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Anybody following the Diablo 3 CS fiasco? Buyers beware(tl;dr).


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Melrache wrote...

Nah, I just know how to prioritize my stuffh. None of my friends are having any problems with the game either, sure one of them got hacked, but that's his own fault for not having an authenticator. 



Can you or your friends player now? Single player even?

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Skelter192 wrote...

Melrache wrote...

Nah, I just know how to prioritize my stuffh. None of my friends are having any problems with the game either, sure one of them got hacked, but that's his own fault for not having an authenticator. 



Can you or your friends player now? Single player even?


not to mention d3's server is so compromised, authenticator doesnt do anything.

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Hellbound555 wrote...

what?...

edit: ooooh, you were talking about feedback. Theres a difference between posting porn on Blizzard's forums and posting what OP did. Its not that hard to differentiate. What you're describing isn't feedback, its spam. Spam isn't feedback nor are they interchangeable.


Only the people in this thread sure felt like they are helping Blizz and were mad why they cant fix the servers already in spite of so much effort on the player's part.

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deuce985 wrote...

The hacking has me concerned because people who have Blizzard Authenticator on their account is getting hacked too. The only way that is possible is either A LOT of people are lying(doubtful) or Blizzard's entire system is compromised. Blizzard might not necessarily be lying about the secret breach because they don't even know the full details on it yet...


Or they actually are lying. Probably 1 or 2 people REALLY got hacked and then 5000 times that much claim the same even though it's not true.

That's how it always goes.

The game definitely already has a major problem with Chinese farmers. I get them in my public games often. They're usually not a big problem though, so I don't care.


Loot is separated for everyone, there is no ninja looting, so I dont see why it is a problem if some guy wants to farm it.

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Hellbound555 wrote...

Skelter192 wrote...

Melrache wrote...

Nah, I just know how to prioritize my stuffh. None of my friends are having any problems with the game either, sure one of them got hacked, but that's his own fault for not having an authenticator. 



Can you or your friends player now? Single player even?


not to mention d3's server is so compromised, authenticator doesnt do anything.



Playing just fine since release.

I admit, there were some annoying server overloads and a sh!tty maintenance on sunday, but, sadly that's normal nowadays.


For the record, if I could change my D3 in a version with a true offline mode I'd be running to the shop already, but if I cant I wont get angry about it. Unlike sh!t like Origins I trust Blizzard to get it working.

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That's a sensible attitude. Do you expect people on the internet to be sensible? :)

Modifié par eroeru, 22 mai 2012 - 11:53 .


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Got the (PC) Collector Edition myself of Diablo 3 and the game is good. Graphics is good enough, not amazing but certainly not that bad. Story is okay but I'm only in act 2 so far. Music is good, sound effects are good. Controls are very easy to use on keyboard and mouse. I have had zero technical problems with the game (no network problems, no logging in problems, no graphics problems, nooo big problems at all after about 15 hours playing so far). I do not mind the always online because my broadband is always online and hasn't gone down for even a day in years so makes bugger all difference to me at the moment. It can stutter on rare occassions if running my browser and game same time but only once in blue moon does that happen to me. I am very much enjoying the game greatly, it has the same appeal as grinding dungeons in D1 and D2, looting and finding new things, the amusing little secrets and quests and crafting.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 22 mai 2012 - 01:49 .


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Tirigon, dont be such a pushover..

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I honestly don't give a damn about the log in problems, those will be fixed in time - the real problem here is that you have to log in to begin with. It's an affront to the consumer, and the fact that so many people are willing to put up with it means the DRM situation will only worsen. :mellow:

Modifié par greengoron89, 22 mai 2012 - 01:43 .


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Hellbound555 wrote...

Tirigon, dont be such a pushover..



But...but its Blizzard. Blizzard is the best and not part of evul companies like EA or Activision.

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Confess-A-Bear wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

Tirigon, dont be such a pushover..



But...but its Blizzard. Blizzard is the best and not part of evul companies like EA or Activision.


Blizzard are the INVENTORS of Evil, they made WoW, remember?

But the thing is: Blizz has never disappointed me. Their games deliver what they promise. I might not like some (like WoW) but noone forces me to play it, then, and those I like work, and dont disappoint me (unlike certain BioWare sequels).

Dont misunderstand me, I am sorry if you have problems with the game because you miss a great one, but imo Blizzard still deliver quality and that deserves respect, not stupid whining.

And some complaints are just ridiculous, especially those about the DRM. It is not something you get forced into after you bought the game but it was announced from the start and even advertised as a feature.

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Yeah they do give everything they say they will. Problem is not all of its good.

Modifié par Confess-A-Bear, 22 mai 2012 - 02:22 .


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Confess-A-Bear wrote...

Yeah they do give everything they say they will. Problem is not all of its good.


That is true. But still, a company is not your personal servant, they are not forced to fulfill every wish, and they cant anyways.


The thing is: If a company promises something you dont like, you can just refuse to buy it and be done with it, and no harm done.

A problem exists only if they promise something you want and deliver something else. And that, for me at least, Blizzard has never done so I have some trust in them I dont have in other companies.

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You're being a bit presumptuous, aren't you? I didn't buy (or ever planned to buy) Diablo III, or any Blizzard game for that matter - I never liked them much in the first place.

But this goes beyond just Blizzard and Diablo III - as I said, this sets a dangerous precedent against the consumer. DRM has already gone too far - how much further will the consumer let it go before they say "enough"?

Well if Diablo III's success is any indication, it'll go a lot further.

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greengoron89 wrote...

You're being a bit presumptuous, aren't you? I didn't buy (or ever planned to buy) Diablo III, or any Blizzard game for that matter - I never liked them much in the first place.

But this goes beyond just Blizzard and Diablo III - as I said, this sets a dangerous precedent against the consumer. DRM has already gone too far - how much further will the consumer let it go before they say "enough"?

Well if Diablo III's success is any indication, it'll go a lot further.



Yes, and in a way I am a bit sad I had to support it to play Diablo3, because I dont like it either.

Ultimately though, what can we do? If you dont like the game anyways you got it easy, dont buy and hopefully enough will do the same for the company to feel it.

But if you DO like the game you have to choose if you are willing to boycott anyways, or accept the DRM.

I chose the latter, because I can also see advantages in Blizzard's BattleNet; but of course I dont blame anyone if they choose boycotting.



But I dont think it will necessarily go further, or if it does, then it is because of games like Mass Effect rather than D3. D3 is a special case because Blizzard really doesnt give a f*ck about its success, they earn their money with WoW anyways (D3 was even free for everyone with a 1-year subscription to WoW, so....); I dont think many other companies could get away with it.

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greengoron89 wrote...

You're being a bit presumptuous, aren't you? I didn't buy (or ever planned to buy) Diablo III, or any Blizzard game for that matter - I never liked them much in the first place.

But this goes beyond just Blizzard and Diablo III - as I said, this sets a dangerous precedent against the consumer. DRM has already gone too far - how much further will the consumer let it go before they say "enough"?

Well if Diablo III's success is any indication, it'll go a lot further.


Unfortunately, you are exactly right. It is going to go a lot further. That's why there is massive backlash...this is a battleground of sorts. But those trying something like this won't ever get a penny out of me. And that's pure fact, not a hollow threat. The thing that's frustrating is IT DOESN'T WORK. How much more moronic can these companies get?

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Confess-A-Bear wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

Tirigon, dont be such a pushover..



But...but its Blizzard. Blizzard is the best and not part of evul companies like EA or Activision.


Blizzard is a part of Activision.

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wolfsite wrote...

Confess-A-Bear wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

Tirigon, dont be such a pushover..



But...but its Blizzard. Blizzard is the best and not part of evul companies like EA or Activision.


Blizzard is a part of Activision.


Oh snap!

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Well that explains a lot then, doesn't it?

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Melrache wrote...

Nah, I just know how to prioritize my stuffh. None of my friends are having any problems with the game either, sure one of them got hacked, but that's his own fault for not having an authenticator. 


Guess reading is not your forte.


reading doesn't affect him lets just burn all books.

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deuce985 wrote...

Yea, I posted about that.

I was able to finally get in just now after sitting out for almot 40 hours. It seems the latency issue is going down and the stutter bug a bit. So at least they're working on those well. Hopefully it's fully fixed this week.

The hacking has me concerned because people who have Blizzard Authenticator on their account is getting hacked too. The only way that is possible is either A LOT of people are lying(doubtful) or Blizzard's entire system is compromised. Blizzard might not necessarily be lying about the secret breach because they don't even know the full details on it yet...


Ah yes, hacked accounts. I have no doubt in my mind that their system is not 100% secure, but you will never hear them admit to that. Why would they? If they admit it they're done. The sad fact is it's infinitely harder to design secure systems than it is to break them.

Of course, since web technology is about as secure as a rabid polar bear in a mental institution, nobody who has opened a browser is 100% safe from keyloggers. It has come to the point where a complete idiot with a toolkit can "hack" (and probably feel like a big bad "hacker" while they're at it... what's a sequel?!?). Goes without saying that Diablo 3 players are going to get targeted if there's real money involved.

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greengoron89 wrote...

Oh, so people are "entitled whiners" for hating Blizzard's bulls*** always-online DRM now? How come I didn't get a memo about this?

Well damn, I guess I better quit my bawling and do exactly what Blizzard and these high-and-mighty paid journalists expect of me, then. I don't wanna come off as entitled to the products I pay for. :D


Than bring something on the table. You're whining. You're hating. Are you listening to the kid crying in the grocery store because mommy and pappy did not purchase him the right candy bar? Well you`re just like this kid. You're a nuissance  and the last  thing people will have for you is sympathy, Come up with strong criticism and leave your childlike emotion behind. Bring value to your post and not only  background internet noise.

Blizzard deleted Op thread 2 time. He react and does not think. The simple fact that he talk about his deleted thread tell me much about his behavior. He`s just like my nephew but, much older and  with no parent to enslave. (Children king like behavior).

Like I said in  a different thread. Blizzard is a private corporation. Not a charity organization. Everyone knew that DIablo3 would require you to log into their server for you to play. They never lied to you and you complain about it?

The OP complain about the server problem during the first 24 hours of the game. I`m not expert on server management. There`s a reason whhy some people are paid to to just that . Because it`s complicated and sophisticated and i doubt the thread starter have any idea of what he`s talking about.

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greengoron89 wrote...

Oh, so people are "entitled whiners" for hating Blizzard's bulls*** always-online DRM now? How come I didn't get a memo about this?

Well damn, I guess I better quit my bawling and do exactly what Blizzard and these high-and-mighty paid journalists expect of me, then. I don't wanna come off as entitled to the products I pay for. :D


Than bring something on the table. You're whining. You're hating. Are you listening to the kid crying in the grocery store because mommy and pappy did not purchase him the right candy bar? Well you`re just like this kid. You're a nuissance  and the last  thing people will have for you is sympathy, Come up with strong criticism and leave your childlike emotion behind. Bring value to your post and not only  background internet noise.

Blizzard deleted Op thread 2 time. He react and does not think. The simple fact that he talk about his deleted thread tell me much about his behavior. He`s just like my nephew but, much older and  with no parent to enslave. (Children king like behavior).

Like I said in  a different thread. Blizzard is a private corporation. Not a charity organization. Everyone knew that DIablo3 would require you to log into their server for you to play. They never lied to you and you complain about it?

The OP complain about the server problem during the first 24 hours of the game. I`m not expert on server management. There`s a reason whhy some people are paid to to just that . Because it`s complicated and sophisticated and i doubt the thread starter have any idea of what he`s talking about.


Are you blind? I said I didn't buy Diablo III, have never owned or played any other Blizzard game, and that I never liked Blizzard to begin with - I didn't know or care anything about Diablo III until the DRM fiasco popped up. I've already stated my thoughts on that matter several times, which you apparently ignored/didn't read and settled on hurling baseless personal insults at me instead.

Modifié par greengoron89, 22 mai 2012 - 09:40 .


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Suprez30 wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

Oh, so people are "entitled whiners" for hating Blizzard's bulls*** always-online DRM now? How come I didn't get a memo about this?

Well damn, I guess I better quit my bawling and do exactly what Blizzard and these high-and-mighty paid journalists expect of me, then. I don't wanna come off as entitled to the products I pay for. :D


Than bring something on the table. You're whining. You're hating. Are you listening to the kid crying in the grocery store because mommy and pappy did not purchase him the right candy bar? Well you`re just like this kid. You're a nuissance  and the last  thing people will have for you is sympathy, Come up with strong criticism and leave your childlike emotion behind. Bring value to your post and not only  background internet noise.

Blizzard deleted Op thread 2 time. He react and does not think. The simple fact that he talk about his deleted thread tell me much about his behavior. He`s just like my nephew but, much older and  with no parent to enslave. (Children king like behavior).

Like I said in  a different thread. Blizzard is a private corporation. Not a charity organization. Everyone knew that DIablo3 would require you to log into their server for you to play. They never lied to you and you complain about it?

The OP complain about the server problem during the first 24 hours of the game. I`m not expert on server management. There`s a reason whhy some people are paid to to just that . Because it`s complicated and sophisticated and i doubt the thread starter have any idea of what he`s talking about.


Your kid crying for a candy bar metaphor only works if we're all planning on pirating this game.

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Tirigon wrote...

Confess-A-Bear wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

Tirigon, dont be such a pushover..



But...but its Blizzard. Blizzard is the best and not part of evul companies like EA or Activision.


Blizzard are the INVENTORS of Evil, they made WoW, remember?

But the thing is: Blizz has never disappointed me. Their games deliver what they promise. I might not like some (like WoW) but noone forces me to play it, then, and those I like work, and dont disappoint me (unlike certain BioWare sequels).

Dont misunderstand me, I am sorry if you have problems with the game because you miss a great one, but imo Blizzard still deliver quality and that deserves respect, not stupid whining.

And some complaints are just ridiculous, especially those about the DRM. It is not something you get forced into after you bought the game but it was announced from the start and even advertised as a feature.

So what you're saying is, its ok to let the gaming industry walk all over the gamers as long as what they churn out makes a profit?

Isn't that a bit machiavellian? You know, the costumer might not "always be right" but theres this thing called Costumer service where we should at least expect not to be treated like crap...But I understand some people love playing the role of a doormat.

I'm fine waiting a bit longer until Blizzard get's its act together. I avoided the great Mass3 flop thanks to this same principle and I will avoid the klausterfokken that is happening NOW with D3 by doing the same.

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Also the "this is bound to happen with any game." BULL POOP!!!! Blizzard is one of the biggest game companies out there they make their biggest money on making a MMO run smoothly. This thing affected not only Diablo 3 but any WoW players too.
Give me a break I'm no expert on servers far from it nor do I work for Blizzard but if I was I'd probably be fired right now.