Seriously, I cannot emphasize enough how much I despised Dragon Age II because of the preset Hawke. What I mean by preset is that, the story is already written for you, you as the player just unfold the story.
In Dragon Age: Origins you're pretty much in charge of the entire story.
I wan't to see different races, different origins and classes/specializations that are contrasting from the other.
I really thought DAII was a step back from Origins. One of the main reasons I love that game was because of the amount of replay value and how the NPCs reacted to you if you were of different race or even class for that matter.
No time to get into real details.
PRESET SUCKS!
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Posté 22 mai 2012 - 01:18
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While I agree with you on Hawke being preset, you might be starting a HUGE ****storm with DA2 fanbros.
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Posté 22 mai 2012 - 04:38
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As I see it, you played a pre-set story in Origins as well. The Human Noble didn't have the choice to NOT have his/her family slaughtered by the Howes. The Dwarf Commoner didn't choose NOT to work for Beraht and try to fix the Proving. If you were a mage, you had to be a Circle mage — there was no "apostate" or "Dalish Keeper" option.
Most people only finish the game once. Most people who played DAO stuck with Human Noble. I myself only6 played one character to completion in DAO. (I tried through the other origins to see if I liked them, decided I prefered the CE origin and abandoned the other characters before or just after Ostagar.) What did multiple origins really do for me, or the other great unwashed masses?
Most people only finish the game once. Most people who played DAO stuck with Human Noble. I myself only6 played one character to completion in DAO. (I tried through the other origins to see if I liked them, decided I prefered the CE origin and abandoned the other characters before or just after Ostagar.) What did multiple origins really do for me, or the other great unwashed masses?
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Posté 22 mai 2012 - 05:17
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It gave you the possibility to play that CE of yours, me to play a Dalish (and a CE, and a Cousland, and a Surana), and player X to play a dwarf. Without them, we'd all have been stuck with Human Noble or something equivalent.thats1evildude wrote...
As I see it, you played a pre-set story in Origins as well. The Human Noble didn't have the choice to NOT have his/her family slaughtered by the Howes. The Dwarf Commoner didn't choose NOT to work for Beraht and try to fix the Proving. If you were a mage, you had to be a Circle mage — there was no "apostate" or "Dalish Keeper" option.
Most people only finish the game once. Most people who played DAO stuck with Human Noble. I myself only6 played one character to completion in DAO. (I tried through the other origins to see if I liked them, decided I prefered the CE origin and abandoned the other characters before or just after Ostagar.) What did multiple origins really do for me, or the great unwashed masses?
I agree with your first paragraph, though.
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Posté 22 mai 2012 - 05:28
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The feeling I get is that the devs are a little overly dismissive of the concept of "replayability" after studying the metrics of DAO/ME2 that showed that less than half of players actually finished the game. But I think replayability is a more valuable quality to gamers than they give it credit for. There's a reason "NG+" exists. If you give gamers a product that offers the opportunity to have an enjoyable experience for twice or three times (or thirty-five times, if you're really into it) the amount of "gameplay hours" listed on the box for one playthrough, they don't need to actually take advantage of that opportunity to see the value in it.
Part of the loss of replayability, for me, I think, comes from the lack of origins and lack of different "perspectives" to put myself in (even if the changes to dialog are superficial after Ostagar, it does give a different "feel"). The other part would be reduced variety in gameplay (specs, talents, equipment, encounters).
Part of the loss of replayability, for me, I think, comes from the lack of origins and lack of different "perspectives" to put myself in (even if the changes to dialog are superficial after Ostagar, it does give a different "feel"). The other part would be reduced variety in gameplay (specs, talents, equipment, encounters).
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Posté 22 mai 2012 - 05:32
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The player had full controll of the story in DAO? LOL
Modifié par Mr.House, 22 mai 2012 - 05:33 .
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Posté 22 mai 2012 - 05:48
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I don't think DAO gave us full control of the story, but it definitely gave us more choices and options than DA2.
DAO gave us different races, different origins, different dialogue options, different ways to complete most quests, lasting consequences for player actions, different endings, etc. (Not to mention being given the freedom to choose your motivation for doing the things you do and being treated differently depending on your race, gender or class, which is essential from a RP perspective.)
Much better than DA2's one race, one origin, three set dialogue choices, only one or two ways to complete most quests, most quests turning out the same no matter what you do, one ending, etc. (Not to mention having your motivations chosen for you, and being treated exactly the same regardless of your gender and class, which decreases RP value and breaks immersion since other NPC's get treated differently for their race, gender and class while you aren't.)
DAO gave us different races, different origins, different dialogue options, different ways to complete most quests, lasting consequences for player actions, different endings, etc. (Not to mention being given the freedom to choose your motivation for doing the things you do and being treated differently depending on your race, gender or class, which is essential from a RP perspective.)
Much better than DA2's one race, one origin, three set dialogue choices, only one or two ways to complete most quests, most quests turning out the same no matter what you do, one ending, etc. (Not to mention having your motivations chosen for you, and being treated exactly the same regardless of your gender and class, which decreases RP value and breaks immersion since other NPC's get treated differently for their race, gender and class while you aren't.)
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Posté 22 mai 2012 - 09:01
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