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Would you buy a Romance DLC or Story Driven DLC and what would you want to see in it? (don't say new ending) *Possible Spoilers**


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DarkKat48

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I brushed upon this topic and recieved some interesting responses in the Tali Romance thread so thought I would open it up more to other people whome felt they were scorn or wanted to see expanded romance / story and backstory as a focus of a DLC and what kind of interest it would generate.  I've personally never seen a DLC focus purely on story before but I know I would certainly pay for one if the content was there.  As far as a 'romance' DLC the possibilities are endless beyond just that of another intimate cut scene.  A few off the top of my head were..
-Bringing back calling a love interest up to your quarters given the possibility for it to happen. 
- Using other portions of the ship such as the various lounges, perhaps even a poker game that focuses more on the dialog then the shuffling of cards.
- Expanded dates upon the Citadel
- Dates and expanded conversation that might touch more into the backstory, interests, and tidbits of knowledge about various LI
- Possible comments and conflicts of being with said love interst (qurian views of human / quarian relationship as an example) 
- Gifts and possibly alternative purchasable outfits from the various shops and other things added to the quarter be it recieved gifts or bought. 

Curious to see what other people think of.  I know this might of been better suited in ME2 when the galaxy was less in chaos but could be plausable in ME3 especially if peppered throughout the game or for those whome beat it just something to explore before the end.  Would also give a chance to further expand to those who felt they were not given a fair chance with their romance option from ME2, granted things with Thane would have to happen before unfortunate demise.

Looking forward to comments and expansion on this.  Please keep it creative and well thought out.

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Heh, reminds me of this article.

Personally, I'd like to have something like another loyalty mission, but more personal. I chose my LIs because I liked who they were, and being able to do a mission that gives insight into their character would be something I'd really enjoy. Admittedly this wouldn't work for, say, Jack or Jacob (because he's a real love interest right), who already had emotional loyalty missions, but there's a lot of unanswered questions for most of the others. If it was possible, it'd be nice to unlock the mission after locking in the romance but at key points in the game, like, say, a mission to rescue Kaidan's students after he mentions it for the second or third time, or perhaps a mission to save Garrus' family after he hears that transmission from his dad.

The biggest problem with the whole thing obviously is that Shepard's busy saving the galaxy at the moment, but hey, if she has enough time to do all those silly fetch quests I'm sure she could take a day out to help her significant other =P


To expand on your ideas:
  • I liked the idea of cuddling in ME2 and was disappointed to see it wasn't there in ME3. A version with better animation would be a nice addition.
  • I'm all for some expanded conversation with LIs, but only for the characters that need it (I'm looking at you, Thane, Jack, and Miranda).
  • I love the gift system in DA:O (can't remember for the life of me what it was like in DA2) but it would be a little hard to integrate into Mass Effect. I mean, why would something important to, say, Tali be sold by a merchant on the Citadel? The idea is good, I'm just not sure if it fits into the universe as seamlessly as it does in Dragon Age.
  • The idea of conflict between Shepard and the LI is great. There was a little bit of that in the cut dialogue scene between Ashley and Shep, which makes it disappointing that they didn't put it in. It wouldn't work for all the but it would add some realism to otherwise what feels like a whole bunch of perfect relationships.


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That was a really good article Flippedeclipse thanks for the link. I like your ideas as well. The gift idea could potentially work because expanded conversation could lead to learning things that the character likes or wants. Technically Shepard gifted a rock to Tali on the planet of Rannoch, but a piece of tech or maybe a suit upgrade could have potential as well, the Citadel does sell just about everything. The idea popped in my mind when you could buy Ash candy and flowers. Gifts could also be found.

Really like that idea of saving Garrus's sister and father, there is plenty of little side missions like that which could really expand things.

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DarkKat48 wrote...

The gift idea could potentially work because expanded conversation could lead to learning things that the character likes or wants. Technically Shepard gifted a rock to Tali on the planet of Rannoch, but a piece of tech or maybe a suit upgrade could have potential as well, the Citadel does sell just about everything. The idea popped in my mind when you could buy Ash candy and flowers. Gifts could also be found.


Yeah, that does make sense, I took it a little too literally. With a bit of creativity it would work, and it would be interesting to see which items are important to some characters. It'd be hilarious to see what kind of things non-LIs would like too, like Javik.

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Yeah it really could flesh things out more for the characters and give them even a greater sense of depth and personality. Just watching Javik adapt was fairly humorous as it was.

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They expanded on Liara's LI in LOTSB so I think it could work. It would be hard not to make new scenes jar with the existing game probably, but if the fans who missed out would be happy with that then why not? Any future SP DLC (no doubt all already in the making or done) could EASILY include quick missions or whatever with Parasini/Shiala/<insert missing NPC here> so I certainly hope they don't miss that opportunity.

Does helping Aria re-take Omega count as story driven? I'd mainly want a DLC like that to get an expansion of Aria's character rather than the mission per se.

Some things probably can't be 'fixed' with DLC though, such as Samara. For them to resolve that one favourably, she'd need to be a squaddie and I don't know that'd work with how they've set up the engine. They had to (allegedly...) pre-insert Javick into the vanilla ME3 for the DLC later.

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 Man, I would buy DLC that was just Shepard making out with his/her love interest for 15 minutes.

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I'd love a Romance DLC that expanded romance options for femShep (like, hmm, VEGA) mainly because she's SOL in the love department if she never romanced anyone before ME3 / Virmire'd Kaidan.
Additionally, there really, REALLY needs to be some expansion on ME2 romances. I feel like there was a lot of wasted potential in that respect. Jack, for example, underwent some of the greatest character development ever between 2 and 3, but I feel like she was swept under the rug in favor of the "real" LI's (Liara, VS, Tali, Garrus).

As for story driven DLC, I'd love to see ME2-esque loyalty missions. For instance, I'd pay cash money for a DLC that involved an undercover mission to Tiptree in search of Joker's family (even though we know what's become of them). Just doing things to help squadmates; scouting out Palaven for Garrus, going on a search-and-rescue for Kaidan's biotic students, etc.
Also, as much as people tend to hate them, VEHICLE SECTIONS! If ME3 brought back the Mako, I would cry in excitement. I love the Mako.

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I DEFFINATLY would like some Romance centric DLC.  I miss cuddling with my LI in Shepard's cabin, that could be difficult for LIs not on the Normandy but perhaps you can have a private apartment on the Citadel.

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I would love to have character-centric DLC for squadmates besides Liara and would definitely pay for back-story missions that flesh them out more.

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teelahtwee wrote...

Also, as much as people tend to hate them, VEHICLE SECTIONS! If ME3 brought back the Mako, I would cry in excitement. I love the Mako.


I'd pay for just this, with cutscenes of squaddies from ME1 looking absolutely horrified upon seeing Shepard's new toy.

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it would be nice to add a mission where sam and femshep went on a mission together to search for her parents

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Thane krios alive waking my Shepard up in their guest room, in Tali's house, to see their kids play Mordin on the beach" with Grunt and Garrus.

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i would not mind a DLC where you can take your LI on a date, and if you had a LI in ME2 they could interrupt and hilarity ensues.also add gifts for all LIs.

oh hey mike, great to see you, relatively speaking. great suggestion

Modifié par draken-heart, 21 mai 2012 - 11:30 .


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teelahtwee wrote...

Jack, for example, underwent some of the greatest character development ever between 2 and 3, but I feel like she was swept under the rug in favor of the "real" LI's (Liara, VS, Tali, Garrus). 


Sorry for being dumb, but you don't know if you don't ask.  Who is 'VS'?  Been wracking my brains and just can't work it out lol.  I've seen them mentioned elsewhere and wondered.

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MrStoob: VS stands for Virmire Survivor , AKA whoever you Chose to save on the Virmire misson in ME1 or when you got to that part on Genesis (Kaidan Alenko/Ashley Williams).

if you do not have either of those and played me2, the VS is the opposite gender of Shepard.

Modifié par draken-heart, 21 mai 2012 - 11:33 .


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Ah OK, TY. I didn't think I'd missed a whole character lol.

Oh and back on topic.  Dancing.  I want my dance with Liara!

Whenever in that area of the Wards in ME1, I could never resist popping into Flux for a little boogie with Liara and her sultry moves.  The dance with Jack was ruined by poor transitions and editing.

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I would defiantly pay for a Romance DLC including Javik. Character expansion could be endless. Given our love for the characters in the series Bioware could make a killing off of us if they simply listened to what we REALLY want.

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TO BE CLEAR I was happy overall w/ my ashley romance but some dlc to just add more convos, maybe in some creative new places, and more intercrew convos w ash and others

for miranda-to actually have a much longer and decent,actual end to that romance and a full love scene, maybe a dlc where its a mission she accompnies you on as a squaddie and it simutaneously wraps up the romance w that full love scene

as a matter of fact,a full actual mission w/ any of the possible LIs as squaddies, if done right and creatively, could do alot to enchance all of them

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@vvDRUCILLAvv in the words of jacob "so true" if they would just listen to what we actually wanted

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oh and we definqately need actual LI confronttions! {miranda and ashley!....id love to have them both on my squad at same time}

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I'd buy a DLC that added Joker as a romance option, and I would love for it to include saving at least his sister from Tiptree. Saving Garrus' family would be fun to, and we would finally see how a female turian looks like ^^

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flippedeclipse wrote...

Personally, I'd like to have something like another loyalty mission, but more personal. I chose my LIs because I liked who they were, and being able to do a mission that gives insight into their character would be something I'd really enjoy. Admittedly this wouldn't work for, say, Jack or Jacob (because he's a real love interest right), who already had emotional loyalty missions, but there's a lot of unanswered questions for most of the others. If it was possible, it'd be nice to unlock the mission after locking in the romance but at key points in the game, like, say, a mission to rescue Kaidan's students after he mentions it for the second or third time, or perhaps a mission to save Garrus' family after he hears that transmission from his dad.

The biggest problem with the whole thing obviously is that Shepard's busy saving the galaxy at the moment, but hey, if she has enough time to do all those silly fetch quests I'm sure she could take a day out to help her significant other =P


To expand on your ideas:

  • I liked the idea of cuddling in ME2 and was disappointed to see it wasn't there in ME3. A version with better animation would be a nice addition.
  • I'm all for some expanded conversation with LIs, but only for the characters that need it (I'm looking at you, Thane, Jack, and Miranda).
  • I love the gift system in DA:O (can't remember for the life of me what it was like in DA2) but it would be a little hard to integrate into Mass Effect. I mean, why would something important to, say, Tali be sold by a merchant on the Citadel? The idea is good, I'm just not sure if it fits into the universe as seamlessly as it does in Dragon Age.
  • The idea of conflict between Shepard and the LI is great. There was a little bit of that in the cut dialogue scene between Ashley and Shep, which makes it disappointing that they didn't put it in. It wouldn't work for all the but it would add some realism to otherwise what feels like a whole bunch of perfect relationships.


/\\ This, all of this, pure genius. The ME2 LI's especially got shafted.

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Sure, if that means I get to hang out more with Jack. Kinda got stiffed with her R.O. in 3.

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Of course, more Tali, always better