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[M0keys]

Just thinking... body penetration on such a fundamental level, in every cell, in every aspect..

the psychological damage would be beyond anything I could imagine. just so many people being forcibly violated, feeling disgusting and corrupted and wrong inside...

lots and lots of people killing themselves. you'd only be left with psychopaths or extreme survivors in the end. no in-betweens. maybe a higher death count than the reaper war itself.

food for thought..

[MisterJB]

I take offense to the idea that only psychopaths might appreciate the changes.

[gmboy902]

We've stuck a bunch of now ex-military aliens on a half-destroyed planet, including a large population of cured Krogan who will multiply like rats if one female happens to be there (doubtful).

Bigger worries.

Modifié par gmboy902, 23 mai 2012 - 03:20 .

[M0keys]

did you ignore the part where I said extreme survivors? people willing to survive no matter what anyway because they don't want to die, and they have really strong psyches?

read my post please

[What a Succulent Ass]

I'm honestly more interested in knowing what primitive species with no knowledge of the reaper war would make of it.

Then again, there's probably some degree of brainwashing involved, so who can tell.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 23 mai 2012 - 03:22 .

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Suicide is for weak-minded idiots, period.

[M0keys]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Suicide is for weak-minded idiots, period.

hence you'd probably survive. but lots of people wouldn't. biologically, they'd be utterly morphed.

hormones and chemicals and such thrown so horrifically out of whack, it'd be difficult for the entire organic galaxy not to shift considerably under the stress, restructuring the entire structure of the "animal kingdom," so to speak.

entire classes of people disappearing in days. probably billions simply dying because they don't even understand their own existences anymore, and decaying and withering. or maybe not decaying, because now they're synthetic, so they lose their minds instead..

[MisterJB]

Fine. I take offense to the suggestion that only psychopaths or people who really don't want to die would appreciate the changes.

There is a high probrablity these changes are actually positive and bring about many benefits that only Purity First activists could be against. Sure, some people will kill themselves but a death toll surpassing that of the Reaper War? Very, very unlikely.

[M0keys]

MisterJB wrote...

Fine. I take offense to the suggestion that only psychopaths or people who really don't want to die would appreciate the changes.

There is a high probrablity these changes are actually positive and bring about many benefits that only Purity First activists could be against. Sure, some people will kill themselves but a death toll surpassing that of the Reaper War? Very, very unlikely.

I'd like to hear your version of the positives

[Hoogies123]

MisterJB wrote...

Fine. I take offense to the suggestion that only psychopaths or people who really don't want to die would appreciate the changes.

There is a high probrablity these changes are actually positive and bring about many benefits that only Purity First activists could be against. Sure, some people will kill themselves but a death toll surpassing that of the Reaper War? Very, very unlikely.

If this is what you take offense to then don't ever watch this thing called "the news".

[dunre646]

all i know is synthesis can't be canon

[MisterJB]

M0keys wrote...
I'd like to hear your version of the positives

Reaper technologies has been known to bring about many physical benefits at the expense of the subject's mind. Just look at Paul Grayson, Saren, Cerberus troops, Husks, etc. 
By using Reaper code to achieve true sentience, the geth have proven that it is possible to use Reaper technology safely.
As such, it is not out of question that Synthesis can grant the people of the galaxy the physical benefits enjoyed by those with Reaper technology while still keeping their minds intact.

Modifié par MisterJB, 23 mai 2012 - 03:32 .

[Mr.House]

MisterJB wrote...

M0keys wrote...
I'd like to hear your version of the positives

Reaper technologies has been known to bring about many physical benefits at the expense of the subject's mind. Just look at Paul Grayson, Saren, Cerberus troops, Husks.

I saw nothing possitive aboutt hem, except they where just monsters.

[eddieoctane]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Suicide is for weak-minded idiots, period.

Lots of rather prominent artists would beg to differ with you. Also, that attitude is one of the reasons why people with suicidal thoughts tend not to discuss them and get help with their depression. You're a bad person for thinking like that.

Back on topic: there would likely be mass suicides as a result of the sudden change to basic physiology. Unless some form of alteration was also done to basic thought processes was also done to preclude such actions. In which case, Synthesis is a morally worse action than it was previosuly thought to be. Without the ability to think the forced changes abhorent, one has to wonder what else of the original personalities still remain. If someone's mind is no longer the same as it once was because of your actions, it begins to blur the lines between "ascention" and murder.

[M0keys]

MisterJB wrote...

M0keys wrote...
I'd like to hear your version of the positives

Reaper technologies has been known to bring about many physical benefits at the expense of the subject's mind. Just look at Paul Grayson, Saren, Cerberus troops, Husks, etc. 
By using Reaper code to achieve true sentience, the geth have proven that it is possible to use Reaper technology safely.
As such, it is not out of question that Synthesis can grant the people of the galaxy the physical benefits enjoyed by those with Reaper technology while still keeping their minds intact.

i'm not sure I understand

could you be a little more specific? i mean, how do people go about their daily lives? how do they love? feel compassion? feel about themselves? do they feel pain? do they feel confidence or shame or shyness about themselves anymore?

even the geth and EDI were trending towards their own "humanity"

what does humanity resemble when it no longer resembles itself?

[MisterJB]

Mr.House wrote...
I saw nothing possitive aboutt hem, except they where just monsters.

Paul Grayson had superhuman strenght, reflexes, regeneration. His biotics abilities were powerful enough to vaporize krogans. How cay you say that is negative?
Cerberus Troopers can outfight any Alliance Soldier and Husks could survive with half their heads gone.

What made them monsters was what the Reapers and TIM forced them to do with these abilitties not that they had them.

[George-Kinsill]

I know that Synthesis would not be a pleasant process physically. There is a case whee a ma was accidentally paralyzed and not sedated going into open heart surgery and the process scarred him mentally and psychologically to the point that he committed suicide. I can easily imagine the pain of synthesis surpassing the pain of open heart surgery, so yes, the would most likely be many suicides.

That said, I don't think there would be more deaths from synthesis than the Reapers, possibly though a lot more pain.

[George-Kinsill]

MisterJB wrote...

Mr.House wrote...
I saw nothing possitive aboutt hem, except they where just monsters.

Paul Grayson had superhuman strenght, reflexes, regeneration. His biotics abilities were powerful enough to vaporize krogans. How cay you say that is negative?
Cerberus Troopers can outfight any Alliance Soldier and Husks could survive with half their heads gone.

What made them monsters was what the Reapers and TIM forced them to do with these abilitties not that they had them.

This would be realy bad for the environment in the outbreak of war...a bunch of superhumans duking it out.

[zovoes]

dunre646 wrote...

all i know is synthesis can't be canon

oh but it is my friend, it is. they love it and what it does even if they don't really know what the is themselves.

[Iakus]

M0keys wrote...

could you be a little more specific? i mean, how do people go about their daily lives? how do they love? feel compassion? feel about themselves? do they feel pain? do they feel confidence or shame or shyness about themselves anymore?

even the geth and EDI were trending towards their own "humanity"

what does humanity resemble when it no longer resembles itself?

"Every time I touch something I wonder- just for a second, every time, if what I'm feeling is real"  Adam Jensen, Deus Ex, Human Revolution


Even humanity aside, how do pre spaceflight species like the yahg react to this?  They haven't a clue what's going on with themselves or the animals and plants around them!

[teh DRUMPf!!]

M0keys wrote...

hence you'd probably survive. but lots of people wouldn't. biologically, they'd be utterly morphed.

hormones and chemicals and such thrown so horrifically out of whack, it'd be difficult for the entire organic galaxy not to shift considerably under the stress, restructuring the entire structure of the "animal kingdom," so to speak.

entire classes of people disappearing in days. probably billions simply dying because they don't even understand their own existences anymore, and decaying and withering. or maybe not decaying, because now they're synthetic, so they lose their minds instead.

Or maybe it's no more drastic a change than puberty.

[PsyrenY]

M0keys wrote...

the psychological damage would be beyond anything I could imagine.

I would wager that a great many things are beyond your imagination if this is the only scenario you can think up.

[MisterJB]

George-Kinsill wrote...
This would be realy bad for the environment in the outbreak of war...a bunch of superhumans duking it out.

Worse than a Nuclear War which is possible today, in 2012?

[MisterJB]

M0keys wrote...
i'm not sure I understand

could you be a little more specific? i mean, how do people go about their daily lives? how do they love? feel compassion? feel about themselves? do they feel pain? do they feel confidence or shame or shyness about themselves anymore?

even the geth and EDI were trending towards their own "humanity"

what does humanity resemble when it no longer resembles itself?

Society will adapt to the changes. That is all.
And of course our emotions remains. Just look at EDI and Joker.

[What a Succulent Ass]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Suicide is for weak-minded idiots, period.

What kind of f*cked up bullsh*t am I reading.