Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
...I wish I could get some rose tinted glasses so I couldn't see the obvious rush job after Tuchanka.Persephone wrote...
Rajalia wrote...
Bioware put out a subpar product based on the statements they themselves made, yes. .
Subpar? Subpar?
I sure wish there were more "subpar" games then. No, really.
boymurder wrote...
t_skwerl wrote...
*shrug* <-- how they should reply to that. Zealotry generally won't get you anywhere. I hate the endings with the rage and fury of a billion burning suns myself, but that kind of thing is just... not how you affect any kind of change. You simply take your money elsewhere.
isn't that basically what they were saying though? if there aren't new endings then they will take their money elsewhere, it would be hard to affect change on the EC after it comes out so they warn of voting with their wallets before they do it.
Simply liking something doesn't mean it wasn't rushed.Persephone wrote...
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
...I wish I could get some rose tinted glasses so I couldn't see the obvious rush job after Tuchanka.Persephone wrote...
Rajalia wrote...
Bioware put out a subpar product based on the statements they themselves made, yes. .
Subpar? Subpar?
I sure wish there were more "subpar" games then. No, really.
Several of my fave moments are past Tuchanka. So, yeah, no need for that.<_<
Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 23 mai 2012 - 05:00 .
Maybe not one, but 65k or more?Subguy614 wrote...
I fail to see how stating one will not purchase BW products in the future is in any way a THREAT.
Seems more of a statement of personal intent to which a company who sold over 3 million ME3 copies can say, "So?"
It's like losing a skin cell for them....they won't even notice.
Persephone wrote...
boymurder wrote...
If we 'wait and see' on the EC and it doesn't address the issues people have, then what?
Do people really think EA will be willing to provide bioware with funding for another chance at ending DLC? hell no, they'll move on to paid for DLC instead.
The guy(s) that gave the ultimatum are afraid that extended ending won't be able to fix the ending adequately and by the time they get to see EC it will be too late to have input. EC is going to be make or break for a lot of people after the recent disappointments from bioware. These people don't want to threaten bioware but to let them know the consequences or their choices.
It's not going to change anything. EC is a compromise. More than most companies offer, in fact. I have yet to see Lionhead Studios deliver on ANY promise. Or deliver a satisfying ending. Ever. Or the now defunct company that made the Gothic IV....want a dreadful ending, a full game filled with plot holes, NO choices, a horrid combat system etc. Play that. Then you'll see what plot holes, no choices and dreadful endings actually are.
boymurder wrote...
If we 'wait and see' on the EC and it doesn't address the issues people have, then what?
Do people really think EA will be willing to provide bioware with funding for another chance at ending DLC? hell no, they'll move on to paid for DLC instead.
The guy(s) that gave the ultimatum are afraid that extended ending won't be able to fix the ending adequately and by the time they get to see EC it will be too late to have input. EC is going to be make or break for a lot of people after the recent disappointments from bioware. These people don't want to threaten bioware but to let them know the consequences or their choices.
boymurder wrote...
Persephone wrote...
boymurder wrote...
If we 'wait and see' on the EC and it doesn't address the issues people have, then what?
Do people really think EA will be willing to provide bioware with funding for another chance at ending DLC? hell no, they'll move on to paid for DLC instead.
The guy(s) that gave the ultimatum are afraid that extended ending won't be able to fix the ending adequately and by the time they get to see EC it will be too late to have input. EC is going to be make or break for a lot of people after the recent disappointments from bioware. These people don't want to threaten bioware but to let them know the consequences or their choices.
It's not going to change anything. EC is a compromise. More than most companies offer, in fact. I have yet to see Lionhead Studios deliver on ANY promise. Or deliver a satisfying ending. Ever. Or the now defunct company that made the Gothic IV....want a dreadful ending, a full game filled with plot holes, NO choices, a horrid combat system etc. Play that. Then you'll see what plot holes, no choices and dreadful endings actually are.
Bethesda and CDProjeckt did it and the later is a much smaller company than bioware
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
Simply liking something doesn't mean it wasn't rushed.Persephone wrote...
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
...I wish I could get some rose tinted glasses so I couldn't see the obvious rush job after Tuchanka.Persephone wrote...
Rajalia wrote...
Bioware put out a subpar product based on the statements they themselves made, yes. .
Subpar? Subpar?
I sure wish there were more "subpar" games then. No, really.
Several of my fave moments are past Tuchanka. So, yeah, no need for that.<_<
Also before you use the gem " not liking it doesn't mean it's rushed" you're absolutely correct, however the sudden plunge in quality does.
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Neither is kissing their gilded behinds and telling them that they're doing a good job when they clearly aren't.Tazzmission wrote...
Taboo-XX wrote...
People are irrational when they get pissed.
Of course they are going to do stupid things.
like i stated before they need psychological help and are doing more damage instead of good
i can tell already alot ( not all) have basicly stated they wont accept the ec and imo thats fine but threatning isnt the way to get what they want
Persephone wrote...
boymurder wrote...
Persephone wrote...
boymurder wrote...
If we 'wait and see' on the EC and it doesn't address the issues people have, then what?
Do people really think EA will be willing to provide bioware with funding for another chance at ending DLC? hell no, they'll move on to paid for DLC instead.
The guy(s) that gave the ultimatum are afraid that extended ending won't be able to fix the ending adequately and by the time they get to see EC it will be too late to have input. EC is going to be make or break for a lot of people after the recent disappointments from bioware. These people don't want to threaten bioware but to let them know the consequences or their choices.
It's not going to change anything. EC is a compromise. More than most companies offer, in fact. I have yet to see Lionhead Studios deliver on ANY promise. Or deliver a satisfying ending. Ever. Or the now defunct company that made the Gothic IV....want a dreadful ending, a full game filled with plot holes, NO choices, a horrid combat system etc. Play that. Then you'll see what plot holes, no choices and dreadful endings actually are.
Bethesda and CDProjeckt did it and the later is a much smaller company than bioware
Bethseda did it as a paid DLC.
CDProject isn't much smaller, it's owned by a HUGE company AND it has GOG for financial backing. Not comparable AT ALL.
Rajalia wrote...
The plain and simple fact is the only true way to show discontent in a product is just as you said... when the next line of products come out whether it be DLC or entirely new games with the Bioware mark... players that are that furious over ME3 should simply stick to their guns and stay away from anything labeled Bioware.
boymurder wrote...
Persephone wrote...
boymurder wrote...
Persephone wrote...
boymurder wrote...
If we 'wait and see' on the EC and it doesn't address the issues people have, then what?
Do people really think EA will be willing to provide bioware with funding for another chance at ending DLC? hell no, they'll move on to paid for DLC instead.
The guy(s) that gave the ultimatum are afraid that extended ending won't be able to fix the ending adequately and by the time they get to see EC it will be too late to have input. EC is going to be make or break for a lot of people after the recent disappointments from bioware. These people don't want to threaten bioware but to let them know the consequences or their choices.
It's not going to change anything. EC is a compromise. More than most companies offer, in fact. I have yet to see Lionhead Studios deliver on ANY promise. Or deliver a satisfying ending. Ever. Or the now defunct company that made the Gothic IV....want a dreadful ending, a full game filled with plot holes, NO choices, a horrid combat system etc. Play that. Then you'll see what plot holes, no choices and dreadful endings actually are.
Bethesda and CDProjeckt did it and the later is a much smaller company than bioware
Bethseda did it as a paid DLC.
CDProject isn't much smaller, it's owned by a HUGE company AND it has GOG for financial backing. Not comparable AT ALL.
So you're saying EA are poor or don't care about the customers of Bioware.
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
Maybe not one, but 65k or more?Subguy614 wrote...
I fail to see how stating one will not purchase BW products in the future is in any way a THREAT.
Seems more of a statement of personal intent to which a company who sold over 3 million ME3 copies can say, "So?"
It's like losing a skin cell for them....they won't even notice.
matthewmi wrote...
CDProjeckt also took over a year to deliver a new ending. If the game wasn't being ported to the 360 I don't even think they would have invested as much into the newest release. They also own GOG.which is basically a revenue machine that allows them to work on other projects.
boymurder wrote...
matthewmi wrote...
CDProjeckt also took over a year to deliver a new ending. If the game wasn't being ported to the 360 I don't even think they would have invested as much into the newest release. They also own GOG.which is basically a revenue machine that allows them to work on other projects.
They had already done it with 1 before they released 2, and 1 wasn't ported. Also Origin? EA threw 300mil at TOR and sold 3mil+ copies of ME3. If Bioware said EC would take a year to deliver I'd wager people would still give it a chance. It would actually give me confidence that it won't be rushed.
Back with the glasses eh....if you can't see the recycled well...everything, the lack of polish, and no not just me, but many others.Persephone wrote...
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
Simply liking something doesn't mean it wasn't rushed.Persephone wrote...
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
...I wish I could get some rose tinted glasses so I couldn't see the obvious rush job after Tuchanka.Persephone wrote...
Rajalia wrote...
Bioware put out a subpar product based on the statements they themselves made, yes. .
Subpar? Subpar?
I sure wish there were more "subpar" games then. No, really.
Several of my fave moments are past Tuchanka. So, yeah, no need for that.<_<
Also before you use the gem " not liking it doesn't mean it's rushed" you're absolutely correct, however the sudden plunge in quality does.
Quality is subjective. Quality according to whom? You?
They did the samething with the first Witcher and that was not ported.matthewmi wrote...
CDProjeckt also took over a year to deliver a new ending. If the game wasn't being ported to the 360 I don't even think they would have invested as much into the newest release. They also own GOG.which is basically a revenue machine that allows them to work on other projects.
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
Back with the glasses eh....if you can't see the recycled well...everything, the lack of polish, and no not just me, but many others.Persephone wrote...
Quality is subjective. Quality according to whom? You?
Modifié par Persephone, 23 mai 2012 - 05:22 .
Perhaps, but for every customer who voices their being upset there are 10 less vocal, also I'm aware of HTL's statements I was just raising a point.Subguy614 wrote...
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
Maybe not one, but 65k or more?Subguy614 wrote...
I fail to see how stating one will not purchase BW products in the future is in any way a THREAT.
Seems more of a statement of personal intent to which a company who sold over 3 million ME3 copies can say, "So?"
It's like losing a skin cell for them....they won't even notice.
HTL issued a statment saying the "threat" was from someone writing in from the letter tsunami campaign and that it DID NOT represent official HTL policy. HTL also apologized to Mr Priestly.
So it wasn't 65k and even if it were......that's 2.2% of sales to date(approx). You think they would be hurting by "only" selling 2.93 million?
Mr.House wrote...
They did the samething with the first Witcher and that was not ported.matthewmi wrote...
CDProjeckt also took over a year to deliver a new ending. If the game wasn't being ported to the 360 I don't even think they would have invested as much into the newest release. They also own GOG.which is basically a revenue machine that allows them to work on other projects.
Modifié par Persephone, 23 mai 2012 - 05:23 .
Persephone wrote...
Rajalia wrote...
The plain and simple fact is the only true way to show discontent in a product is just as you said... when the next line of products come out whether it be DLC or entirely new games with the Bioware mark... players that are that furious over ME3 should simply stick to their guns and stay away from anything labeled Bioware.
Here is why I wouldn't do that, even if I hated all of ME3:
I will not ban myself from enjoying a game simply because another one did not deliver. Had I done this....I wouldn't buy any games anymore. Bioware has disappointed me the least out of all the dev studios I know. Takes a lot to get me to swear off a dev studio I once loved. Took Bethseda 4 games to kill my love. (Skyrim was the death blow)
Recycled textures,characters, maps?Persephone wrote...
Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...
Back with the glasses eh....if you can't see the recycled well...everything, the lack of polish, and no not just me, but many others.Persephone wrote...
Quality is subjective. Quality according to whom? You?
Of course, glasses. Recycled what? Don't care about the majority of the herd. Majority means nothing. According to the majority "Avatar" is a "better" movie than...uh...all of them. So yeah....not convinced.
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