legaldinho wrote...
The worst thing about it, is how personally IT detractors take the theory, so that if it were alluded to even further in the DLC, they would take umbrage; some have said that would be the end of Bioware. Others expressed that the particular slant of the further content would mean they have had even less of an ending.
It's embarassing. Angry fans have turned on other fans who have been generously interpreting hints in the game. Some IT proponents unfortunately take things too far, believing theirs is the only interpretation of the game's narrative. Or that Bioware are geniuses.
Bioware are not geniuses. Paul Verhooven is a genius. He directed a film which was open to two simultaneous interpretations, one face-value, another that after a particular moment what we see played out is Arnie's fantasy. I firmly believe that Bioware tried to do the same. Hint at indoctrination, while giving us a face value ending. So I believe in IT; it's a valid interpretation of the narrative. It does not mean there is no ending. This is fiction. There is an ending, and the question is what it means. How you interpret it.
What went worng, is that the face-value ending, the RGB, the ME3 equivalent of Arnie rolling down the Mars hills while they arebeing terraformed, is botched. It simply was not in keeping with the unfolding of the narrative. It wasn't divorced from it, but it still came out of the blue.
In order for IT to work properly, effectively, for people who are told about it to go "wow" even if they didn't spot it first time, for it to be a valid fictional device, it requires a believable face value ending. The extended cut DLC, I believe, will try to patch that (with varying degrees of success) and provide a firm nod to IT.
None of you will be satisfied. Because you are turning on each other like mangy dogs. Hence why I said, if I were Bioware, I'd be embarassed to count you among my hardcore fans. Get your act together.
Why are you generalizing IT detractors but use "some" to refer to the minority of pro-ITers who have taken things too far? Plus the entire last 4 sentences generalizes all IT detractors as acting like mangy dogs and is pretty insulting. I'm quite disappointed by the tone of this post, despite some good points made.
Now back on topic: Once again, I preface by saying I'm not an IT believer in that I don't think BW planned it but I'd like them to run with it which would allow them to essentially redo the ending.
My reason for not believe in IT is meta. It has less to do with what was or was not hinted at in game and more to do with what Bioware would do. IF IT was intended then there are 3 possibilities for what BW was
planning on doing:
1) Release paid ending DLC at a later date to verify IT;
2) Release free ending DLC at a later date to verify IT;
3) Release nothing related to the ending and leave it ambiguous for all time.
If they were going to do 1, they would have been skewered in the media for selling an unfinished product. It would be an extremely bad PR move, much worse than Day 1 DLC. Granted there is precedent, but I don't think BW would've been stupid enough to charge for that.
In regards to 2, I personally think that Mr. Muzyka's statement makes it clear that EC was not originally planned but was being released due to fan response. So the idea that they were
originally planning to release free ending DLC goes out the window.
So that only leaves option 3. BW planned to release an ambiguous ending that could be interpreted with IT but with no confirmation from them ever. BW would have to keep mum about it because even acknowledging that they intended it would give credence to IT as the only true ending, thus giving ME3 the only ending that Shepard failed to save the universe. Not acknowledging it means they leave the door open to interpretation and people can see either one as the true ending (IT or non-IT). The problem is, this sort of approach doesn't work unless both endings can somehow be satisfying in their own right. In this case, is IT satisfying to the player if it is never elaborated on? If you believe the game ends with him waking up, then the reaper conflict and Shepard's fate are still up in the air. The story never really ended. Taking the ending at face value meant you were left with an illogical mess.
I want to contrast this with the ending to Inception (spoiler alert). People can choose to believe Cobb woke up and had a happy ending with his family or that he was dreaming this up. Either ending is satisfying because they both make sense and the importance of the final scene wasn't whether what he was experiencing was real or not. The important point was he didn't care whether it was real or not.
Since options 1, 2, and 3 are the only choices BW had if they planned IT all along, and none of these choices make sense to me, I'm unconvinced that IT was planned from the beginning. That wouldn't stop BW from stating otherwise if they do end up releasing EC confirming IT since IT solves a boatload of their problems.
To close, I don't believe in IT but that's my opinion. If you do, that's fine too.
Modifié par mmmpollo, 24 mai 2012 - 06:17 .
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