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[ReallyRue]

 I'm just wondering what people's opinions would be on this. Asunder really seems to be setting the stage for DA3, with Fiona and Rhys being prominent figures in the mage resistance. How likely do you think it would be that they (or Evangeline/Cole/someone from The Silent Grove) might have some role in the next game?

[brushyourteeth]

Cole seems likely. I imagine us needing to track him down in order to get help or information from him. Maybe to kill him.

I asked Mr. Gaider once about Fiona and he gave me kind of a "wait and see" - but just because they might be planning to incorporate her now doesn't guarantee she'll actually make the cut. She's the Arch Mage though, so she'd definitely make sense. I'd like to see what color her hair actually is - it's different at the end of "The Calling" than it is at the beginning.

And Maker, I'd love the chance to punch Adrian in the face...

[Aleya]

This does seem to be a new trend for Bioware. After all, while we don't *need* to read the background material, it would certainly *encourage* people to buy non-game DA stuff. Hip hip hooray for the new marketing strategy!

Given their track record (Kai Leng), I strongly strongly suspect it will happen and am not at all enthusiastic about it.

[ReallyRue]

brushyourteeth wrote...

Cole seems likely. I imagine us needing to track him down in order to get help or information from him. Maybe to kill him.

I asked Mr. Gaider once about Fiona and he gave me kind of a "wait and see" - but just because they might be planning to incorporate her now doesn't guarantee she'll actually make the cut. She's the Arch Mage though, so she'd definitely make sense. I'd like to see what color her hair actually is - it's different at the end of "The Calling" than it is at the beginning.

And Maker, I'd love the chance to punch Adrian in the face...

It would be good to see him. I'm not sure exactly how he'd tie into the over all theme of the mage/templar war (assuming that's what DA3 will be about), but he's far too interesting a character for his story to end with Asunder.

Hmm, I'd say that makes her the most likely of the book characters to appear, if it was an evasive answer rather than a straight-up no. I imagine our character will have to go and find the mages at that fortress (forgotten the name) at some point, so it would surely involve meeting Fiona, even if not Rhys.

Oh, I'd be up for punching Adrian. Perhaps repeatedly. Though I imagine on my playthroughs where Anders survives, the pair of them would get along famously.

@Aleya, I'd hope that they would do it better than Kai Leng. 

Modifié par ReallyRue, 22 mai 2012 - 08:29 .

[brushyourteeth]

I didn't even realize Kai Leng was a book character - wow.

So at least if Bioware's up for incorporating book characters into games, they've proven that they know how to do it without making the books required reading. And there will be codex entries I'm sure for people who want to know more.

I'm really glad I'm not the only one that's up for some Adrian punching! We should start a club. Please, M-Law, let Adrian be our DA Khalisa Al-Jilani?

Modifié par brushyourteeth, 22 mai 2012 - 08:44 .

[Aleya]

The terrible thing about Kai Leng is that he's actually really interesting in the books. He's the anti-Shepard. The guy who's just as tough, intelligent, and resourceful, but was just a tad too fond of violence for the Alliance and voluntarily defected to Cerberus.

What did we get in ME3? A space ninja who wins by Power of Cutscene and writes trolling emails. That's why I'm worried :/

[cogsandcurls]

I think the chances we're going to see Fiona are astronomically high, since she's now in a position of extreme influence in a faction that's (apparently?) going to have a big global impact on the future of Thedas. I'm really looking forward to it, as I think Fiona is great.

Cole, again, seems likely. I've said before I'd like him as a companion but I'm sort of more expecting him to turn up as the focal point of a sidequest. I don't know about the others, though. I'd like to see Evangeline again.

[5trangeCase]

I have no idea why we would see Cole again. I would have thought he would have dissipated and returned to the Fade. I saw the final scene as a "last hurrah" for his character, not a message that he was still about.

Evangeline, in my opinion, is almost certainly going to appear in the next game. As a companion? Maybe, but she will definitely be there.

Why?

1) She is unique, she is the only Templar supporting the mages and perhaps the key to restoring order between the two.

2) Wynne talked about a destiny, a reason she was brought back to life. And when she revived Evangeline, she decided that this, not killing the archdemon, was the destiny she was meant for. That basically assures her significance.

I would not want to see Rhys nor Cole, the former because I don't particularly like his character and the latter because I'd like to think he has found peace.

[MissOuJ]

I'd love to see Cole in the next DA game. Not so sure about Rhys/Evangeline; maybe? They didn't really endear themselves to me like Cole did, but it'd be nice to see them anyway. Having Fiona would be absolutely awesome. Also, party banter between Evangeline and Fiona would most probably be solid gold (with a bit of Rhys'/Varric's sarcastic comments on the side). Evangeline seems a likely future companion though: she's Orlesian, and a pro-mage Templar, which fits what little information we have about DAIII's narrative to a T - plus Wynne's words in the end of Asunder. Yeah, she'll most likely be either a new companion of a very significant NPC.

Actually, gameplaywise, Cole would be a very interesting companion - what class would he be, for starters? He isn't really a mage, and definitedly not a warrior or a rogue, either. It could be very interesting...

[ReallyRue]

5trangeCase wrote...
1) She is unique, she is the only Templar supporting the mages and perhaps the key to restoring order between the two.

I find that really unlikely, personally. She's the only one we've heard about, but I'm sure the other Circle templars have their Thrasks and Kerans that will want to help the mages.

@MissOuJ, actually, I think it wouldn't be that unlikely for Cole to be a unique rogue (in the same way that Evangeline would be a unique warrior), seeing has he already has a fondness for daggers, stealth, turning invisible and lightning-fast attacks. I see him being more like the equivalent of Justice as a warrior.

Modifié par ReallyRue, 24 mai 2012 - 08:49 .

[MissOuJ]

ReallyRue wrote...
@MissOuJ, actually, I think it wouldn't be that unlikely for Cole to be a unique rogue (in the same way that Evangeline would be a unique warrior), seeing has he already has a fondness for daggers, stealth, turning invisible and lightning-fast attacks. I see him being more like the equivalent of Justice as a warrior.

Yeah, that could be, since he seems to be atleast somewhat familiar with pointy objects, and his stealth skills would be pretty awesome. Actually, he could also be an Archane Warrior Rogue kinda mixed-class fighter, if DAIII ends up having a bit more laxed class restrictions than DAII. Altho it'll only work with proper AI... I remember playing Archane Warrior mage in DAO and every. single. time I turned my head she'd ditched her staff and run to kick an Emissary in the shins with her daggers/sword. Same with Leliana who I had spec'ed to be an archer and only archer.

[ReallyRue]

MissOuJ wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...
@MissOuJ, actually, I think it wouldn't be that unlikely for Cole to be a unique rogue (in the same way that Evangeline would be a unique warrior), seeing has he already has a fondness for daggers, stealth, turning invisible and lightning-fast attacks. I see him being more like the equivalent of Justice as a warrior.

Yeah, that could be, since he seems to be atleast somewhat familiar with pointy objects, and his stealth skills would be pretty awesome. Actually, he could also be an Archane Warrior Rogue kinda mixed-class fighter, if DAIII ends up having a bit more laxed class restrictions than DAII. Altho it'll only work with proper AI... I remember playing Archane Warrior mage in DAO and every. single. time I turned my head she'd ditched her staff and run to kick an Emissary in the shins with her daggers/sword. Same with Leliana who I had spec'ed to be an archer and only archer.

Hah, that sounds familiar! 

True, the AI would need to be good. Last thing I'd want is Cole 'disappearing' during combat... and then never appearing until it's over. Or at all. Reminds me of my attempts to set up Anders' tactics in DA2, and including 'martyr'. He either spams it to the exclusion of all else, or he doesn't use it at all. 'Arcane Rogue' seems like it'd be good for him if anything like DAO's AW, because it doesn't use any obvious 'spells', for one thing.

[Kidd]

Fiona is very, very likely. So is Evangeline I believe. Rhys not as much. Heck, I can imagine Fiona being an important NPC while Evangeline might be a companion.

Cole... either as a sidequest thing, or a pretty important main plot thing. I have this theory that "Cole" will be within Lambert's body in DA3. If not, I'm not sure how relevant he'd be.

Modifié par KiddDaBeauty, 24 mai 2012 - 11:01 .

[jmk1999]

i'm a big fan of evangeline. i think her unique characteristics come the end of the book would pretty cool (spirit warrior/templar?). also, i think she'd be a cool romanceable. i liked rhys and all, but i don't think he's all that special by comparison. she needs to dump him... or maybe he'll die... i don't know.

[Asch Lavigne]

As long as they fill those who don't read the books in on who these characters are I don't see a problem. DA and ME are starting to get way too "if you didn't read this or play that then its your fault you're a little lost."

[Reznore57]

I'm pretty sure we will see some character from Asunder in DA3.Who ,i don't know.
We don't know when DA3 will take place ,I don't think it will be just after the asunder event.
About having them for companion , i like the idea of having a couple around like Evangeline and Rhys.
Companions who have personal life outside of our pc reach is always nice.
As for Cole i wouldn't mind if he's something a bit different than spirit/demon.I read on DAwiki theories about him being a lost soul.
That would be cool.

As for the Marketting thing , I don't know ...DA is not ME.
All books have been written by David Gaider , and I always felt it was more about putting ideas in pages that he couldn't put in the game.
I also read that the DA team was thinking about having some else writing books in the future ...I'm kinda scared because sometimes hired authors ruin the lore or are just plain bad.

I remember with World of Warcraft, they had one female writer who was kinda good, sadly a lot of very important event were put in the book and barely mention in game.It felt stupid.
And they had a very bad writer , who create a number of characters with the heaviest plot armor/superman syndrome i ever witness , and we had to suffer them in game...

So if they take that route and hired author , I hope they're gonna be cautious about it.

[FaeQueenCory]

Dear LORD! I hope they are!

Especially Yavana!

Really.... Everyone else can be excluded... (Though given the Mage vs Templar vs Seeker vs Chantry World War nature of DA3... I don't see how.)
But NOT Yavana.

I only want more Yavana and Flemeth... Oh, and I suppose Morrigan can come back and finish whatever the hells she was on about.... But only if her sisters get to be there too!

[Kidd]

Reznore57 wrote...

About having them for companion , i like the idea of having a couple around like Evangeline and Rhys.
Companions who have personal life outside of our pc reach is always nice.

That's true. Somewhat of a throwback to Jaheira and Khalid. Loved having them =)

Reznore57 wrote... 

I also read that the DA team was thinking about having some else writing books in the future ...I'm kinda scared because sometimes hired authors ruin the lore or are just plain bad.

I remember with World of Warcraft, they had one female writer who was kinda good, sadly a lot of very important event were put in the book and barely mention in game.It felt stupid.
And they had a very bad writer , who create a number of characters with the heaviest plot armor/superman syndrome i ever witness , and we had to suffer them in game...

So if they take that route and hired author , I hope they're gonna be cautious about it.

I'd be very, very wary of non-BioWare writers touching the books. Mass Effect Deception didn't just ignore and contradict the lore completely, it wasn't very good as a stand-alone adventure either. Since I've always liked the DA books better than the ME ones though, I'm more than a tad worried how a "Dragon Age Deception" would fare.

As for the writer of WoW books, do you mean Christie Golden? I always got the feeling Blizzard knew she was well-liked (and with good reason) and asked her to fill in plot gaps, holes and contradictions to make a - while convoluted - functional universe out of it all. In the midst of this she tried her darndest, put out some good books only to have Blizzard completely forget about her explanations in the next game/expansion any way. Talk about treating a hard working writer wrong >_<