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[PsyrenY]

You clearly "end the Reaper threat" in all endings. IT is false.

Modifié par Optimystic_X, 21 mai 2012 - 03:19 .

[LucasShark]

Bigdoser wrote...

T1l wrote...

I'm sure someone from Bioware basically let the cat out of the bag and stated that the Indoctrination Theroy was exactly that, a theroy and nothing more. The thing that really pains me about the Indoctrination Theroy is that it makes the most devoted fans of the series in to schitzophrenics who hear and see things which aren't actually there because the ending was, in fact, THAT bad.

Yup after viewing the final hours app and the so called post by weekes the ending is literal. The only reason why bioware has not out right said its not true is because it keeps a portion of the fanbase focused on something else other than bioware. 

Exactly: it's in their interest to keep IT going as long as possible.  That way an additional sixth or so of the pissed off 90 percent of buyers occupies the other lot with debunking their crap and not on throwing brick-letters at bioware buildings.

[Oni Changas]

LucasShark wrote...

Okay: Let's say everything the IT theorists are spouting is right: their little theory is correct and I'm stupid, and my mother was a ****, and everything else they've told me is correct.  And I'm being VERY generous here considering the last piece of "evidence" I saw was a bloke realizing that the citadel tower chamber kind of sort of looks like a reaper if you squint and have pink-eye.

Now here's the problem I want them all to admit to right now: IT IS NOT, repeat IS NOT an ending.

Should IT be correct, and you "win" by choosing destroy the reapers, and Shepard wakes up: where do we wake up?  We are plonked back onto Earth, MID-BATTLE no less, with a no doubt wounded team and reaprs everywhere.  This isn't a situation that five minuts, or een 10 minutes of cutscenes or quick time events could fix.  This is still a story written into a hole.

This will lead to one of two things: more post-credits DLC content, which will likely be paid for, or a new game entirely.  This means Bioware lied, fundamentally in nearly all their promo material and all the raming that went into ME3.  It also means, that if these items are not free, I will not get them, and even then: they will have to be delivered to my door, with chocolates and appologies before I purchase another Bioware product ever again.

IT actually LEADS to a conclusive, logical, and sensical ending. So apparently...

Indoctrination Theory.













--> your head.

[Zany Jedi]

LucasShark wrote...

Zany Jedi wrote...

...wait what? I was aware that ITers since the beginning have been stating that IT isn't an ending. What's all this fuss about?

Have you ever been on the recieving end of a pro-IT rant?  No didn't think so.

Way to be presumptuous.

[ZerebusPrime]

LucasShark wrote...


... that is... so stupid...  THt would be the worst marketing decision ever made by a human being.

Nonsense.

But never underestimate how badly a good idea can be implemented or how wrong it can go, eh?

[RADIUMEYEZ]

[LucasShark]

Zany Jedi wrote...

LucasShark wrote...

Zany Jedi wrote...

...wait what? I was aware that ITers since the beginning have been stating that IT isn't an ending. What's all this fuss about?

Have you ever been on the recieving end of a pro-IT rant?  No didn't think so.

Way to be presumptuous.

What?  I've had people practically claim it will go back and fix the Mako in ME1, whilst calling me stupid for not buying that the presence of a red fish in your aquarium, and the existence of the phrase "red herring" is conclusive evidence for the theory.

[Elyiia]

Optimystic_X wrote...



You clearly "end the Reaper threat" in all endings. IT is false.

Just wait, someone will claim it's throw away text.

[PsyrenY]

OniTYME wrote...
IT actually LEADS to a conclusive, logical, and sensical ending. So apparently...

Indoctrination Theory.













--> your head.

How is "no ending" a "conclusive ending?" 

No wait, don't bother.

[Zardoc]

[RADIUMEYEZ]

Optimystic_X wrote...

OniTYME wrote...
IT actually LEADS to a conclusive, logical, and sensical ending. So apparently...

Indoctrination Theory.













--> your head.

How is "no ending" a "conclusive ending?" 

No wait, don't bother.

I fail to see how you concluded that there is no ending with IT.

[Zany Jedi]

LucasShark wrote...

Zany Jedi wrote...

LucasShark wrote...

Zany Jedi wrote...

...wait what? I was aware that ITers since the beginning have been stating that IT isn't an ending. What's all this fuss about?

Have you ever been on the recieving end of a pro-IT rant?  No didn't think so.

Way to be presumptuous.

What?  I've had people practically claim it will go back and fix the Mako in ME1, whilst calling me stupid for not buying that the presence of a red fish in your aquarium, and the existence of the phrase "red herring" is conclusive evidence for the theory.

Presumptuous for saying I've never been on the receiving end of a pro-IT rant. Also what is the point of this thread? It seems you posted just to pick a fight with ITers, is there really a good point to this?

[jla0644]

dreman9999 wrote...

And the common answer from all pro-ITers is EC will add that ending... Like it's doing now.

And what do they say when confronted with the information that the EC was never planned, that it was only announced after the rage surrounding the ending, that Bioware never intended to add anything to the ending?

The EC is an olive branch Bioware is praying will satifsy people. It is not a something they planned all along to give us the real ending.

[Had-to-say]

Why shipwreck main characters at the end of a trilogy with no intention of explaining why? What is the purpose? It seems to me the player has lost some time. How long was Shepard out?

[Asharad Hett]

LucasShark wrote...

Now here's the problem I want them all to admit to right now: IT IS NOT, repeat IS NOT an ending.

I agree.  IT is not an ending.   But the litteral version isn't an ending either.  If you go literal, you get:

Synthesis:  Reapers still exist, Shep dies.  What happens to the rest of the galaxy is unknown.
Control:  Reapers still exist.  Shep dies.  What happens to the rest of the galaxy is unknown.
Destroy:  Reapers die.  Shep lives/dies, not sure.  What happens to the rest of the galaxy is unknown.

No matter how you spin things, Bioware didn't finish the game.

[jijeebo]

 I hope this works because my success rate with pictures hasn't been great today... 0% to be precise. xD

 

EDIT: WOOP 

Modifié par jijeebo, 21 mai 2012 - 03:29 .

[RADIUMEYEZ]

[LucasShark]

RADIUMEYEZ wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

OniTYME wrote...
IT actually LEADS to a conclusive, logical, and sensical ending. So apparently...

Indoctrination Theory.













--> your head.

How is "no ending" a "conclusive ending?" 

No wait, don't bother.

I fail to see how you concluded that there is no ending with IT.

Did you even read the original post?

[Dikjuh]

LucasShark wrote...

Now here's the problem I want them all to admit to right now: IT IS NOT, repeat IS NOT an ending.

Should IT be correct, and you "win" by choosing destroy the reapers, and Shepard wakes up: where do we wake up?  We are plonked back onto Earth, MID-BATTLE no less, with a no doubt wounded team and reaprs everywhere.  This isn't a situation that five minuts, or een 10 minutes of cutscenes or quick time events could fix.  This is still a story written into a hole.

Well, for arguments sake, let's assume the theory is true.

If choosing destroy would break Shepard free from an indoctrination attempt by Harbinger, perhaps the same kind of thing happens to him as what happened to Sovereign when Shepard killed Saren. The link get's corrupted (or however it is called) and his shields fail for a brief moment. Allowing allied forces to take him out.

This in turn could cause the other reapers to get confused (if we assume they are a collective mind of individual nations and that he was really the leader) giving the alliance fleet another window of opportunity to strike (and possibly even use their thanix canons?).

Modifié par Dikjuh, 21 mai 2012 - 03:31 .

[RADIUMEYEZ]

LucasShark wrote...

RADIUMEYEZ wrote...

Optimystic_X wrote...

OniTYME wrote...
IT actually LEADS to a conclusive, logical, and sensical ending. So apparently...

Indoctrination Theory.













--> your head.

How is "no ending" a "conclusive ending?" 

No wait, don't bother.

I fail to see how you concluded that there is no ending with IT.

Did you even read the original post?

No was I suppose to?

[PsyrenY]

RADIUMEYEZ wrote...

No was I suppose to?

It helps to know what a thread is about before posting in it, yes.

[Elyiia]

Asharad Hett wrote...

LucasShark wrote...

Now here's the problem I want them all to admit to right now: IT IS NOT, repeat IS NOT an ending.

I agree.  IT is not an ending.   But the litteral version isn't an ending either.  If you go literal, you get:

Synthesis:  Reapers still exist, Shep dies.  What happens to the rest of the galaxy is unknown.
Control:  Reapers still exist.  Shep dies.  What happens to the rest of the galaxy is unknown.
Destroy:  Reapers die.  Shep lives/dies, not sure.  What happens to the rest of the galaxy is unknown.

No matter how you spin things, Bioware didn't finish the game.

Not entirely true, if you take the ending at face value the Reaper threat is defeated in all three choices. Synthesis: The Reapers have no reason to reap. Control: Under the control of Shepard. Destroy: Reapers destroyed.

All three are an ending to the series by ending the Reaper threat.

[RADIUMEYEZ]

Optimystic_X wrote...

RADIUMEYEZ wrote...

No was I suppose to?

It helps to know what a thread is about before posting in it, yes.

You mean this isn't a Spiderman thread?

[jijeebo]

RADIUMEYEZ wrote...

LucasShark wrote...


Did you even read the original post?

No was I suppose to?

 

[xsdob]

I feel nothing for the IT, neither hate or love but a sense of knowing of its existence. The It theorist are dedicated, that is what they are, they believe and try too hard to make others believe.

Neutral.