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Why is the last thought my Shepard has of Liara?


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#101
legion999

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Because Bioware loves Liara too much.

Oh and a small thing OP; Garrus was Archangel on Omega not Purgatory. Purgatory is the prison ship Jack was on and is also the name of the club in ME3.

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Rip504 wrote...

DevilBeast wrote...

arial wrote...

Liara is pregnant with Shep's children wether you romanced her or not. remember before Priority earth where she gives Shep "one more gift"?

well that merge was meant for Liara to be impregnated with Shepards children.

theoretically this could have been intended from the beginning of the franchise. this would explain why Liara is one of the few squadmates that can not die and why Asari can have children with either gender


*sigh* I´m starting to wonder if people even know how mind melding works. By your logic Liara would have been pregnant back in ME1 and the same goes for Shiala.


No by your assumption of their logic.
I assume her intent was to impregnate herself at the end of ME3,not during ME1. We understand that mind melding can create Asari children. Her intent is what changed. Your assumption may be wrong. Physical encounters are not needed to reproduce with Asari.


And how exactly do you know that her intent in ME3 was to produce a child?? Many people act like mind melding is always about sex, when ME1 has shown us that it is not.

#103
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Remember when Bioware said everyone's ending would be unique? Yeeeeeeah.

#104
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Well I romanced Liara so I didn't really think anything of it. I mean why wouldn't my Shepard's last thought be of her? But now having heard that its always Liara for everyone I agree that's kind of lame. Everyone should get to see their romances :D

Modifié par goatman42, 21 mai 2012 - 11:44 .


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Dr_Brilliant

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Lyrebon wrote...

Remember when Bioware said everyone's ending would be unique? Yeeeeeeah.


I love how this one thread brings up this point so nicely :P

#106
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I thought it was really lazy on the part of Bioware. I like Liara and I've romanced her, but to have everyone have her as a last thought and to ignore every other LI was just ridiculous.

#107
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Everyone should see their LIs, but even an unromanced Liara makes more sense than Joker or Anderson....a picture of the whole crew + a picture of your LI (or the Normandy if Shep is single) would be ideal, IMO

#108
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 Okay, I think I may have come up with an answer to the OP's question.  Shepard's last thought was of Liara because Liara forced him to think of her.

#109
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I would be thinking more of Legion.

Not just because I liked him a lot, but because it is kinda the same situation.

Sacrificing yourself to save an entire race. (Or in Shepard's case, the universe)

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Joe Del Toro

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I really don't see why every squadmember couldn't be seen. Every single one had an impact (Even Jacob! Sort of...meh whatever)

Not just shots of them looking at you, but key moments. As Shepard employs his/her choice, you see flashbacks of Thane saying a prayer, Legion sacrificing himself, Mordin singing, Wrex greeting you on Tuchanka, Tali hugging you, Garrus standing beside you on the presidium.

Depending on how your playthrough went, these moments would affect you differently. If Miranda died in ME2, or Kaidan in ME1, and you see a flashback of them as Shepard concludes his/her story? That at least would make the current endings SLIGHTLY more different to one another.

Three flashbacks, one of them potentially nonsensical, isn't acceptable to me

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I'd like to think Shepard started having a nightmare toward the end of the flashback and was horrified to see Liara's face.

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People are still complaining about this?

I can't find the post, but I know for a fact I read a Bioware post stating that Liara being the default sequence (if you didn't romance the VS) is a bug. Someone else may be able to find it, since I'm having difficulty apparently.

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Because of COMA theory.

http://social.biowar.../index/12175749

Modifié par zambot, 22 mai 2012 - 01:12 .


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The Cheat wrote...

People are still complaining about this?

I can't find the post, but I know for a fact I read a Bioware post stating that Liara being the default sequence (if you didn't romance the VS) is a bug. Someone else may be able to find it, since I'm having difficulty apparently.


Exepct there isn't even video files for the other Love interests for said scene. It is not a bug where they are not apearing, it is just blatently not in the game.

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TheWerdna wrote...

The Cheat wrote...

People are still complaining about this?

I can't find the post, but I know for a fact I read a Bioware post stating that Liara being the default sequence (if you didn't romance the VS) is a bug. Someone else may be able to find it, since I'm having difficulty apparently.


Exepct there isn't even video files for the other Love interests for said scene. It is not a bug where they are not apearing, it is just blatently not in the game.


Last I checked, it's quite possible for missing assets (i.e. other videos) to still be considered a "bug." Like I said, I can't find the thread since my search terms aren't picking up anything related to it, but I did read it.

Obviously the entire ending feels rushed, but there may have been some assets that were intended to be in that missed getting placed in the final build due to said rush.

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arial wrote...

Liara is pregnant with Shep's children wether you romanced her or not. remember before Priority earth where she gives Shep "one more gift"?

well that merge was meant for Liara to be impregnated with Shepards children.

theoretically this could have been intended from the beginning of the franchise. this would explain why Liara is one of the few squadmates that can not die and why Asari can have children with either gender


Stop this weird ass mind rape feat. Liara, it's creepy and very virgin-like.

What kind of f'ck-up would believe this kind of crap? What she did was just share lovely memories of her past with Shepard, as an act of friendship. Think of it as sharing an old photo-album with a friend and telling it's history and whatnot.

Not like, trying to sneak a pill into their glass and violate them while they're completely oblivious to it.

Jesus, you people scare the **** out of me. <_<

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The Cheat wrote...

People are still complaining about this?

I can't find the post, but I know for a fact I read a Bioware post stating that Liara being the default sequence (if you didn't romance the VS) is a bug. Someone else may be able to find it, since I'm having difficulty apparently.

It's not a bug. There's are no other sequences in the game's data files.

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Fingertrip wrote...

arial wrote...

Liara is pregnant with Shep's children wether you romanced her or not. remember before Priority earth where she gives Shep "one more gift"?

well that merge was meant for Liara to be impregnated with Shepards children.

theoretically this could have been intended from the beginning of the franchise. this would explain why Liara is one of the few squadmates that can not die and why Asari can have children with either gender


Stop this weird ass mind rape feat. Liara, it's creepy and very virgin-like.

What kind of f'ck-up would believe this kind of crap? What she did was just share lovely memories of her past with Shepard, as an act of friendship. Think of it as sharing an old photo-album with a friend and telling it's history and whatnot.

Not like, trying to sneak a pill into their glass and violate them while they're completely oblivious to it.

Jesus, you people scare the **** out of me. <_<


Thank you. Nice to see that I´m not the only one who doesn´t believe in the whole "WTH! Liara just mind raped me!!!!11"

Modifié par DevilBeast, 22 mai 2012 - 02:20 .


#119
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Canon LI is clearly Liara which is ok as a Liara is pretty cool and one of the most powerful squad mates in both ME1 and 3. This isn't first disconect between player thoughts and Sheps thoughts in the game I as a player didn't care at all about ventboy but my shepard sure did he must of also secretly had a thing for blue skinned aliens as well poor Tali.

Modifié par poundoffleshaa, 22 mai 2012 - 02:35 .


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bleetman wrote...

thijs166 wrote...

well, it was stated their was a bug or glitch in the cinematics before the game came out. with a pc you can repair that using mods to get your me2 li. i hope it will be patched

No, you can't. If you're on the PC, you can 'fix' it by entirely replacing the Liara cutscene .bik file with ones fans themselves have made.

There just aren't flashbacks of the ME2/3 LI's. At all. Anywhere. They don't exist.

I was wondering if what he said was complete bunk, thanks for clearing that up....

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The Cheat wrote...
Last I checked, it's quite possible for missing assets (i.e. other videos) to still be considered a "bug." Like I said, I can't find the thread since my search terms aren't picking up anything related to it, but I did read it.

Obviously the entire ending feels rushed, but there may have been some assets that were intended to be in that missed getting placed in the final build due to said rush.


Assets not in final build =/= bug.
Assets not in final build = Incomplete product.

While fortunately some people have made mods for the game to add in other LI's, I'm stuck on the console version and can't add in my wonderful LI of Tali.

*sigh* Luckily other things take priority.

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ediskrad327 wrote...

rushed game


Pretty much this.  Even if they were actually surprised by how negatively people reacted to the ending, there is no way they didn't foresee people wondering why they saw Liara.  Combine that with how the only real difference in the endings is a color swap, and it's obvious that the ending was very rushed and they thought we'd just accept it. 



And it's also an extremely sad commentary that the last thing we see at the end of a such a great series is an advertisement.  Was the main menu not enough?  At least that makes some sense and doesn't completely throw off any sort of emotional reaction that Bioware was trying to create.

Random Jerkface wrote...

The Cheat wrote...

People are still complaining about this?

I
can't find the post, but I know for a fact I read a Bioware post
stating that Liara being the default sequence (if you didn't romance the
VS) is a bug. Someone else may be able to find it, since I'm having
difficulty apparently.

It's not a bug. There's are no other sequences in the game's data files.


Bingo.  I've looked through the files.  As a matter of fact, I've installed a mod to the ending sequence to address this exact issue.  It's not a bug, the devs just didn't put anything other than the VS and Liara in there.

Modifié par Greed1914, 22 mai 2012 - 04:11 .


#123
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jdtungsten wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Gen Petitt wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Gen Petitt wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...
It's because everyone is blue at heart.

No I am red or purple mostly purple the only blue is Garrus and only for my armor green

Nah, you're blue, you just can't accept it yet. 

I aint blue "Dirty blues." I would rather have this than Liara because this is more effective


Blue is best . 

Control, Liara, the winners of the Champion's League...........

But if you'd rather have a painful existence unable to accept that then pfft, fine. 


So you must be a huge fan of the Catalyst seeing that he is also blue.


I didn't say everything blue was good. 

#124
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I THINK that's probably because Liara saved your life... but it's still ridiculous that she is the last and most important flashback AND we don't get to see LI

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Because Bioware couldn't be arsed to do the ending properly.