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[Yajuu Omoi]

Drummernate wrote...

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

SOO much this...

Each different race and class is SUPPOSED to have their own advantages over wach other, krogans, have the duabitity and melee, turians have accuracy, batarians have massive amounts of extra ammo and stunlocks, geth are quite literally "hunters" the find and kill, but if they are found they can quickly get killed, EVEN if you spec for max health and shields.

No class needs a nerf, some may need tweeking...but NOT a nerf.

Yeah I agree some might need some re-balancing but only a little bit.

10% fire rate instead of 15% would not be too harsh IF they HAD to nerf something from Hunter Mode.

To be honest, i don't even notice the fire rate increase...i use the GPR.
If they dropped the fire rate bonus by...10% but increased the vision range, it'd be a better balance, that way at max spec you could rival the range that a prime can see AND target you at.

Modifié par Yajuu Omoi, 22 mai 2012 - 03:27 .

[IRON CD]

Please don't touch Geth Melee/Cloak/Proximity Mine.
You can take away some of the Hunter Mode, but please don't hurt any of the aforementioned three.

I love my GI Melee Build.

[Lucius Aelius]

I wouldn't say my GI is over powered, but I use a Disciple and Carnifex, without any points in proxy mine (fitness maxed out for health/shields, TC +90% dam./recharge/bonus power, HM acc./RoF/speed and vision), so I suppose I'm not exactly piling on the damage with my build, but I do know I think HM is perfect as is on both Geth and shouldn't be touched. If anything should be nerfed on the Geth I'd say it's the proxy mine just because I've always done so well without it, if having it is anything near as essential as people insist, maybe the character could use some adjustment there, but don't punish people who aren't spec'd to be overpowered, it's not HM which makes the Geth OP, heck without the HM exactly as is the Geth wouldn't be worth using at all.

[defleshing]

this is a terrible idea op -1 for you. i will agree gi is the best character in the game however i see no reason to ever nerf anything, ever.

Modifié par defleshing, 22 mai 2012 - 04:35 .

[Tzarakiel]

The way i use the GI it is not overpowered. I prefer to stalk prey for up to 10 seconds to get THE perfect headshot every time only to get it snagged right before i press the trigger. Besides the GI is useless in close range against multiple elite enemies without a shotgun.

Modifié par Tzarakiel, 22 mai 2012 - 04:31 .

[defleshing]

Tzarakiel wrote...

The way i use the GI it is not overpowered. I prefer to stalk prey for up to 10 seconds to get THE perfect headshot every time only to get it snagged right before i press the trigger. Besides the GI is useless in close range against multiple elite enemies.

that last sentence made my day lol. i can't even describe how many levels of wrong that is.

[Lucius Aelius]

That's why without a shotgun I always keep my distance.

And one addendum, HM visual effects (blur, messed up border thing) are NOT included in things about HM that are perfect as are, and indeed those aspects of both Geth are on thing which unquestionably need fixing.



Edit: Typo

Modifié par Lucius Aelius, 22 mai 2012 - 04:39 .

[Drummernate]

Tzarakiel wrote...

The way i use the GI it is not overpowered. I prefer to stalk prey for up to 10 seconds to get THE perfect headshot every time only to get it snagged right before i press the trigger. Besides the GI is useless in close range against multiple elite enemies without a shotgun.

You are totally doing it wrong! 

I can kill an Atlas alone on Gold in less than 15--20 seconds using only melee...

Modifié par Drummernate, 22 mai 2012 - 04:37 .

[Tzarakiel]

Yes but I suck at taking cover and I prefer using snper rifles, but as i dont have either of the widows or the javelin i cant deal heavy dammage to an enemy without a head to shoot. And i acually dont like the geth meelee attack it has gotten me killed more times than not.

Modifié par Tzarakiel, 22 mai 2012 - 04:49 .

[Tzarakiel]

Besides a shotgun doesnt give me the satisfaction of headshotting cloaked geth hunters from 30 m

Modifié par Tzarakiel, 22 mai 2012 - 04:52 .

[Mindlog]

I play a lot of Geth Infiltrator and I agree with what many others have said. Being squishy doesn't phase a GI in the slightest. With Vision and Cloak a GI can almost always stay out of trouble.

Before Resurgence I thought my SI was basically invincible. An SI can easily cloak and recharge shields. With a GI it's even easier to know when to cloak and kill absolutely everything.

[ArtGerhardt]

A Phantom on gold will kill your GI in three or less shots, and that's with hunter mode off.  You're basically a glass cannon.

Without a team mate with high shields to deterr enemy fire, you are at a high risk of getting overpowered by phantoms and get rocket troopers.

[Drummernate]

Tzarakiel wrote...

Besides a shotgun doesnt give me the satisfaction of headshotting cloaked geth hunters from 30 m

Use the Hunter Mode accuracy boost and a smart choke!

Shotguns become snipers that ignore shield gates.

(Average easy headshot range on the Eviscerator is like.... 40m, Claymore is about 30-40m)

[firepixiedarien]

I run a GI.

And I die.

Alot.

[Immortal Strife]

This thread is hilarious, op can't stand getting out scored over and over by Geth infiltrators so he calls out other noobs to join his quest to nerf. They kill everything too fast, oh my god they can see through walls, they get a damage boost on the GPS which was already the most op gun in the game, and they can cloak-nerf, nerf at once. 

Mass Effect multiplayer is a cooperative game mode where you fight three faction played on a few maps, over and over. If you have not figured out how to utterly dominate the AI please quit, or get better, but don't cry all over the forums about it's not fair his character is too good, I can't compete.

The fact is you can trash gold with any class and character because the AI is not intuitive or spontaneous. They function off of set rules and patters. If the computer bots kills you, it's your fault-the AI can't out skill you.

If you don't want to play with certain characters or weapons because you believe they are over powered and make the game too easy then don't use them, but, you sure as hell should not tell others how, who, and what, to use in their pursuit for fun against computer bots.




P.S. It's not like you where fighting and all of a sudden your opponent ARMOR LOCKED your rocket right back into your face-now that is op.

Modifié par Immortal Strife, 22 mai 2012 - 05:47 .

[Stardusk]

Sp3c7eR wrote...

Duh... what a lame thread.


I can outscore any GI with AA vs Cerberus, AA/Turian Sentinel vs Reapers and Kroguard vs Geth. 100% of the time. Why don't you try nerfing them too, hmm?

You can outscore anyone with anything 100% of the time. That makes your point here irrelevant.

.000001% of the community can replicate what you do and you KNOW that! so honestly, get real about this.

[Stardusk]

Kronner wrote...

Sp3c7eR wrote...

Duh... what a lame thread.


I can outscore any GI with AA vs Cerberus, AA/Turian Sentinel vs Reapers and Kroguard vs Geth. 100% of the time. Why don't you try nerfing them too, hmm?

Pretty much. Spamming powers is ok, but people wanna nerf one of the very few dynamic classes that do not refill shields every 3 seconds. OMG

Stardusk wrote...

This is only partly true. Your score is always highest with the Claymore GI. Always.

 

Score is totally irrelevant. You know that very well. It's like saying Talon always outscores Wraith. Always. NERF.
This logic is ridiculous.

astheoceansblue wrote...

Not with Gi, no. As I said, we can see dozens and dozens of players showing off scores of 200k with Gi, and I can guarantee most of them couldn't do the same or anywhere near with other clases.

Si is not overdone, I very rarely see an Si outscore our team by the super amounts Gis almost always do.

 

There is no way in hell anyone scores 200k while playing with good teammates. They'd have to really suck to make it possible.

Score is only partly irrelevant. You said it yourself, when you go GI and the rest of us are Krogan Soldiers or whatever, we are just meat shields so you can kill everything.

[Distilled Poison]

Ok, I will agree that thd GI should be re-evaluated, after a few things are addressed first.

1- The game bugs
2- The character bugs
3- The weapon bugs
4- New enemy factions
5- Bottom tier characters fixed to not be god awful.
6- New objectives
7- Bottom tier weapons buffed
8- Geth fixed to not be such a "camp or die" faction
9- All of the above without adding NEW bugs
10- NOW we can consider nerfs.

Nerfs won't ever make the game more fun. It fixes nothing.

[FreeshootXiggy]

Scoreboard: The elitist way of saying I'm better than you.

OP: The whiner's way of trying to get something nerfed so their egos aren't bruised by not getting high score of the game. What's next after GI somehow gets a nerf, we going to say hurricane turians are too good nerf them?

[january42]

Distilled Poison wrote...

Ok, I will agree that thd GI should be re-evaluated, after a few things are addressed first.

1- The game bugs
2- The character bugs
3- The weapon bugs
4- New enemy factions
5- Bottom tier characters fixed to not be god awful.
6- New objectives
7- Bottom tier weapons buffed
8- Geth fixed to not be such a "camp or die" faction
9- All of the above without adding NEW bugs
10- NOW we can consider nerfs.

Nerfs won't ever make the game more fun. It fixes nothing.

Agree here.  classes that can't pull their weight bother me much more than overpowered ones.

Overpowered chars ==> Game WON! Got ma credits!
Underpwered chars===> Game lost. booo...

Guess which one bothers me more.

Modifié par january42, 22 mai 2012 - 06:55 .

[Panther_73]

I like the GI very much and I don't want it to be changed. Next your taking the GE under fire and were does it end ? Maybe they should alter the weak characters a bit, but please let my GI be, as it is now !

Modifié par Panther_73, 22 mai 2012 - 07:10 .

[Kronner]

Stardusk wrote...

Score is only partly irrelevant. You said it yourself, when you go GI and the rest of us are Krogan Soldiers or whatever, we are just meat shields so you can kill everything.

That's called teamwork. The same happens with any Sniper Infiltrator. Or if you run with Talon/Hurricane and rest of the team is using Wraith, Mattock etc.

Even your latest GE + Saber build. Spam turret, take cover, shoot through cover. How is that not OP? GI is much more dynamic and risky to play. To me it sounds like the nerf-callers can't handle that well played GI outscores them easily. Gotta love e-peeners.

Just my opinion anyway.

Modifié par Kronner, 22 mai 2012 - 07:11 .

[Mindlog]

I don't understand why certain people resort to snide comments without addressing the OP at all. We can discuss these things without using words liked 'elitist' and 'whiners.'

There's no malice being directed towards players who enjoy using the Geth Infiltrator. The OP admitted to being a fan of the class! I have also used it frequently. The question is simply how well it compliments the game we're playing now. Is there a threat that this class could become as ubiquitous as White-Geth-Gold? I don't believe we're anywhere near that extreme, but I do see a lot of Geth these days.

No one is looking for an underpowered Geth Infiltrator. This isn't some slippery nerf slope.

[Stardusk]

Kronner wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Score is only partly irrelevant. You said it yourself, when you go GI and the rest of us are Krogan Soldiers or whatever, we are just meat shields so you can kill everything.

That's called teamwork. The same happens with any Sniper Infiltrator. Or if you run with Talon/Hurricane and rest of the team is using Wraith, Mattock etc.

Even your latest GE + Saber build. Spam turret, take cover, shoot through cover. How is that not OP? GI is much more dynamic and risky to play. To me it sounds like the nerf-callers can't handle that well played GI outscores them easily. Gotta love e-peeners.

Just my opinion anyway.

I am not calling for a nerf. And the only reason I favour the GE is that it has less survivability than the GI, plus I like the flame thrower. I should just stop getting involved in these Infiltrator threads. I've stopped playing them.

[Stardusk]

Kronner wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Score is only partly irrelevant. You said it yourself, when you go GI and the rest of us are Krogan Soldiers or whatever, we are just meat shields so you can kill everything.

That's called teamwork. The same happens with any Sniper Infiltrator. Or if you run with Talon/Hurricane and rest of the team is using Wraith, Mattock etc.

Even your latest GE + Saber build. Spam turret, take cover, shoot through cover. How is that not OP? GI is much more dynamic and risky to play. To me it sounds like the nerf-callers can't handle that well played GI outscores them easily. Gotta love e-peeners.

Just my opinion anyway.

And I disagree about the risks. Cloak effectively gets rid of those.