You guys are gasping for straws....

[Karolus_V]

Elyiia wrote...

Karolus_V wrote...


I think, Arrival is canon, even if you dont like it. If not, wtf are you doing in earth , in custody for blowing up the relay in the Batarian system >.>.

It can't be, if there is an alternative situation for it then it cannot be considered canon. Example, Tali surviving ME1 is canon, she can't die then. Tali surviving ME2 is not canon because she can die.

Situation 1: Shepard does it.
Situation 2: Alliance Marines do it.

You can use Arrival as an example of indoctrination but not as a source.

I was hoping someone who doesnt played arrival in his save would respond. So to know what is the reason you are in custody on earth.


P.D:I wasn't reading the temperature thing in wikipedia!

Modifié par Karolus_V, 21 mai 2012 - 03:07 .

[Elyiia]

Karolus_V wrote...

Elyiia wrote...

Karolus_V wrote...


I think, Arrival is canon, even if you dont like it. If not, wtf are you doing in earth , in custody for blowing up the relay in the Batarian system >.>.

It can't be, if there is an alternative situation for it then it cannot be considered canon. Example, Tali surviving ME1 is canon, she can't die then. Tali surviving ME2 is not canon because she can die.

Situation 1: Shepard does it.
Situation 2: Alliance Marines do it.

You can use Arrival as an example of indoctrination but not as a source.

I was hoping someone who doesnt played arrival in his save would respond. So to know what is the reason you are in custody on earth.

It's never actually mentioned, it just says "The sh*t you've done" however it's implied that it's because you're working with a known terrorist group.

[eddieoctane]

[quote]Uncle Jo wrote...

@Bill Casey,  eddieoctane and Karolus V


[/quote]Well gentlemen, about time to end the joke (it was originally adressed to Rif), I'm on your side and don't wanna troll this good thread. Apologies...
[/quote]

'Sall right. But your sarcasm didn't translate well across the interwebs.

[quote]Karolus_V wrote...

I think, Arrival is canon, even if you
dont like it. If not, wtf are you doing in earth , in custody for
blowing up the relay in the Batarian system >.>.

[/quote]

For
working with Cerberus. Apparently, when someone resurects you and you
make a bee-line for the Citadel, well, you're a dirty terrorist for
letting them bring you back. And when not given any option to ditch Cerberus and go back to the Alliance, you're still at fault.

[balance5050]

ChickenMan77 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

jsadalia wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...



The second code is this:

More binary, this time: 0010110100110001001100100011100000101110001101011011000001000110
This decodes to give -128.5°F

Interestingly, although this wasn't worked out at the time, there's a planet in the mass effect series called Aequitas, with a temperature that works out to -128.5°F and which is described as having famous iron canyons.

Mass Effect Wikia gives the surface temperature of Aequitas as -85C, which translates to -121F, not -128.5F.  A small difference in temperature, but not the sort of mistake you'd expect BioWare to make if this were significant.

Interesting, I hadn't checked that against the wiki, based it on a gameinformer article published during the leaks...

The only thing I can find for -89.1 is that it's the coldest temperature ever recorded on earth.

(This is the part where someone else finds something and I go to bed since it's 4am here and I have to be on a flight at 11 )

degrees also could refer to longitude an latitude coordinates...just sayin

I think what we need to remember is that the chain of clues ends in "red herring". I might just take this as Bioware giving us red herrings in their social networks (synthesis is the best ending from Mike Gamble, etc) and that we need to adhere to the clues found in the game, not PR mumbo jumbo.

That's my take right now at least.

[felipejiraya]

This is interesting but in the end just wishful thinking.

[Icinix]

Elyiia wrote...

Karolus_V wrote...


I think, Arrival is canon, even if you dont like it. If not, wtf are you doing in earth , in custody for blowing up the relay in the Batarian system >.>.

It can't be, if there is an alternative situation for it then it cannot be considered canon. Example, Tali surviving ME1 is canon, she can't die then. Tali surviving ME2 is not canon because she can die.

Situation 1: Shepard does it.
Situation 2: Alliance Marines do it.

You can use Arrival as an example of indoctrination but not as a source.

Yeah exactly. Arrival is canon. But Shepard being part of that scenario is not canon.

[Elyiia]

balance5050 wrote...

I think what we need to remember is that the chain of clues ends in "red herring". I might just take this as Bioware giving us red herrings in their social networks (synthesis is the best ending from Mike Gamble, etc) and that we need to adhere to the clues found in the game, not PR mumbo jumbo.

That's my take right now at least.

My feeling is that the red herring refers to the Catalyst plot, unless I'm misunderstanding it. The game is pointing us towards a device we need but we actually already have.

[jsadalia]

That lowest temperature was recorded at Lake Vostok. Vostok is a system in Mass Effect, with little going on except an ExoGeni mission in ME1. It's about thorian creepers, and has nothing to do with reapers or indoctrination that I can see.

Incorporating these codes into IT seems a stretch, to say the least.

[balance5050]

Icinix wrote...

Elyiia wrote...

Karolus_V wrote...


I think, Arrival is canon, even if you dont like it. If not, wtf are you doing in earth , in custody for blowing up the relay in the Batarian system >.>.

It can't be, if there is an alternative situation for it then it cannot be considered canon. Example, Tali surviving ME1 is canon, she can't die then. Tali surviving ME2 is not canon because she can die.

Situation 1: Shepard does it.
Situation 2: Alliance Marines do it.

You can use Arrival as an example of indoctrination but not as a source.

Yeah exactly. Arrival is canon. But Shepard being part of that scenario is not canon.

It was for me, there is no true canon.

[Elyiia]

jsadalia wrote...

That lowest temperature was recorded at Lake Vostok. Vostok is a system in Mass Effect, with little going on except an ExoGeni mission in ME1. It's about thorian creepers, and has nothing to do with reapers or indoctrination that I can see.

Incorporating these codes into IT seems a stretch, to say the least.

Under trivia: A single empty Thorian 'pod', similar to the one Shiala was released from, can be found in a corner of the ExoGeni facility.

Conclusion, Shepard isn't the actual hero of Mass Effect. The person in the pod is.

[Icinix]

balance5050 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Elyiia wrote...

Karolus_V wrote...


I think, Arrival is canon, even if you dont like it. If not, wtf are you doing in earth , in custody for blowing up the relay in the Batarian system >.>.

It can't be, if there is an alternative situation for it then it cannot be considered canon. Example, Tali surviving ME1 is canon, she can't die then. Tali surviving ME2 is not canon because she can die.

Situation 1: Shepard does it.
Situation 2: Alliance Marines do it.

You can use Arrival as an example of indoctrination but not as a source.

Yeah exactly. Arrival is canon. But Shepard being part of that scenario is not canon.

It was for me, there is no true canon.

Except Arrival - that definitely happened no matter if you import a Shepard or start new. Therefore - the Arrival even happened in every single persons playthrough - but it can't be the reason for why Shepard is indoctrinated, because not everyones Shepard was there for it.

[balance5050]

Icinix wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Elyiia wrote...

Karolus_V wrote...


I think, Arrival is canon, even if you dont like it. If not, wtf are you doing in earth , in custody for blowing up the relay in the Batarian system >.>.

It can't be, if there is an alternative situation for it then it cannot be considered canon. Example, Tali surviving ME1 is canon, she can't die then. Tali surviving ME2 is not canon because she can die.

Situation 1: Shepard does it.
Situation 2: Alliance Marines do it.

You can use Arrival as an example of indoctrination but not as a source.

Yeah exactly. Arrival is canon. But Shepard being part of that scenario is not canon.

It was for me, there is no true canon.

Except Arrival - that definitely happened no matter if you import a Shepard or start new. Therefore - the Arrival even happened in every single persons playthrough - but it can't be the reason for why Shepard is indoctrinated, because not everyones Shepard was there for it.

?

Not everyone hired Wrex in ME1, he's still part of MY game and so is "The Arrival" because MY Shepard DID IT ALL. MY Shepard is a BAD ASS. 

[Icinix]

balance5050 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Elyiia wrote...

Karolus_V wrote...


I think, Arrival is canon, even if you dont like it. If not, wtf are you doing in earth , in custody for blowing up the relay in the Batarian system >.>.

It can't be, if there is an alternative situation for it then it cannot be considered canon. Example, Tali surviving ME1 is canon, she can't die then. Tali surviving ME2 is not canon because she can die.

Situation 1: Shepard does it.
Situation 2: Alliance Marines do it.

You can use Arrival as an example of indoctrination but not as a source.

Yeah exactly. Arrival is canon. But Shepard being part of that scenario is not canon.

It was for me, there is no true canon.

Except Arrival - that definitely happened no matter if you import a Shepard or start new. Therefore - the Arrival even happened in every single persons playthrough - but it can't be the reason for why Shepard is indoctrinated, because not everyones Shepard was there for it.

?

Not everyone hired Wrex in ME1, he's still part of MY game and so is "The Arrival" because MY Shepard DID IT ALL. MY Shepard is a BAD ASS. 

..er.... never said it wasn't part of your game? Saying that if Shepard is indoctrinated - the reason can't be arrival because not every Shepard was at Arrival - it needs to be a universal thing in everyones ME3.

[Reofeir]

Icinix wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Elyiia wrote...

Karolus_V wrote...


I think, Arrival is canon, even if you dont like it. If not, wtf are you doing in earth , in custody for blowing up the relay in the Batarian system >.>.

It can't be, if there is an alternative situation for it then it cannot be considered canon. Example, Tali surviving ME1 is canon, she can't die then. Tali surviving ME2 is not canon because she can die.

Situation 1: Shepard does it.
Situation 2: Alliance Marines do it.

You can use Arrival as an example of indoctrination but not as a source.

Yeah exactly. Arrival is canon. But Shepard being part of that scenario is not canon.

It was for me, there is no true canon.

Except Arrival - that definitely happened no matter if you import a Shepard or start new. Therefore - the Arrival even happened in every single persons playthrough - but it can't be the reason for why Shepard is indoctrinated, because not everyones Shepard was there for it.

Yes, this. For examples from canon to be used as examples for IT...it must of have happend in EVERY playthrough. Not just yours, but Everyone's. So DLC missions do not count ussualy. Anything that has a alternative does not count.