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i think the being of light theory makes more sense really

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Did Chris make a poll here?

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Tazzmission wrote...

i think the being of light theory makes more sense really


Sigh, it came from "visions" from an "eccentric" Volus who never found anything. Besides, it was concluded years ago that "beings of light" is referring to Prothean V.I.'s.

There is only one catalyst, the "s" on beings indicates that there is more than one. Yet there is only one catalyst.

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It would exist in my universe, just like Project Rho, I just wouldn't know because I haven't downloaded it.

There's the problem, it undermines every ending and every universe by making them all dreams regardless of whether or not you download the DLC. It's not a case of "Well my universe wasn't a dream" it's a case of "Well my universe is a dream I just never downloaded the DLC that makes me realise this". You know like Project Rho? It exists in every universe regardless of whether or not you download it.


The objects exist, actions do not. In your Shepard's experience, regardless of which of the current ending choices or EC, he/she defeated the reapers. It only undermines it if you let it.

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balance5050 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i think the being of light theory makes more sense really


Sigh, it came from "visions" from an "eccentric" Volus who never found anything. Besides, it was concluded years ago that "beings of light" is referring to Prothean V.I.'s.

There is only one catalyst, the "s" on beings indicates that there is more than one. Yet there is only one catalyst.



to be fair though he may be the only one we know of also remembe rin me2 when you chat with garrus he states i pity whoever comes after the reapers so heres the question is he refering to a higher power such as a being of light or another enemey stronger than the reapers?

i found this in another thread and its really interesting and makes more sense then the idoc theory

ive seen a video before on the same subject but this one go's into more detail

http://www.youtube.c...?v=3Ascb79jqfo#

Modifié par Tazzmission, 23 mai 2012 - 04:48 .


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Hmm... Interesting.

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Tazzmission wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i think the being of light theory makes more sense really


Sigh, it came from "visions" from an "eccentric" Volus who never found anything. Besides, it was concluded years ago that "beings of light" is referring to Prothean V.I.'s.

There is only one catalyst, the "s" on beings indicates that there is more than one. Yet there is only one catalyst.



to be fair though he may be the only one we know of also remembe rin me2 when you chat with garrus he states i pity whoever comes after the reapers so heres the question is he refering to a higher power such as a being of light or another enemey stronger than the reapers?

i found this in another thread and its really interesting and makes more sense then the idoc theory

ive seen a video before on the same subject but this one go's into more detail

http://www.youtube.c...?v=3Ascb79jqfo#


Sorry, the only "in-game" evidence is "Visions seen by an eccentric Volus". Not nearly enough foreshadowing to be taken seriously.

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I think it's bad to make a poll about such a question. Mainly because the voting can turn into this:

1) Yes. I believe in it.

2) No, but I hate the ending, and if clicking this might make you guys consider making a real ending where I beat the Reapers, and live happily ever after with my LI without killing the Geth and EDI, then I'm clicking yes.

3) No.

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balance5050 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

i think the being of light theory makes more sense really


Sigh, it came from "visions" from an "eccentric" Volus who never found anything. Besides, it was concluded years ago that "beings of light" is referring to Prothean V.I.'s.

There is only one catalyst, the "s" on beings indicates that there is more than one. Yet there is only one catalyst.



to be fair though he may be the only one we know of also remembe rin me2 when you chat with garrus he states i pity whoever comes after the reapers so heres the question is he refering to a higher power such as a being of light or another enemey stronger than the reapers?

i found this in another thread and its really interesting and makes more sense then the idoc theory

ive seen a video before on the same subject but this one go's into more detail

http://www.youtube.c...?v=3Ascb79jqfo#


Sorry, the only "in-game" evidence is "Visions seen by an eccentric Volus". Not nearly enough foreshadowing to be taken seriously.



and same can be stated for idoc theory

so far i havent come across any proof to back it up

the being of light theory is more possible because  if you notice real closley theres a ton of religious over tones in the game itself

now heres the big 1 million dollar question

what if the being of light is guiding shepard after being knocked out in his or her subconcious?

that could explain the breath scene and as for the dreams what if the catalyst is showing shepard the weapon that he/she is building to defeat the reapers lead to his/her death?

notice how the kid runs fast wile shep runs slow

now if you go back to the first earth scene where the boy dies why dosent anybody help the kid? could this be the being of light messing with shepards head similar to that volus?

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Does anyone else get the feeling that while IT may not be directly used as a "yes this is what is happening at the end of ME3" idea. It will be hinted at as a plausible possibility in the extended cut. In other words they may not directly say the end was all an indoctrinated illusion but will drop more "hints" to make coming to that conclusion not a far fetched idea.

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 @Tazzmission
"and same can be stated for idoc theory
so far i havent come across any proof to back it up"

LOL! You lost me bud....

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DrDark101 wrote...

Does anyone else get the feeling that while IT may not be directly used as a "yes this is what is happening at the end of ME3" idea. It will be hinted at as a plausible possibility in the extended cut. In other words they may not directly say the end was all an indoctrinated illusion but will drop more "hints" to make coming to that conclusion not a far fetched idea.

I really hope not and don't think it will either. The IT always anticipated the real ending was still to come. Doing what you suggest means that the game would not have an ending at all. They have also stated that they will clarify, not make things murkier.

Modifié par Malanek999, 23 mai 2012 - 05:26 .


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Velocithon wrote...

I don't get why he does that stuff there and not here. Perhaps because this is the "official" forums he can't do stuff like that here? But elsewhere he can...?


This. I'm glad that Bioware is interacting with the fans but why not here, their official forums where a lot more people might provide input?:?

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What an absolutely pointless s thing to ask. I can't think of a reason as to why they'd ask this, unless I put my retard cap on.

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I don't know why he asked this question. In my point of view, since the last sprint, and Shapard went into the light.....the whole ending was just a big hallucination. They made it in IT mode. What happened on the Citadel was just ridiculous.

Anyway, they have artistic integrity can explain everything.

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RocketManSR2 wrote...

One IT poll coming right up.

social.bioware.com/870115/polls/34235/


social.bioware.com/3741137/polls/33993/

this is my poll from a few days ago
more options, but you might be interested in taking a look

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Gibb_Shepard wrote...



What an absolutely pointless s thing to ask. I can't think of a reason as to why they'd ask this, unless I put my retard cap on.


haha

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Tazzmission wrote...

i think the being of light theory makes more sense really



Yeah....in a completely stupid sense lol

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People complain about the IT not actually being an ending....no ****!


Which is why its so amazingly great! Because it means the 10 minutes of lazy, uncreative, nonsensical writing wasn't the ending and the actually ending is still to come, which means : There's a chance for Bioware to make an Epic ending.....because the one we got was anticlimactic as ****!


How could you.people not want this?


Who cares if its not an ending....IT means he wakes up and finishes the fight....and if it were to be implemented, nobody would know how exactly it would actually end except for Bioware.....the point is: it can still be Good....there's still a chance....


Then people complain, well if IT is true, then only Destroy is correct and it renders the other two.choices pointless....wahhh wah wah....

Um no...I say that bull****.....nobody knows what happens.when.Shepard wakes up....he could wake up in every ending(with it only being shown in Destroy as an Easter egg), and finish the fight and the subconcious choice could still play some part in the actual "real" ending....to what effect....who knows?

People complain IT isn't an ending....you're right, but it gives hope that a more fitting ending is still to come......and besides, the last 10 minutes we currently have, is anything but an ending or conclusion in any manner or sort.....

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Couldn't agree more, if I have to take IT with a pinch of salt to allow BW to finish strong then so be it. I'm not rabidly IT but I do think it just shows how much people are desperate to hope that we're not done with ME yet.

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I think it's bad to make a poll about such a question. Mainly because the voting can turn into this:

1) Yes. I believe in it.

2) No, but I hate the ending, and if clicking this might make you guys consider making a real ending where I beat the Reapers, and live happily ever after with my LI without killing the Geth and EDI, then I'm clicking yes.

3) No.


Exactly this. That was the first thing I thought too when reading it (and yes, I'm would choose 2 if I had that option).

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Mcfly616 wrote...

People complain about the IT not actually being an ending....no ****!


Which is why its so amazingly great! Because it means the 10 minutes of lazy, uncreative, nonsensical writing wasn't the ending and the actually ending is still to come, which means : There's a chance for Bioware to make an Epic ending.....because the one we got was anticlimactic as ****!


How could you.people not want this?


Who cares if its not an ending....IT means he wakes up and finishes the fight....and if it were to be implemented, nobody would know how exactly it would actually end except for Bioware.....the point is: it can still be Good....there's still a chance....


Then people complain, well if IT is true, then only Destroy is correct and it renders the other two.choices pointless....wahhh wah wah....

Um no...I say that bull****.....nobody knows what happens.when.Shepard wakes up....he could wake up in every ending(with it only being shown in Destroy as an Easter egg), and finish the fight and the subconcious choice could still play some part in the actual "real" ending....to what effect....who knows?

People complain IT isn't an ending....you're right, but it gives hope that a more fitting ending is still to come......and besides, the last 10 minutes we currently have, is anything but an ending or conclusion in any manner or sort.....


Yep ... The ending is not IT, but IT allows BW to keep what they have, and then create an ending the trilogy deserves.

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no it por favor if bioware was to retcon the ending(which i doubt)they could do better than it was all a dream, if was forced to write that i would troll everyone and make the last two games hallucinations in sheps head after the collector attack

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considering that the current ending is IT then it is the best way for Bioware to create a good new ending

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Since EC should be in production ATM and that means right now it is the time for pre-production of future content, maybe Priestly doing research for a post-EC DLC.