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comrade gando wrote...

honestly I didn't know what to expect with ME3's ending. after seeing ME2's ending I felt like a champion, like I accomplished something. I felt AWESOME. I had an idea of how ME3's ending should have been, I believe the word DRAGONFORCE would summarize it, certainly didn't expect what we got...

That's because Mass Effect 2 Was Pure 100% Epic.

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This is true, but in terms of script writing BioWare >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Konami.

There's only so much ninja flip and backturning during speeches and poop jokes I can take before it gets old and too "Japanese."

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ShepnTali wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...

i bought a PS3 for the sole reason i wanted to play MGS4, uncharted(2), and infamous.

MGS4 was good. i remember i did skip alot of the cuts scenes though. i dont remember thinking i really wanted to play the game again. i just felt like i completed it and that was the end. i didnt need any more MGS. ill prolly try it out again in a month or two since no other good games are getting released this year. ...assains creed 3, ghost recon might be cool, is halo 4 this year? i think bioshock got pushed back. hopefully they dont crapshoot their ending.

infamous was alot better for me. it gave me the assassins creed roof running with electrical super powers. i enjoyed that game from start to finish(although arkham city is the best roof running ill ever experience). uncharted 2 was damn awesome. in my top 5 games played for sure. i havent even finished uncharted 3 yet, i havent really gotten into it. it seems like more of the same, but less interesting. uncharted really needs to feature some RPG elements like weapon customization and maybe some interesting abilities or combat features.


What about Infamous 2? Do not deny yourself!


Infamous 2 had 2 great bittersweet endings! The evil ending had me feeling like crap. I just sat there looking at the TV not wanting to do what I had to do...

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OniTYME wrote...

This is true, but in terms of script writing BioWare >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Konami.

There's only so much ninja flip and backturning during speeches and poop jokes I can take before it gets old and too "Japanese."


Talk about hyperbole.
<_<

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squee365 wrote...

OniTYME wrote...

This is true, but in terms of script writing BioWare >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Konami.

There's only so much ninja flip and backturning during speeches and poop jokes I can take before it gets old and too "Japanese."


Talk about hyperbole.
<_<


And then Kai Leng happened. :D

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I played mgs4 again to cheer me up after the ending of mass effect. Now that was a bitter sweet ending and it actualy can be considered art in my book.

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I played mgs4 again to cheer me up after the ending of mass effect. Now that was a bitter sweet ending and it actualy can be considered art in my book.

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Haven't played in years will have to check it out eventually. Number 1 game of all time is still ME1, for me that is. Game play was somewhat clunky but besides that the game had a terrific story line, massive galaxy to explore and the ending was superb. The Codex just tops it off. ME2 was good, very odd omissions like why doesn't anyone want to chat with me about not being dead anymore? Is it weird remembering your death and then all of a sudden being alive again? Ashley is the only one who really refers to it in serious tones in ME2.

ME3, even though it lacked a lot of great things from ME1 was incredible until the very end. I hope they do something good with it.

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MGS4 was alright, but it REALLY bugged me that the MGS theme music used in all three previous games was wholly and completely absent from the final game. For that alone it gets severely marked down (although the ridiculously long cutscenes also tend to be a pain after a while).



What about the final confrontation with Liquid? That had every main theme throughout the series.

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JBPBRC wrote...

squee365 wrote...

OniTYME wrote...

This is true, but in terms of script writing BioWare >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Konami.

There's only so much ninja flip and backturning during speeches and poop jokes I can take before it gets old and too "Japanese."


Talk about hyperbole.
<_<


And then Kai Leng happened. :D

Yet it wasn't overdone. MGS? Every other enemy was a friggin power ranger by the time you reached the first checkpoint. It got annoyingly cliche.

I agree wholeheartedly on the intent of the thread though. MGS4 was a perfect example of wrapping everything up, and tying loose ends. Even characters from Metal Gear classic were referenced!

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OniTYME wrote...

JBPBRC wrote...

squee365 wrote...

OniTYME wrote...

This is true, but in terms of script writing BioWare >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Konami.

There's only so much ninja flip and backturning during speeches and poop jokes I can take before it gets old and too "Japanese."


Talk about hyperbole.
<_<


And then Kai Leng happened. :D

Yet it wasn't overdone. MGS? Every other enemy was a friggin power ranger by the time you reached the first checkpoint. It got annoyingly cliche.

I agree wholeheartedly on the intent of the thread though. MGS4 was a perfect example of wrapping everything up, and tying loose ends. Even characters from Metal Gear classic were referenced!


Still hyperbole. It wasn't as overdone as you think IMO.
Ever hear the phrase tongue-in-cheek?
Saying the whole over-the-top action is overdone is like saying The Good The Bad and The Ugly's gunplay is overdone. 

Modifié par squee365, 22 mai 2012 - 02:09 .


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tekkaman fear wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

The Spamming Troll wrote...

i bought a PS3 for the sole reason i wanted to play MGS4, uncharted(2), and infamous.

MGS4 was good. i remember i did skip alot of the cuts scenes though. i dont remember thinking i really wanted to play the game again. i just felt like i completed it and that was the end. i didnt need any more MGS. ill prolly try it out again in a month or two since no other good games are getting released this year. ...assains creed 3, ghost recon might be cool, is halo 4 this year? i think bioshock got pushed back. hopefully they dont crapshoot their ending.

infamous was alot better for me. it gave me the assassins creed roof running with electrical super powers. i enjoyed that game from start to finish(although arkham city is the best roof running ill ever experience). uncharted 2 was damn awesome. in my top 5 games played for sure. i havent even finished uncharted 3 yet, i havent really gotten into it. it seems like more of the same, but less interesting. uncharted really needs to feature some RPG elements like weapon customization and maybe some interesting abilities or combat features.


What about Infamous 2? Do not deny yourself!


Infamous 2 had 2 great bittersweet endings! The evil ending had me feeling like crap. I just sat there looking at the TV not wanting to do what I had to do...


And that one line of dialogue split between the two (I'm sure you know what I'm referring to)... I will never, ever forget it.   

As good as Infamous was, Infamous 2 improved on just about everything. Including Cole's voice. As much as I love the Arkham games, Infamous 2 is still probably my favorite Superhero type game.

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Any comments contrary to the greatness that is Konami is blasphemy.
... By the way, great post!

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Calibrations Expert wrote...

 Portal 2. Now that's how you end a game in space.

SPAAAAAAAAAACE!

Portal 2 was the best ending I have ever witnessed in a video game. ME2 coming in second. I never got around to beating MGS4.

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Minnon wrote...

Calibrations Expert wrote...

 Portal 2. Now that's how you end a game in space.

SPAAAAAAAAAACE!

Portal 2 was the best ending I have ever witnessed in a video game. ME2 coming in second


I second this. 

Modifié par squee365, 22 mai 2012 - 02:12 .


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Never could get into the MGS series. Personally I thought the gameplay was clunky and too many cut-scenes that to me were just way too over the top to take seriously. I'd rather ME stay where it is then go the MGS route, and I really didn't like ME's ending.

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squee365 wrote...

OniTYME wrote...

JBPBRC wrote...

squee365 wrote...

OniTYME wrote...

This is true, but in terms of script writing BioWare >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Konami.

There's only so much ninja flip and backturning during speeches and poop jokes I can take before it gets old and too "Japanese."


Talk about hyperbole.
<_<


And then Kai Leng happened. :D

Yet it wasn't overdone. MGS? Every other enemy was a friggin power ranger by the time you reached the first checkpoint. It got annoyingly cliche.

I agree wholeheartedly on the intent of the thread though. MGS4 was a perfect example of wrapping everything up, and tying loose ends. Even characters from Metal Gear classic were referenced!


Still hyperbole. It wasn't as overdone as you think IMO.
Ever hear the phrase tongue-in-cheek?
Saying the whole over-the-top action is overdone is like saying The Good The Bad and The Ugly's gunplay is overdone. 

wat?


ANYWAYS.


MGS ending was great. Silly cutscenes and contrived stories where the villian's actually a quadruple spy helping the protagonist are not.

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OniTYME wrote...

This is true, but in terms of script writing BioWare >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Konami.

There's only so much ninja flip and backturning during speeches and poop jokes I can take before it gets old and too "Japanese."

This.  All of this.

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Really stupid ending tough, I mean Big Boss is alive? How? Why? And ofc then he dies of a 12 minute heart attack while spouting exposition...

I like MGS series but some things in MGS4 just went over the top in sillyness, and its more of an some half realistic anime movie than a game anyway. You watch it more than you play.

And the wizard did it of MGS = NANOMACHINES!!

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Armass81 wrote...

Really stupid ending tough, I mean Big Boss is alive? How? Why? And ofc then he dies of a 12 minute heart attack while spouting exposition...

It's explained multiple times. The FOXDIE death was for closure. To Snake's feelings on BB, and to the feud between BB and Zero. A way for the old soldiers to completely die off to make way for a free future.

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Ahhhh, MGS4...I remember I've bought a PS3 only to play this game and sold it after the game was finished.

Epic ending.

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OniTYME wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Really stupid ending tough, I mean Big Boss is alive? How? Why? And ofc then he dies of a 12 minute heart attack while spouting exposition...

It's explained multiple times. The FOXDIE death was for closure. To Snake's feelings on BB, and to the feud between BB and Zero. A way for the old soldiers to completely die off to make way for a free future.


Thats still not a proper way to end a series. You cant just resurrect an old nemesis thats been long dead in the last minute to tell you every little secret then have him just die off in a 12 minute heart attack. Its ridiculous, and the game already has mooing, bleeding robots, a cyber bishounen ninja, a cola drinking monkey whos wearing underpants, a quadruble agent that is maybe possessed by an arm of another person, a nanomachine superpowered vampire and supermodels in mechasuits. Poof goes my brain, but then again, thuis game is made in Japan. Something like this should be expected... Its not teh first thing coming from there that doesnt make any sense.

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Armass81 wrote...

OniTYME wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

Really stupid ending tough, I mean Big Boss is alive? How? Why? And ofc then he dies of a 12 minute heart attack while spouting exposition...

It's explained multiple times. The FOXDIE death was for closure. To Snake's feelings on BB, and to the feud between BB and Zero. A way for the old soldiers to completely die off to make way for a free future.


Thats still not a proper way to end a series. You cant just resurrect an old nemesis thats been long dead in the last minute to tell you every little secret then have him just die off in a 12 minute heart attack. Its ridiculous, and the game already has mooing, bleeding robots, a cyber bishounen ninja, a cola drinking monkey whos wearing underpants, a quadruble agent that is maybe possessed by an arm of another person and supermodels in mechasuits. Poof goes my brain.

If you're familiar with the MG universe, you'd be able to suspend disbelief for that. It's not exactly the first time someone thought to be dead returned from the dead.

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An hour long cutscene to end a game is considered a good thing?

wtf -_-

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Most people in this thread (mostly people who've never played MGS4) seem to forget there is around 20 hours of amazing gameplay also. I hate the whole "It's a movie not a game lol" because I had more fun with MGS4's GAMEPLAY than I ever did with ME3's.

MGS4 is actually my least favourite of the series though. :P