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[Pockydon]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

Saren was on the cover of ME1 and was very important. His appearnece was astonishing in ME3. In fact, he didn't appear at all!

Are you retarded? He's dead!

[SNascimento]

I would much rather have her in Kai Leng's place.
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She would make a much better adversary.

[Shajar]

 

SNascimento wrote...

I would much rather have her in Kai Leng's place.
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She would make a much better adversary.

 

Would be good role if you dont destroy that Collector base, when you do she starts ****ing now for TIM instead of Shep

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Girsheliz wrote...

I agree Garrus and Tali are mostly fan service, especially Tali

And Miranda isn't? lol

This made me lol 

Go go horny teenager boys 

Modifié par Shajar, 21 mai 2012 - 07:56 .

[Girsheliz]

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Modifié par Girsheliz, 22 mai 2012 - 04:14 .

[Daddy555]

she died in my me2 along with jacop, zaheed, legion, grunt, garrus, thane , tali, jack and mordin.... i know im the best commander EVER

[Pockydon]

SNascimento wrote...

I would much rather have her in Kai Leng's place.
.
She would make a much better adversary.

That might be quite interesting, if she became indoctrinated like TIM. One of my complaints with the series was that no one close to you ever got indoctrinated, so I think this would be a pretty good idea.

[CuseGirl]

Critchley2010 wrote...

So this question may have been somewhat buried under the furore over the ending, but I thought that sidelining Miranda was astonishing. She was a principle character in ME2, she was one of the more famous voice actors, she was on the cover of ME2, she's even still on the forum background. Not to mention, she was also an awesome squadmate.

Why the sideline? I'd like to have been able to choose between her and Ashley (or Kaiden) as a squadmember because Ashley is dull!

lack of "resources" (time, money to record, time to record her dialogue) and generally poor writing. It's especially disturbing that her character is such a non-factor while Cerberus is elevated to near God-mode status and she makes no comment on it.

Other issues with Miranda: no banter/dialogue/argument between Ashley and Miranda if you bring Ashley to Sanctuary, not having Miranda at Cronos Station, and no mention of Miranda's idealistic view of a possible Human STG to juxtapose with the current Cerberus iteration.....

Regardless of resources, not having Miranda at Cronos is one of the glaring writing/story omissions. The first scene of ME-2 starts with a picture of the sun and a conversation between her and TiM in that room. To not come full circle with that moment available is really lame. And it's exacerbated by TiM's appearance in the ending. The Cerberus angle should have been completed with both Kai Leng and TiM kicking the bucket at Cronos.

Modifié par CuseGirl, 21 mai 2012 - 08:16 .

[Critchley2010]

CuseGirl wrote...

Critchley2010 wrote...

So this question may have been somewhat buried under the furore over the ending, but I thought that sidelining Miranda was astonishing. She was a principle character in ME2, she was one of the more famous voice actors, she was on the cover of ME2, she's even still on the forum background. Not to mention, she was also an awesome squadmate.

Why the sideline? I'd like to have been able to choose between her and Ashley (or Kaiden) as a squadmember because Ashley is dull!

lack of "resources" (time, money to record, time to record her dialogue) and generally poor writing. It's especially disturbing that her character is such a non-factor while Cerberus is elevated to near God-mode status and she makes no comment on it.

Other issues with Miranda: no banter/dialogue/argument between Ashley and Miranda if you bring Ashley to Sanctuary, not having Miranda at Cronos Station, and no mention of Miranda's idealistic view of a possible Human STG to juxtapose with the current Cerberus iteration.....

Regardless of resources, not having Miranda at Cronos is one of the glaring writing/story omissions. The first scene of ME-2 starts with a picture of the sun and a conversation between her and TiM in that room. To not come full circle with that moment available is really lame. And it's exacerbated by TiM's appearance in the ending. The Cerberus angle should have been completed with both Kai Leng and TiM kicking the bucket at Cronos.

I really, REALLY hope someone from BW sees this. I know it's a bit late now to add that kind of stuff, but hopefully it might give them a good idea of what was missing from the release, and add something to compensate. 

[Shajar]

jreezy wrote...

Why do people always go straight to teenage boys when talking about males being horny?

That was rather joke, but you know. Boys teenage world is mostly about bit ****** and good curves, arent they? 
Same happened with Liara when ME1 first came, boys were with open mouths and drool over her. Nothing wrong in that, it just human nature.

[Girsheliz]

jreezy wrote...

Girsheliz wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Girsheliz wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Girsheliz wrote...

so you meant Miranda is fanservice for her great personality  and  Asari are fanservice for their astonishing culture?

No, but I fail to see what that has to do with anything. Just because they were made specifically to appeal to people on a sexual basis (which is difficult to deny) doesn't mean I assume that's the only reason why anybody likes them. I like EDI despite the fact that her robot body was designed for similar reasons, after all.

If they were made specifically for only sex appeal, devs wouldn't bother to flesh them out.
if it doesn't mean you assume that's the only reason people like them, why call them fanservice? oh you don't like Asari, and why leave EDI out? oh you like her so...                         and thats what I am stressing,  you use word "fanservice"  to spite others.  

Garrus and Tali are in my 3 most favorites,  but still know they are fanservice. 

:huh:"You use the word 'fanservice' to spite others". What? Where's this "spite" you speak of?

Girsheliz wrote...

I agree Garrus and Tali are mostly fan service, especially Tali
Cthulhu42 
wrote...

And Miranda isn't? lol

also
I meant her character in general. It was created, like the enitre asari race, for fanservice purposes.


He didn't really like his favorites called fanservice...

That's not the impression he's giving off at all. Even if he actually did dislike his favorite characters being called "fan service" that doesn't mean he's spiteful. You're using the term "spite" incorrectly here.

then, sorry if my English failed me critically and or I misunderstood something, still why would he bring Asari up?
nah let's just leave it there...

[Girsheliz]

Shajar wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Why do people always go straight to teenage boys when talking about males being horny?

That was rather joke, but you know. Boys teenage world is mostly about bit ****** and good curves, arent they? 
Same happened with Liara when ME1 first came, boys were with open mouths and drool over her. Nothing wrong in that, it just human nature.

actually Liara wasn't that sexy in ME 1, her ****** were rather small yes ,  but that might be coz  every character has same random body model,  except  Saren and Benezia.

there's been lots of drooling over other characters,  like Tali with her big butt and hips, Miranda's dat ass  in ME 2 and so on. 

Modifié par Girsheliz, 21 mai 2012 - 09:23 .

[MatCat]

I was disappointed with Miranda's treatment in ME3. I'll confess that when ME1 came out I hadn't even thought of playing it. My brother bought it and started, but it usually takes him a year to get through a whole game of donkey kong, so I borrowed it from him, (he still hasn't played all the way through ME1), anyway I enjoyed it, did I think it was the greatest game I had ever played? No, but it was good all the same. Ash was my LI in 1, I just never felt like Liara was a good match, I didn't even have Liara in the squad until near the end of the game anyway. I actually didn't play ME2 until about a year after it came out, I saw it on sale for twenty bucks one day and thought, hey, ME1 was pretty good, I guess I'll give it a try. To this day, it's my favorite game of all time. While playing through 2 the first time, I was staying true to Ash until we met up on Horizon and she decided she didn't want anything to do with me anymore. After that it was all Miranda. Aside from Garrus and Tali, Miranda had more face time than any squadmates through the first two games, I would say even moreso than Tali just due to the fact that I usually do Tali's recruitment last anyway. I'm in no way bashing Liara, she's not a bad squadmate, and others have reasons to romance her, but in my playthroughs she's a secondary character who doesn't come in until halfway through ME1. Then in ME2 there wasn't much at all until LOTSB, which made me feel like everyone felt about Liara the same as I did after 1. Miranda on the other hand is in ME2 from square one and imo, is probably the most important character aside from Shepherd through that game. Not only Miranda, but every ME2 character got the shaft in 3. I understand that some might not have made it through the suicide mission, but come on, you actually have to try to kill Miranda off during it. After playing through the first two games, I would have thought your ME2 squad would have come back before the ME1 guys would have, I mean after the loyalty missions that squad would have followed you through the gates of hell and they did, you would think that someone would have had to throw them off the Normandy to get rid of them.

[Daniel_N7]

Don't worry people. The Miranda DLC will be available this Autumn for 800 Microsoft points.

[MatCat]

I think we're bummed because we need a DLC in the first place, when they should have taken care of it during the first playthrough.

[Neizd]

Miranda and every squadmate from ME2 should be just like Anderson in ME3. You have him on the team at the start of the game.

[AlanC9]

CuseGirl wrote...
Other issues with Miranda: no banter/dialogue/argument between Ashley and Miranda if you bring Ashley to Sanctuary,

This one kind of surprises me. Why would you expect them to have much to say to each other? They've never met unless you brought Miranda to Horizon in ME2.

[Mykel54]

I know this has little to do with the topic, but i think Miranda looked way better in ME2. In ME3 her hair looks odd to me, as if she was stuck between ME2 and ME3 graphic update (see Ashley´s hair).

Anyway, i was disappointed with Miranda not only because of her little role, but because her mission was the same thing as in ME2. We helped her sister, and now her sister is again in danger so Miranda again saves her. I find it redundant and a waste of a good opportunity.

What could have be done instead? Well, for starters, something that explores the change in cerberus policy (specially if you were pro-cerberus in ME2) and perhaps a chance at helping her take over cerberus. If TIM must be a villain (because he is indoctrinated), then at least Miranda should be able to go with Shepard, and shepard could convince her to either take over or destroy cerberus (depending on paragon/renegade and possibly romance).

Then at the end if she was your romance, there should be a renegade chance for shepard to become the new illusive man along with miranda and rule over cerberus, and a paragon chance of just living somewhere as cerberus has been destroyed.

So to sum up, i think Miranda had a lot of potential and it was wasted on a mission that was a carbon copy of the ME2 loyalty mission

Modifié par Mykel54, 21 mai 2012 - 10:03 .

[MsKlaussen]

Edolix wrote...

Wasn't too bothered, I was pretty impartial in regards to Miranda.

I agree though, the choice should have existed. I would gladly have kicked EDI's stupid sexbot out of the airlock if it meant I could have room for an ME2 squaddie.

Naw, EDI as an active teammate was a great addition. And it could have worked out with all previous  squadmates included right alongside the new ones, given the extra time created by the release delay. All they needed to do was kick the real time consuming addition to the game out of the airlock.

Multiplayer.

Modifié par MsKlaussen, 21 mai 2012 - 11:03 .

[MsKlaussen]

floppypig wrote...

 ...and made them seem less important than, say Liara (who, btw, was pushed onto you like no ****ing tomorrow - not to mention it looked like her romance was made to be the best - the rest don't even compare).

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Ahh yes. Tali "received the hate".

We have dismissed those claims...

Modifié par MsKlaussen, 21 mai 2012 - 11:15 .

[almondroy]

Abraham_uk wrote...

The only reason why Tali and Garrus made it, is so they could have squadmates that have been at Shepard's side throughout the entire trilogy.

Interesting theory, but for those 0.001% of us who somehow managed to kill one or both of these two off during the ME2 suicide mission...

[CSly]

All the ME2 squadmates got stiffed, but with Cerberus featuring so heavily in ME3's plot, you'd have thought Miranda would have played a larger/more important role in the game.