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Re-release Mass Effect 1 with ME3 gameplay improvements = Best game in the trilogy


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HammerFists

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Was curious how other fans of the series would receive this or perhaps it's been thought of before and I'm late to the party. I was thinking along the lines similar to the treatment done to the original Halo game when they released Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary last year. The orignal game in the series re-relased updated into the current engine along with current gameplay.

Part of this is fueled from my personal opinions regarding ME1 having the "best" story and I felt a greater sense of satisfaction upon beating the game than I did with ME2 or 3. However the gameplay did improve in many ways with each game and I feel the original Mass Effect that plays closer to the level of todays iteration would by far be the best in the series. I don't necessarily mean take ME1 story and plug it into ME3s engine, but more like a mulligan with ME1. I also say take another shot at Mako gameplay on planet surfaces, it has a ton of potential, so maybe I'm just crazy?

Modifié par HammerFists, 22 mai 2012 - 11:24 .


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And what magical, mystical "gameplay improvements" would these be?

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But I liked using OP biotics that made the game easy....

I doubt they would make an updated version for a while. Maybe for the next generation of consoles or the generation after.

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Terror_K wrote...

And what magical, mystical "gameplay improvements" would these be?


Combat I guess? Though they would need to make it much more difficult.

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I DO wander if they will release a box set with everything involving Mass Effect.

-Including Comics & Books
-Improved Mass Effect Games with Updates and Others

And perhaps other things. Would make sense.

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Terror_K wrote...

And what magical, mystical "gameplay improvements" would these be?


You know, the ones that are visible for people not wearing nostalgia goggles so tightly that they're causing physical damage.

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Oh, are we going to pretend that ME1's broken, illconcieved Gameplay is a billion times better then 3's Terror?

Pretty sure there's a Disingenuous Assertion joke in here somewhere.

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I'd worry more about piecing together a good shooter in first place, something Bioware has yet to do, it seems.

Modifié par Maderek, 22 mai 2012 - 10:53 .


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It'll get rebooted in a decade or so, and turn Shepard into a dark, gritty emo while taking away choice entirely, filled with "live or die" quick-time events and flashy, over-the-top combat while over-dwelling on the darkness of the Reaper threat.

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I think ME combat is just fine. Besides, ME was never a shooter. I play ME since it's a RPG not a shooter. If they'd "improve" the combat, they'd strip the RPG side of the game just like they did with ME3. Auto-dialogues ftw!

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Random Geth wrote...

Terror_K wrote...

And what magical, mystical "gameplay improvements" would these be?


You know, the ones that are visible for people not wearing nostalgia goggles so tightly that they're causing physical damage.

This. As flawed as Mass Effect 3 is it got on thing right (or did better).

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brettc893 wrote...

Oh, are we going to pretend that ME1's broken, illconcieved Gameplay is a billion times better then 3's Terror?

Pretty sure there's a Disingenuous Assertion joke in here somewhere.


Hey, I've admitted they nailed the combat in ME3. Level design was good too.

But the cooooossst!

Pretty much everything that wasn't combat-related in ME3 was a massive step-down, and that was, IMO, the stuff that mattered about Mass Effect. Without it, all we have is a generic TPS with the only thing stopping it from being completely humdrum the classes and powers. And even they suffered from "combat-itis."

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Terror_K wrote...

And what magical, mystical "gameplay improvements" would these be?


Well a major one was if your shots fired from your guns would hit the target or not. In ME2 and 3 you generally hit what you are aiming at, if the target is in your crosshairs when you shoot you will hit them. In ME1 you can line up a shot but it was an old-school dice roll behind the scenes also helping determine if you hit. A little bit of BioWares roots with DnD rules.

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Terror_K wrote...

brettc893 wrote...

Oh, are we going to pretend that ME1's broken, illconcieved Gameplay is a billion times better then 3's Terror?

Pretty sure there's a Disingenuous Assertion joke in here somewhere.


Hey, I've admitted they nailed the combat in ME3. Level design was good too.


Subpar shooter gameplay and linear levels?

Mass Effect 3's combat is only good when compared to ME/ME2's. Otherwise, it's decent, at best.

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Beep Il wrote...

I think ME combat is just fine. Besides, ME was never a shooter. I play ME since it's a RPG not a shooter. If they'd "improve" the combat, they'd strip the RPG side of the game just like they did with ME3. Auto-dialogues ftw!


You do hit on a good point, Mass Effect felt like an RPG-shooter, ME2 and 3 feel more akin to Shooter-RPGs. If that makes any sense.

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Beep Il wrote...

Besides, ME was never a shooter.

That's a lie.

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HammerFists wrote...

Beep Il wrote...

I think ME combat is just fine. Besides, ME was never a shooter. I play ME since it's a RPG not a shooter. If they'd "improve" the combat, they'd strip the RPG side of the game just like they did with ME3. Auto-dialogues ftw!


You do hit on a good point, Mass Effect felt like an RPG-shooter, ME2 and 3 feel more akin to Shooter-RPGs. If that makes any sense.


Action RPG as opposed to an action game with RPG elements?

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I'd rather see ME1 gameplay balanced and improved than replaced by ME3 gameplay.

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jreezy wrote...

Beep Il wrote...

Besides, ME was never a shooter.

That's a lie.


Granted, it had shooter elements, but the game wasn't primarily a shooter like ME3 tries to be.

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Maderek wrote...

HammerFists wrote...

Beep Il wrote...

I think ME combat is just fine. Besides, ME was never a shooter. I play ME since it's a RPG not a shooter. If they'd "improve" the combat, they'd strip the RPG side of the game just like they did with ME3. Auto-dialogues ftw!


You do hit on a good point, Mass Effect felt like an RPG-shooter, ME2 and 3 feel more akin to Shooter-RPGs. If that makes any sense.


Action RPG as opposed to an action game with RPG elements?


That is perhaps a better way to put it.

Wulfram wrote...

I'd rather see ME1 gameplay balanced and improved than replaced by ME3 gameplay.


Also probably a better way to put it than how I worded it. I don't necessarily mean take ME1 story and plug it into ME3s engine, but more like a mulligan with ME1. Can reduce some of the extraneous backtracking through a level, cleanup the inventory without gutting it like in ME2, etc.

Modifié par HammerFists, 22 mai 2012 - 11:25 .


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I'd definitely buy something like your describing OP but knowing EA...

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Its easy to say ME3 has better gameplay, but it has no variety. All it has is combat And there isnt even much variety in that respect.

Yes 3 has improved combat but ME1 has variety. If you made ME1 play like 3 youd be worse of for it.

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Harmless Crunch wrote...

I'd definitely buy something like your describing OP but knowing EA...


EA doesn't own the rights to ME1 . . . . Microsoft does

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If they remade ME1 they'd probably add heat sinks. Which ive hated in both 2 and 3. The only thing wrong with ME1 is the over mechanics. I put in me2 yesterday and got destroyed because I was trying to vault over objects and move cover to cover with "A" haha.

I loved the mako. I would just make the planets more visually appealing.

In all. I'd welcome an upgrade in a few years. But be careful what you wish for

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I'd be okay with a remastering. Maybe not making it exactly like ME3, but standardised graphics and controls would be nice. Its weird moving between ME1 and ME2 - the controls are completely different (on PC anyway).

Only if ME3 is improved first though. That's the priority. But if its done, then I'd be very happy with a remastered ME1. Heck, to be honest I might be okay with a remastered ME2 as well.